K.I.S.S. and Growing within the Law

Great Info

Or you could have just told everyone to just use the FoxFarm system from soil to ferts...LOL......thats what I use it has everything in it from Happy frog to ocean forest to starter mix to the Red bag with the worm castings in it....then the ferts....by Foxfarm.

I also use this stuff called Roots by Aurora...not bad....My Bubba Kush is all gone and people really liked it using the above system.

On Deck is BC Roadkill and Querkle then Genius, folowed by single feminized seed sof Soma's Lavender and CH9..the CH9 I think is by DNA in CALI...??

The Bubba Kus wasn killer smoth smoke though...might get it again because it is so cheap....35.00 for ten pack.

A new add on....

I have recieved a few requests about smaller amounts for mixing soil and so on ... just thought i would add this... Another recipe that can be used.

One thing i remind people, a bale is Compressed and many people buy "loose" bags that are smaller. Such as, a compressed bale(in my recipe) is 3.8 cu/ft. Pro mix has smaller bags of loose soil like 1 cu/ft "Loose". The difference between "loose" and compressed is a 2:1 ratio. 1 cu/ft compressed= 2 cu/ft loose.

Here is a nice recipe for the 1 cu/ft loose bags

1- 1 cu/ft bag of Pro Mix "loose"
3/4c - Bone Meal
1/2c - Blood Meal
1/2c - Kelp Meal
3/8c or 6 TBSP. - Dolomite Lime
2 1/2 TBSP. - Epsom Salt
2 TBSP. - Jamaican Bat Guano
2 TBSP.- Crab Meal
1 TBSP - Plant Success
2 Teaspoons - Rare Earth
1/2 teaspoon - Soluble Seaweed Extract
Big Handful Worm Castings.

Very Good post its now on my fav's list Thanks

Hey Howdy Danielshemp,

I have heard good things about BC Bottled Salt fertilizers.

As far as "leaching" peat to get rid of acids, you can't really do so. Peat is naturally about 3.7-4.5 on the ph scale. Most peat is pre mixed with some lime to bring it up to 5.0-6.5 depending on what peat and mix you buy. So by soaking it and leaching it, you would basically be leaching out any lime that was added to keep it from being so acidic. :-) Now soaking it in high ph water will give the illusion of a less acidic ph, but the peat itself is still acidic as heck and will return to heavy acidity promptly unless a balancer is added.(Lime most commonly)

I have had excellent results. Preparation is important. Allow the peat to soak for a couple days then drain. This leaches the acid from the peat. My nutes are bc grow, bc boost, bc bloom and root 66. I mix the nutes with water in 1 gallon jugs. Each plant gets about 1/2 gallon of the mix every day.

Peat is inexpensive .2 cubic feet will fill appoximately 6, 2 gallon pots for about 3 dollars.

I added a link to another Retail Locator for Fafard Growing Mix Bales.

I recommend staying away from any of their "mixes" that have bark and/mulch in it, but their baled growing mixes are the same as Promix/Sunshine etc.

Here is the Fafard Retail Locator Link:

http://www.fafard.com/?p=7

Thanks for all the input. I am just starting out! I thought maybe a utility florescent light hanging at an angle could control the growth stage but they just tried harder to reach it. So I now have it even across. I have my starters outside in 12 inch pots so that they are used to the outside and I can move them inside at night for more light. So far it's working out ok. As for setting the sequence to grow pot on a regular amount is my next challenge. I have sexed one Female so far! Yeah! I was worried after reading someone had 12 males. I used Miracle Grow potting soil and Miracle Grow Organic for my plants. Then I mix Miracle Grow Fertilizer, The blue stuff! Any cheap advice is welcome. I am such an old hippie that has forgotten the basics! Been over 20 years since I smoked. Sure beats Ultram and other junk. Forgot to tell you I used wolf manure also and chicken droppings. All courtesy of my 8 wolves and 14 chickens. Peace

good post very informative.....WUF WUF

Absolutely.

There are a bunch of very good pre mixed soils to choose from. I have seen several suggestions like Happy frog, Fox Farm Ocean Forest and a few others and what not. :-) They will work just fine. Happy frog has less nutrient in it than the FOx Farm Ocean Forest.

But you can mix your own at half the cost. Just a little back work involved. :-)

Also, it can be difficult to find Fox Farm for many of us.

But just to add to the topic...

Here is a Retail Locator for Fox Farm Soils in Michigan..

http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/distributors/dist_state.php?state=MI

And here is the link for ones in Wisconsin for those that live in the Yooper...

http://foxfarmfertilizer.com/distributors/dist_state.php?state=WI

I like teaching people to mix their own because it conveys and encourages basic understanding of the growing process. Once people start using the mix, they start asking "why" am i putting these ingredients into the soil? What do they do? Why do i put this in? Why do my plants like it? And those type of logical progression questions.

When people buy the Fully pre mixed soils, i feel they are just going to accept what's in the bag is what is in the bag. Just as well be a hot dog and wondering what is in it! hahaha.

Teach a man to fish...

But yes. I totally agree that using the various forms of Fox Farms is an easier way than mine even. Fox Farm Ocean forest tends to need a touch of Lime and Perlite added to it. Also i would simply use some bat guano tea for later feretilizers in the process. I have seen many "regiments" assigned to Ocean Forest. I am sure if you go to icmag.com you can find extensive information for it for those that want to research it. :-)

Pretty cool recipe Mal. I like it but to keep it even simpler folks could use fox farm ocean forest soil and get a good blend of those meals already prepared.

I use a soil pretty close to yours. 2 parts soil mix to 1 part perlite. On strains that go over 60 days I add worm castings and more perlite, 1 part perlite to 1 part castings.

So the mix is 2 parts ocean forest, 2 parts perlite, 1 part worm castings. That's pretty simple.

Good read. Great list / recipe. Sure beats grocery shopping.

The only thing that I would add to the mix instructions, is to "grow" your soil for a good 2 weeks if you have the time. It lets the microbes start to break down your nutes into a more usable product for the plants. I also think if using soil of any kind, microbes are not optional. However, you can get pro-mix with bugs already. Little more expensive, but is worth it. Good recipe.
R

Well i classify myself in the stupid category and in constant need of " For dummies" manuals myself. No offense indeed. It is said in a self deprecating way. :-)

The Keep it simple stupid origin is just because most people try to make growing cannabis harder than it needs to be. Once you know what you are doing it is as simple as can be. This method takes away the guess work for you to a degree and puts you on a stable footing to procede from.

There are tons of pre mixed soil mixes like Fox Farm Ocean Forest that are perfectly wonderful for those that cannot physically mix their own. For those of the lazy and of means group, a cement mixer is the cats meow....woof!

You can use bottled salt fertiizers or go hydro or whatnot. This is just a Nice Little Reference guide.

I put the "Malamute Seal of Approval" on it.

8-}

Malamute, whoever you are ...where ever you are. You are the wise one. That was one of the most informative posts on a simple legal grow that I've ever seen here. I always learn from you and really appreciate your time in sharing that info. Excellent!
May I suggest 2 things that might make it easier for people with kidney probs and lower back issues. For me, all the mixing of all the medium stuff would be a back killer. I used to use SCHULTZ Potting Mix in smaller bags for my wife's flowers and tomatoes and it was great and has no bug larvae in it and retains moisture and aerates well. Well worth the ease for me.

Also, you know, maybe I'm being overly sensitive for all the newbie's out there, but you know that there is a difference between ignorance and stupidity. KISS denotes the latter. "Dummies" adds reinforcement to stupid, in the same post.

Surely your wise enough to know that superiority is not a virtue.
I know how nice and cool you write, i just think maybe you didn't realize that and you help us all a lot, I just thought maybe I should mention that in the spirit of learning for all here. not to single you out - you're the wise one, as I said, and that post was GREAT!

Mike

That's probably why some of the items say "optional"....

;-p

Hahaha.

and clearly explained..great job on this. I am sure it will help out many people just starting out. Running a perpetual grow like you outlined is really the only way to stay within the law.

:-)

I think hydro is fine and dandy for many.

I just find this a very simple procedure for people to get their feet under them.

Kind of a "How to Grow for dummies" first chapter.

I had posted these previously but they get buried and lost. I figured i best put them together and in my Blog. I know how much ya'll love my infrequent blog postings. :-)

Reading this makes me think twice about my hydro setup.....

Great Post!

I love you mal, I am pointing to this thread from my site too, its very good information!

Thanks again, well done!!

EJ

I have all those things Except for the lights only had a 150,250 and a 400 watt HPS. But i always had it in mind to do a grow outdoors using the sun. Well as we all know that becomes a very sticky web . But great post thanks simple is best. And the sun make for the best medicine.By the time im done we all be growing in dog kennels. Had all my ducks in a row ,three plants were in full bloom,four were just starting to flower,three were veging and two cutting . Most of it was G13.Leo came along killed them all .Months of work down the tubes

History: 2009 MR 6, Eff. Apr. 4, 2009.

Rule 333.127 Management of medical marihuana.
Rule 27. (1) A qualifying patient who has been issued and possesses a
registry identification card shall not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or
penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege,