The Aromamizer Supreme by Steam Crave is awesome so far. Side by side with the Griffin, the Griffin seems to offer bigger draws and more taste at lower temps, but that is just an illusion. Once you turn the watts up the Griffin can't handle "chain vaping", the Aromamizer handles it just fine. With the Aromamizer, you can see the juice level lowering as you draw off it. The Aromamizer is an oil hog like I have never seen! Can't say that with the Griffin. The Aromamizer is the first device to give me a nic buzz with a solution that is only 6mg. It seems to be excellent quality on not leaking. After one full fill of e-cig juice was vaped up, I put in some e-cannabis oil about half full. In my opinion, the Aromamizer blows the doors off the Griffin.

Keeping in mind this is just a first impression. As far as taste, the Griffin may have it beat, but I am not just looking for taste. The design of the Aromamizer is different and it may be the best yet. I will keep using it and see if any problems arise.

The Aromamizer is considered a RDTA (rebuildable drip tank automizer). The supreme does not have that great of flavor, there is a bit of a unique metallic taste. This is just a first impression. Many times after I break in a unit, the taste will get better. Also, this unit did have VG in it and I didn't clean it up before adding in my ecannabis oil.

Aromamizer coil build

Update with the e-ciggs and e-cannabis:

I vaped about 6 or 7 grams of ecannabis oil through the Aromamizer. It works really well. When comparing with the Griffin, it is a matter of personal preference and what works best for you. Using cannabis oil in these rebuildable (RBA) sub-ohm devices is no little thing. For starters, mistakes can be made and you can lose all of your oil. These devices require air control and also fluid control, which means more gaskets. I am not sure if it is a little leakage through the gaskets, or from the vapor being wet and heavy building up, but there is a minor amount of leakage and messiness to these devices. It is not for everyone, especially since you have to build your own coils. I do have to admit these two devices have offered me the most impressive hits and taste when it comes to ecannabis. One thing that needs to be mentioned about the Aromamizer, and potentially any of the 25mm tanks, they are oil guzzlers! The Aromamizer consumes the oil more quickly than any device I have used so far.

Let's not forget about the KangerTech mini. That has now become my all around favorite device when it comes to e-cig use. Especially when it comes to a kit. The KangerTech top fill mini can do it all. You can buy premade coils and you can build your own. That is what I really like about it. I am really getting in to building my own coils, starting to prefer it.

This coil is a 0.85 ohm made with 26-32 clapton wire. This is for the KangerTech mini RBA. This time I didn't overstuff it with cotton for the wick, the Griffin has taught me well on this! I get great vapor hits compared to my old vapes, and less problems. It is nice knowing that issues can be corrected rather easily. Big thumbs up to KangerTech on offering pre-made and self made coil options.

I must admit I am enjoying the Griffin for my e-cig use, especially with the silver Griffin on the stainless steel platinum KangerTech mod. I never thought I would prefer a sub ohm vape. The fact that it can handle 100% VG and offers some of the tastiest hits, is incredible. Hard to put it down sometimes. That is why I had to reduce the nicotine in my juice.

A sad month for e-cig users.

The FDA has pretty much banned all e-cigg products that have been manufactured after February 2007. That pretty much leaves us with nothing, including flavors. It will cost manufacturers $1M to have each flavor approved. It gets much worse. The 499 page document contradicts itself. It says the ban takes place May 10, August, and in 3 years. It is gibberish. When the ban goes into full effect, I don't know, but it could be any day.

This is a result of complete tyranny and treason by our government, based upon how I read the constitution. First, they are not honoring the grandfather law. Any ban pre 2014 would be a violation of the grandfather law. You can't just make up any date you want and choose that to be the grandfather date, that is crazy. Here is where i believe heavy duty treason has been taking place. This is not a US law, this law has been implemented by another governing body, the UN. It is treason for any branch of our government to implement laws from another governing body other than the US.

All I use in my e-cig mix is VG and natural, organic flavorings. I don't see how that can be considered a tobacco product, especially when there is no nicotine in it. This will put hundreds of companies out of business, and thousands of people will lose their jobs.

We are the losers and the victims. Politician and large corporations are the winners. They get all of the money and control.

I don't think I will be testing any more products unless something highly interests me.

Stock up now and get what you need while you can.

Go to CASAA http://casaa.org/and help Support HR2058 - If you are a marijuana user/patient and you like vaporizing your buds with a table top unit, you will want to support HR2058. There may not be any more table top bud vape units in the near future. This is not just about cannabis oil, it is about flowers. This could also effect essential oils as well.

What other UN laws are they going to push on us next? Obliterate freedom of speech?

There is a new study recently released that says vaping is 95% more safe than smoking tobacco. Yet vaping receives the most heavy regulations and tobacco does not.

Well I may be testing out a few more products. We may have a couple more years left. But it won't be the same. We may get lucky and we may be able to get the grandfather date changed to August 2016. The HR2058 will need to be supported to make it possible. The best thing we have in our favor is how crazy this is. No regulations on cigarettes which are known to kill, but mass regulations on e-ciggs. Let's be for real here. That is what we have going for us and it pissed off some congressmen. The best thing we can do is send letters to our local representatives, especially our senators, stating how e-cigs helped get you off tobacco. These e-ciggs have helped me as a caregiver to be able to provide a more medicinal product to my patients when it comes to medical marijuana. Especially people with lung issues. If you are into medical marijuana, we don't want to lose this one. It will be a major setback for our community.

What's Gigi going to do about this? Well I joined CASAA and will be an activist. I must admit, I really like my e-ciggs and my mj used in the same fashion. I have to also admit, I now prefer to sub ohm vape my e-ciggs. I have fallen in love with the way the Griffin hits. The way it mixes so much airflow, it is just different. It takes some time to get accustomed to it, but once you do, it will be preferred.

I am a person that plays it safe, and not always the best decisions. I have made sure I have at least 2 years worth of supplies. It cost me $500, but nicotine and VG, I have 5 years worth and I am guessing on the other stuff. Just don't have enough experience. I mix my own organic flavorings into my nic juice only using VG. I figure $500 more and I will for sure have 5 years worth of everything. I am playing it safe with extra batteries, 200' of coil building wire, and spare glass and gaskets for the tanks.

Due to the FDA BS, I am really glad I just started getting into building my own coils. It cuts the price nearly in half. A 5 year supply of everything is $1000 or less. That comes out to about $200 per year for my habit.

Here is where I bought my 100mg nic mixed with VG which I plan to store in the freezer. https://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/unflavored-nicotine-smoke-juice-e-liquid-liter-sale.html?___store=default&nosto=nosto-page-category1

Here is my favorite battery: http://www.myvaporstore.com/LG-HG2-18650-LiMn-3000mAh-Battery-35-Amp-p/ef6503035.htm

Here is really inexpensive 30' spools of wire. I like working with the 24 gauge because it is thicker, but I use 26 and 28 gauge too. http://www.myvaporstore.com/Kanthal-Resistance-Wire-p/k-rw.htm

Stainless: http://www.myvaporstore.com/Youde-UD-Stainless-Steel-316L-Wire-p/ka-rx.htm

clapton: http://www.myvaporstore.com/Youde-UD-Kanthal-A1-Clapton-Wire-p/k-rw50.htm

The other tools I mentioned above will help you build your own coils. Of course flavorings will be a must along with organic cotton for the coils.

Flavorings may be more expensive at high desert vapes, but they are natural: https://highdesertvapes.com/categories/DIY/DIY-Flavors/NF-Natural/try out a few different flavors until you find something you like.

Much safer, just nicotine, VG, and natural flavorings. No more dangerous than caffeine.

Maybe we should wait a year before panicking, but I can't help it.

I love my vaping and just have to make sure I have at least a 2 year back up. I love all the vapes I have mentioned above, but the Griffin is my favorite, even when it comes to e-cannabis, I don't recommend it for e-cannabis though, because it can easily leak or have a problem if you don't do the wicks just right. To help eliminate most of the problems, I just don't fill it above the automizer, which is about a gram of oil. The more I use it, the less problems I have been having.

An important tip when it comes to the Griffin and other similar units. Use some of your VG, PG, or e-juice and lubricate all of the gaskets. This will help eliminate leaking and other problems.

Here is a little review on a new vaporizer. The Eleaf iStick Pico. I am really liking this device. It gives you the feeling it is smaller than the KangerTech subox nano, but it can handle tanks as large as 23mm. The nano is restricted to 18mm max. The pico is much shorter and is less tippy.

First impression, it is now my favorite vape. I am a fan of the single battery vapes.

In this photo, the iStick has a Griffin tank, which is taller than the kanger tanks shown. The iStick is pictured center.

You can get the iStick as a kit or just the mod. I just bought the mod. I can't speak for the tank if you purchase the kit. I have been leaning more toward tanks that have a RBA deck so I can rebuild my own coils.

Thank you for all the of great reviews and info! It seems like serious vapers like RBAs and RDAs for the flavor. I only vape ecannabis and haven't been adding flavoring lately, just winterized BHO and an equal amount of PEG. It just mixes so beautifully with oil. It's not as fun at PG or VG to vape though. PEG does offer bigger clouds than PG at least. I have to drink water between hits though as it's pretty harsh. I have two sub ohm tanks, several batteries, and a couple of years worth of coils. I should probably buy more if this hideous anti-American b.s. becomes law. 

I thought I would review a couple of products I have tried lately.

The HorizonTech Sub Ohm Arctic Tank.
 

I bought two of these tanks for one obvious reason. The price. At around $14 it was too good to pass up. It got decent reviews on YouTube so I tried it. I give this tank a 2/5 or D rating. My first tank had a strange feature I have not seen in other tanks and that is a hole in the glass so one can refill it without taking it apart. Good idea, but drilling a hole in a piece of glass is great way to start a crack. And crack it did.

Then I tried the normal tank that you see above. It comes with a 0.2 ohm and 0.5 ohm coil. Both work with ecannabis oil, but I prefer 0.5. The tank is very large, obviously to be used by chain vaping nicotine users. For my small batches of ecannbis juice (which is almost pure hash oil) it is less efficient. I only need one or two hits at a time so I don't need a full tank like this. One ml of juice barely makes a dent in this thing. It's just enough to cover the coil. Hash oil is expensive to make so I never feel too comfortable making a big batch of juice if its just going to leak out. And that has happened so many times with this tank that I have to store it wrapped in a paper towel. It hits nicely but I hate leaky tanks. I will not be recommending the Arctic to anyone.

DBmixPRO Professional Herbal Extract Mix

This is a special blend of different PEGs which gets rid of the plastic taste yet still blends very well with hash oil. Unfortunately it still has a harsh throat hit like regular PEG 400. Still, it's step up and is my normal mixing agent for ecigs now. I paid $18 for a 50 ml bottle. It is more expensive than plain PEG or PG but I find that it's worth it. This bottle will last me for years. 

4/5 or a B rating.

One ml of juice barely makes a dent in this thing. It's just enough to cover the coil. Hash oil is expensive to make so I never feel too comfortable making a big batch of juice if its just going to leak out. And that has happened so many times with this tank that I have to store it wrapped in a paper towel. It hits nicely but I hate leaky tanks. I will not be recommending the Arctic to anyone.

In many cases I feel the same with all e-cigg vapes. What I love about the Griffin is it does it all. 1 mL fills it more than half even though it holds 3 or 4 mL due to the casing to the automizer is so large. I don't like using more than 1 or 2 mL at a time when using cannabis oil.

With the Griffin it is only a matter of mastering the coil building and especially the wicking. Start with e-cigg juice then graduate to cannabis oil. When I use e-cigg juice I fill the tank all the way, but with cannabis oil, I use 1 to 2 mL only.

I really appreciate your review on the Arctic, I was curious about it and fully trust your opinion.

Well, it is now 2017 and getting closer to the vaporizer ban. I have about 10 years worth of VG/Nic mix. I still need to get more flavoring (natural), and of course more vaporizers because I don't expect them to last 10 years.

Get your favorite vapes while you can as they may not be available for much longer. This is not just for e-cig vaporizers, this applies to the mj vaporizers as well. I do have high hopes this new law is revoked, but better to be safe than sorry.

My preference is the iStick Pico with the 22mm Geek Vapes Griffin tank. I plan on getting many more rebuild kits for the Griffin.

New arrivals

Hi gg, it's been a while since we connected. Hope you're doing well.  Also, glad to see your still hacking away with the vaporizers, et al! LOL!

I was a little taken back by your comment about a "vaporizer ban."  Would you explain this please?  Given the new MI laws that went into effect on the 20th legalizing extracts, edibles, etc., I'm guessing the "ban" you mention is at the Fed. level?  

I'd also like to ask a couple of questions, if you don't mind, regarding RSO, QWISO, etc.

In one of your recent postings (which I can't locate now), you mentioned that ISO solvent extractions (QWISO?) is now your favorite method for making oil.  Even more so than using 200 proof ethanol?  Did I understand this correctly? What is your rationale for this?

I'm interested in this as I have been approached by a potential new patient who has cancer, accompanied with severe pain.  I've not made any new "oils" in over a year, so as I move forward I'd like to find the best, and hopefully, easiest method.

I continue to experiment with "butters" and tinctures for personal use, but I'm not satisfied with the quality, effects, etc. For my own needs, I'm ready to oils again.

Along with this, I'm looking for a strain recommendation that produces a good oil.  Suggestions?

Hope things are going well for you and that you have a wonderful new year!

Hi gg, it's been a while since we connected. Hope you're doing well.  Also, glad to see your still hacking away with the vaporizers, et al! LOL!

 

I was a little taken back by your comment about a "vaporizer ban."  Would you explain this please?  Given the new MI laws that went into effect on the 20th legalizing extracts, edibles, etc., I'm guessing the "ban" you mention is at the Fed. level?  

Yes, the  FDA wants to ban all electronic cigarette vaporizers that were produced after 2007 I believe. Too attractive to children and all. Here is a little snippet from the FDA http://www.fda.gov/TobaccoProducts/Labeling/ProductsIngredientsComponents/ucm456610.htm

Yes, this is directed at e-cigarettes, but many use the same devices for vaping cannabis.

 

I'd also like to ask a couple of questions, if you don't mind, regarding RSO, QWISO, etc.

 

In one of your recent postings (which I can't locate now), you mentioned that ISO solvent extractions (QWISO?) is now your favorite method for making oil.  Even more so than using 200 proof ethanol?  Did I understand this correctly? What is your rationale for this?

Yes, 99% iso is my favorite because it is easier to produce a quality product. The downside is the 99% iso can be more dangerous when it comes to inhaling the fumes and also the potential to not purge it all out. In reality, 200 proof ethyl is not any more safe. My favorite thing about the ethyl is that it was less fumy than the iso, which made it more safe to work with. Iso is affordable and it makes a really nice looking oil. The only time it is really difficult to work with is when making very large quantities, but that can be managed with extra preparations.

 

I'm interested in this as I have been approached by a potential new patient who has cancer, accompanied with severe pain.  I've not made any new "oils" in over a year, so as I move forward I'd like to find the best, and hopefully, easiest method.

 

I continue to experiment with "butters" and tinctures for personal use, but I'm not satisfied with the quality, effects, etc. For my own needs, I'm ready to oils again.

 

Along with this, I'm looking for a strain recommendation that produces a good oil.  Suggestions?

First, RSO is what your cancer patient will need. I recommend using 99% iso to make it.

Next, as for strains, I have only worked with a few so am probably not the best person to ask. My two favorite that I have worked with are TGA Querkle and Dutch Passion Strawberry Cough. They work well with most solvents. All in all, qurekle is the best for me. Of course, Rick Simpson touts about White Widow, but I cannot vouch for it, I have never used it. I will say this, the more potent the strain, the better for making oil.

 

 

Hope things are going well for you and that you have a wonderful new year!

I did my best to answer your questions, they are in bold type above. I wish you much luck in your endeavors!!  Please keep me posted.

I too hope things are going well for you and wish you a wonderful new year too!

I agree with Grow Goddess that your best buds make the best oil. Strain preference is usually up to personal choice. I have made good oil out of both indicas and sativas. I use winterized BHO but QWET and QWISO work great as well. 

Thanks to GG's suggestion I picked up a Griffin RTA. I love it. There was a slight learning curve in building my own coil but it's totally worth it. I've never experienced such smooth and flavor-filled hits. 

I will also do a quick review of Aspire Nautilus Mini. 

I like this tank because it's small (2ml) and cheap ($14). I've been using it for a few weeks and no leaks so far. It has small airflow holes and this coil doesn't like to burn any hotter than 7 watts or so, but it delivers the medicine effectively. 2ml sized tanks are great for ecannabis oil as I usually make it in small batches. 4 out of 5 stars.