Local Zoning Law Question

[Restorium2]

AND Caregivers ROCK because they help people every day! The State of Michigan makes around $10,000,000 a year from our program. Which is awesome. 

[Restorium2]

Wish we could decide what the money gets spent on though. There's plenty of room for improvement there. 

[GregS]

Maybe it's time we rolled up our sleeves to organize and better promote professional caregiver services. Firing up the compassion clubs again might be the best option to kick that off.

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[keyring86]

Wish we could decide what the money gets spent on though. There's plenty of room for improvement there. 

 

 

What is it currently being spent on?

[GregS]

Greg do you even understand what the disagreement is about?

Most certainly. We are looking at the long game and caregiver/patient interests that our present system provides for. You, otoh, are looking at the issues as business does, and that is to a P&L, which is a short sighted consideration, and are looking to eliminate us as competition. I've been there with companies that demand that I work toward short term objectives, without question the least satisfying thing I've been involved with. I have a penchant for keeping my nose in the wind and my eye on the horizon, much more than my shoulder to the wheel and my nose to the grindstone, though I have excelled at both. At one point I devised a marketing plan to counter some competition that cropped up and affected my business that kicked the competition's ayus, went national, and made made the company a lot of money. This is not so much different.

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[GregS]

What is it currently being spent on?

Some goes to law enforcement, I believe 2 to 3 million dollars a year, some goes to LARA to operate the registry system, and the very largest part goes into the State slush fund, where it is pissed away on schit that has nothing to do with medical cannabis.

[keyring86]

Most certainly. We are looking at the long game and caregiver/patient interests that our present system provides for. You, otoh, are looking at the issues as business does, and that is to a P&L, which is a short sighted consideration, and are looking to eliminate us as competition. I've been there with companies that demand that I work toward short term objectives, without question the least satisfying thing I've been involved with. I have a penchant for keeping my nose in the wind and my eye on the horizon, much more than my shoulder to the wheel and my nose to the grindstone, though I have excelled at both. At one point I devised a marketing plan to counter some competition that cropped up and affected my business that kicked the competition's ayus, went national, and made made the company a lot of money. This is not so much different.

Whoa that's where you are wrong. I have no intentions of eliminating anyone as competition. I came here thinking we were all on the same page. I learned otherwise.

[keyring86]

Whoa that's where you are wrong. I have no intentions of eliminating anyone as competition. I came here thinking we were all on the same page. I learned otherwise.

 

 

Also i don't view other caregivers as a threat. Only big corporations.

[GregS]

Whoa that's where you are wrong. I have no intentions of eliminating anyone as competition. I came here thinking we were all on the same page. I learned otherwise.

Despite your objections, you are jumping into a program that you yourself have stated will eliminate caregiving, and that cannot happen without an intended effort. You can't have it both ways. We will keep on keeping on, and because it is clear that commerce, to include you, are coming after us, I intend to ramp up efforts to again establish and operate to protect our interests.

 

If you think we are on the same page, you had better think again.

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[keyring86]

Despite your objections, you are jumping into a program that you yourself have stated will eliminate caregiving, and that cannot happen without an intended effort. You can't have it both ways. We will keep on keeping on, and because it is clear that commerce, to include you, are coming after us, I intend to ramp up efforts to again establish and operate to protect our interests.

 

If you think we are on the same page, you had better think again.

 

I'm really starting to think people don't read my posts to understand what I'm saying. People only read my posts to argue with me. I kinda already said that I've realized that we are not on the same page.

 

Whoa that's where you are wrong. I have no intentions of eliminating anyone as competition. I came here thinking we were all on the same page. I learned otherwise.

 

Again my only intention is to continue to make a living doing what we love to do. If there is an alternative to becoming a commercial entity I'm all for it.

[GregS]

I know when to walk away.

[+Malamute]

Does anyone have any experience with getting property rezoned. Is that an easy thing to do?

 

By Pat Maurer

Correspondent

A medical marijuana dispensary will not be allowed on the north corner of Clare’s south Industrial Park.

Despite a power point presentation outlining the reasons Clare’s Zoning Board of Appeals should okay a change allowing a provisioning center (marijuana dispensary) on the edge of the Industrial Park, the ZBA said no at their meeting early Monday evening.

Joey P. Kejbou, on behalf of Omar Fakhouri had requested a zoning change from commercial to industrial for property at 820 Industrial Drive at the corner of Fifth Street (Business U.S.10) where they proposed to place the facility.

The change was needed because City ordinance codes would not allow the business within 1,000 feet of a residential district and the five types of marijuana facilities (grow facilities, provisioning centers, processing centers, transportation center and safety compliance centers), although allowed in the South Industrial District, have to be zoned industrial.

“This group also has interest in operating a provisioning center,” Hibl added. “Their highly preferred Clare site for the provisioning center is the commercially-zoned property at 820 Industrial Drive.”

Two variances would have to be issued to place the site there. Hibl’s recommendation to the ZBA said, “It is my very strong recommendation that the variance be denied for the reasons outlined on the Variance and Guidelines 3 questionnaire, thereby denying the requestors benefits and rights that typically would not be expected and not be enjoyed by all other property owners within the City of Clare.” He said there were other sites more appropriate for the facility that were not within 1,000 feet of a residential area.

One resident of the area objected to the establishment of the provisioning center at the location.

In a letter, Cherie Johnson, President of Mid Michigan Industries, expressed her concern as well, saying, “MMI works with adults with a range of disabilities, many of whom are very vulnerable. (MMI is located just south of the site). We are especially concerned about the public perception of providing services to a vulnerable population in such close proximity to a dispensary.”

She said, “While we have enjoyed seeing the growth in the industrial park, we do not see this business as being a positive, image-enhancing addition to that environment.” MMI was the first tenant in the Industrial Park.

Johnson requested that the ZBA deny the request, saying, “We are concerned that his dispensary may affect the degree to which families feel safe having a son or daughter come to our program.”

In his report to the ZBA, Clare City Manager Ken Hibl said, “The City has received multiple calls a queries from investment groups and individuals interested in establishing medical MJ facilities in Clare – the first serious query being that of Mr. Kejbou and Mr. Fakhouri. This particular group has negotiated purchase/lease agreements for at least two industrial properties within the city for a grow facility and processing facility.” He said they will probably present a first site plan application to the City Planning Commission in late May or early June.

The resolution adopted by the ZBA Monday said in part, “The ZBA has determined that granting of the variance would do substantial injustice to all other property owners within this neighborhood and provide the requestors an advantage not available or granted to other property owners or businesses within the City of Clare. the Zoning Board of Appeals hereby denies a use variance and a dimensional variance to allow the establishment of a medical marijuana provisioning center at 820 Industrial Drive and at a distance less than 1,000 feet from a neighboring residential district within the City of Clare, Michigan.”

[shishka]

Does anyone have any experience with getting property rezoned. Is that an easy thing to do?

  

I was thinking more of rezoning a commercially zoned property to agricultural or industrial. There is not much around it but a couple of businesses, grass,  and trees.

  

And I'm more concerned with having the property rezoned so that it meets the states arigultural or industrial requirement.

I would suggest making sure you know what the actual zoning is. I say this because although on my tax bills my property is listed as residential some further digging at the twp offices revealed that I am actually zoned AG. I'm classified as residential for tax purposes but for permitted use I'm AG. Weird but maybe worth looking into.