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By Michael Komorn in Stories From the Theater of the War on Drugs 0We have come a long way from 2013, when a parent submitted the first petition to add Autism as a qualifying condition within the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act. It was ultimately rejected due to a lack of any research materials and testimony.
http://komornlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Final_Determination_Autism_436526_7.pdf
In 2014, a Parent tried to submit a new Autism petition with some testimony about physicians treating Autism patients who qualify due to also having epilepsy. LARA rejected this petition because it said it had "issued its final decision" on Autism and would not reconsider new evidence.
Komorn Law stepped in to protect the rights of the petitioner and her family member with Autism. We filed a lawsuit against LARA to force them to hear the new petition with the new testimony and new scientific research. After stalling for months and months in court, LARA gave up the fight and decided to hear the petition.
The Medical Marihuana Review Panel held a public meeting and took public testimony. But the patient advocate panel member noticed that LARA had withheld the scientific research presented with the petition, depriving the review panel from the evidence! The panel postponed the vote on adding Autism until they had a chance to review the information.
ARE YOU SERIOUS? LARA HOLDING THE SCIENCE FROM THE PANEL?
https://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2015/07/michigan_panel_delays_decision.html
Dr. Christian Bogner testified in support of treating Autism with medical marijuana. He described his scientific theory on why Autism has been increasing, restated here on the Dr. Nandi show shortly after he testified in 2015.
After hearing all of these parents begging for any option of a remedy to help their families, the review panel voted to recommend adding Autism as a condition in 2015.
https://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601,7-154-79571_79575_79582-358181--,00.html
Mike Zimmer, the Director of LARA, issued a 4 page opinion on why he was rejecting adding Autism as a qualifying condition to the MMMA. In his opinion he stated multiple reasons why he was rejecting the condition.
The petition used some language describing symptoms as "severe autism" but the petition was only for "autism" not "severe autism" , thus any person with "autism" could qualify for the medical use of marihuana. A lack of clinical based studies and scientific evidence and research on marijuana and Autism. That the MMMA did not require a physician recommending marihuana to be an expert in Autism or marihuana. That the "petition failed to acknowledge the direct impact on children" Some of the forms of delivery of medical marijuana (oils, extracts and edibles) advocated by those appearing at public hearing would not appear to be authorized under the MMMA. Mr. Zimmer was saying that because of a court opinion, he thought that some forms of medical marijuana were illegal. http://komornlaw.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/Final_Determination_Medical_Marihuana_Autism_08272015_554191_7.pdf
We were completely knocked out by this denial and rejection. LARA Director Mike Zimmer delivered a knock out. We dotted the i's and crossed the t's, we played the court game, we forced LARA to hear a new Autism petition with physicians and parents testifying. Autism was fully rejected in 2015.
That did not stop the parents, the families who have to deal and cope and live with Autism every day. This fight for a non-toxic medicine was far from over.
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2015/08/28/agency-rejects-marijuana-autistic-kids/32486185/
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2015/07/18/medical-marijuana-cannabis-autism-seizures-cbd-thc-stoned-prohibition/30360041/
Meanwhile, other petitions have been rejected 2013-2016 , including Anxiety, Parkinson's Disease, Asthma, Insomnia, Manic Depression and Retinitis Pigmentosa. Only Post Traumatic Stress Disorder has been approved as a new condition.
https://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601,7-154-79571_79575_79582-360123--,00.html
Some of the petitions were denied due to there only being 6 panel members attending the public meetings. LARA decided that this was too few and would deny the conditions based on this "quorum" rule, that they themselves created. After some back and forth they finally changed this and made the administrative rules right. LARA did not reevaluate its decisions on the petitions that were rejected for a bogus internal reason however.
Since almost every petition to add a new condition had been defeated, any morale and fighting spirit to continue petitioning for new conditions had petered out. LARA continued to add more and more hoops for petitioners, requiring that any petition to add a condition now MUST HAVE scientific research attached or it would be instantly rejected. That requirement sound reasonable, we all want our medical decisions to be based in science and peer-reviewed medical journals.
However, the absurdity of this research requirement is illustrated by the actions of the National Institute of Health and the National Institute on Drug Abuse, which grants funding for research on medicine.
Back in 2010, the New York Times asked NIDA what kind of research they fund on marijuana.
https://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/19/health/policy/19marijuana.html
The article goes on to detail multiple researchers who have waited YEARS to research marijuana benefits, not even requesting a grant, but self or privately funded research gets delayed.
This delay, roadblock and hoop jumping is typical with research on marijuana, and it continues to this day. Researchers have even been "let go" for trying to research marijuana.
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/weeded-out-how-the-u-of-a-fired-pot-researcher-sue-sisley-after-a-state-senator-complained-6635510
Local Michigan parent and 2015 Autism petitioner Dwight Zahringer, blogging his journey with Autism at the AutismDad website, did not give up on his son. Dwight was ready for another FIGHT, another petition. Something to help his child and all of the other families struggling with the terribly debilitating Autism diagnosis.
The fight was on again!
After losing so badly in 2015, we wanted to make sure we studied our failures as well as the weaknesses of the process of petitioning. Our new strategy going forwards was to study every single comment and complaint that every LARA director and LARA employee and review panel member made on the petitions over the last 5 years. Dwight was very patient waiting for us as we spent a year working on this project. After we learned each and every concern, complaint and comment , we used that information to build a massive resource of peer-reviewed scientific and medical research on marijuana to present to the review panel.
Encouraged by the community and by her own son's transformation from an angry punching autism ball of anxiety into a loving child again, Michigan mom Amie Carter stepped up to be the petitioner on the 2018 petition. We took the original 2015 petition, cleaned it up, added new research from the past 3 years and resubmitted it in January 2018. While there has not been much research for marijuana and autism in the past 3 years, there has been a lot of research on the safety of marijuana and medical marijuana. We submitted many studies on the safety and efficacy of medical marijuana so that the panel could see the difference between the conventional and traditional treatment for autism versus medical marijuana. As all of the research and government reports have shown from years and years of research, marijuana is non-toxic, has no long term physical or mental effects and very few serious side effects. The most common side effects being drowsiness, euphoria, dry mouth and fatigue. This is in vast contrast to the serious, dangerous and sometimes fatal side effects of the prescription drugs that autism patients are routinely prescribed on a daily basis.
http://www.health.state.mn.us/topics/cannabis/about/firstyearreport.html
We waited for LARA to review our petitions. Three months later LARA scheduled two public meetings for our petitions.
The review panel is appointed by the Governor of Michigan and composed of physicians and one non-physician patient advocate. Only one of the physicians on the panel had intimate knowledge and had treated medical marijuana patients. On April 27th 2018, the review panel held a public meeting for public testimony in Lansing.
Due to LARA's stonewalling and discouraging of petitions over the years, almost everyone had given up on the petition process. Less than a dozen people testified in support of the conditions at the April 27th 2018 meeting. No one testified in opposition to the conditions. This is in stark contrast to the many families who showed up in 2015 to testify in support, and went to the panel begging for their help to allow them to use a non toxic medicine for Autism.
The second meeting on May 4th 2018 was for the review panel to vote on the conditions.
The panel at times argued different ideas and points about the law, petitions, the research, the lack of research and their experience in treating patients with the conditions.
After the panel approved of 10 conditions, we had to wait again. The director of LARA has 180 days (July) from when the petitions are submitted (January) to decide to add or reject adding a new qualifying condition to the Michigan Medical Marijuana Act.
Finally the day had come. One day before July 10th 2018, the 180th day limit to decide on the petitions, LARA Director Shelly Edgerton approved the conditions that the medical marijuana review panel had recommended.
Five years of fighting for some relief from self injuring behavior. Five years of fighting for chronic irritability, screaming, punching, anxiety, compulsive tics and behavior and other autism symptoms. Medical Marihuana is just now an OPTION, another tool, another medicine, another thing to TRY. Five years of knock outs, bloody knuckles, bruised egos, black eyes, screaming, begging, pleading, rejection, scorn, hatred and crying. Friendships were forged and bridges were burned, physicians who we thought were there for us turned around and withdrew their support at the drop of a hat. Finally parents can breathe a small sigh of relief. A massive team effort of people, families, physicians, researchers, petitioners and organizers came together at random to work on this.
As the president of the Michigan Medical Marijuana Association, I am proud to have been part of this process. I hope that the families who benefit, and the families who don't benefit share their experiences in trying medical marijuana for autism, so that we can advance science and knowledge of this condition and the cannabis plant. I also call on the governments of the world to encourage and conduct clinical trials of medical marijuana for diseases. To date, the FDA and National Institute of Health and National Institute of Drug Abuse have refused to fund research into medical marijuana.
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This Green Cleaner I am using is basically soybean oil and soap. Obviously, I’m sure it’s a bit more involved than that, but it’s working and I can spray it until harvest without any detrimental effects. We shall see... -
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Yeah. I do not spray flowering plants after they have begun developing buds (3-4 weeks into flower cycle). Best thing you can do at that point is to use some organic, non-toxic treatment on the flowering plants and spray any other plants with Azamax. I don't know of any organic, non-toxic methods, but I would think that the internet would be replete with them. -
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Azamax has always worked for me. If I see mites on one plant I spray ALL my plants. I soak the plants well making sure to spray the underside of the leaves. Repeat in ten days to get rid of new hatchlings. I haven't seen mites for about two years now. (Knock on wood) -
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After reading up about Monterey, it’s seems it is not really made to treat and kill mites. It may still work, I won’t deny that, but there is too much debate about the effectiveness of spinosad on mites. After the initial drenching of Green Cleaner, things definitely look better. The PM especially- the spots that have been repeatedly popping up after being treated with H2o2 do not seem to be returning after Green cleaner drench. The mites look better also, but they are far from totally eradicated. I still found some living upon close inspection. I will trim again and give them another soaking tonight. I realize that it takes several vigilante applications over a week or two to truly be effective. In reading about spider mites, many people were talking about physically squishing them and watching them abandon the plant as it’s treated - I dunno wtf these people are talking about, cuz I can just barely see these things using my 10x loupe. They create a sort of thin cobweb, under and around the leaves. I don’t care what kind of mites they are - it seems they are all treated the same way. I just found those comments confusing. Thanks for everyone’s ongoing help in dealing all this. You guys rock! -
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Well, apparently I have a small spider mite infestation also. This grow has been a frickin nightmare. I will NEVER use a minimalist approach again. I guess I just got lucky in the past. I will be treating them with as many things as possible from the start. Picked up something called Green Cleaner from the hydro store today. It cost just as much as Regalia or Procidic2, but it treats PM and mites and I can get it a few ounces at a time so I don’t have to blow $100 to see if it works. Just soaked them up and down with it at 2oz/gallon. It did seem to literally wash the PM right off the leaves. Although, I’m much more concerned about these stupid mites, which seemed to appear out of nowhere overnight. Gonna reapply at 1oz/gallon in a couple days. I pray this works. And there is no frickin way I’m trashing everything and starting over. -
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What bothered me is that Dr. Meiri should know better and most likely does know better. Nothing on washtenaut at all, other than being the messenger of something that bothers me. I apologize for any personal reference to washtenaut and I'm sure he feels the same about how he also attacked me personally. Check out gene therapy for a cancer cure.
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Unfortunately PM is a full reset, clean up, and get your environment in check so it doesn't happen again type of situation. Do not use eagle 20 unless you do not care for the health of those consuming the cannabis. There are a lot of products that can knock back PM to get your harvest off, at least to the naked eye. Get your cannabis tested if you make it to harvest and you will see what I mean. Sorry this happened to you! Keep your head up and grow on!
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Wow a lot of arguing... and over what? Someone hoping to advance cannabis research in a direction they see fit, regardless of underlying motivation. My post is meant to enlighten, not engage in this useless, head to wall banging, argument. You guys have that bunny muffin covered... and quite well considering this forum is more useful as a positive place for open, helpful and advancing cannabis conversation. I have grown a lot of strains. Most of the strains I have grown are "modern" hybrids, but I have experience with strains of various stages and intentions of breeding. When I pop 5-10 seed packs. Each seed produces a different phenotype of the respective strain. While some phenotypes may be similar they are genetically unique. Furthermore, the effects of these phenotypes are likely to have some variation. Fact #1: There will never be a one size fits all medicinal cannabis product. Anyone who says different is likely influenced by ignorance, greed, or the desire to control. Fact #2: If a person using cannabis tells you that a specific phenotype of a strain helps their condition more than any other they have tried to date, they are telling you the truth. If that same person guarantees it will work for your similar or "identical" condition, that could be misleading. This is because everyone responds differently to cannabis. There are too many variables in the human consuming the cannabis, the way the cannabis is consumed, the way the cannabis is prepared for consumption, the way the cannabis is cultivated, and the genetics of the specific plant that is providing the medicine. Just thought I should clear that up so new comers to medicinal cannabis have the right idea from the get go. Getting back on topic. I don't know the underlying motivation for the research being done by Dr. Meiri. Regardless, assuming the findings from this research remain public it could help others. Cannabis research is in its infancy when you step back and look at it as a big picture. With the slow but steady onset of legalization around the world that research is accelerating. If you decide someones research is going down the wrong rabbit hole, do your own or fund someone who can. Because negativity is a one step forward, two steps back proposition. For the sake of quelling argument to that statement, there is a difference between negativity and healthy debate using reason and evidence. I have yet to read healthy debate in this thread. If you wish to engage in productive debate based on reason and evidence, please take that up with Dr. Meiri as he would be the appropriate channel. If your thinking to yourself well I am not in a position to do so, yeah well exactly my point. : ) Thanks again for sharing this washtenaut. Please don't let the responses to this thread deter you from posting more.
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I make extracts that are infinitely adjustable to meet the needs of unique humans. I use many strains. I use a whole product from each strain and then subtract what a particular patient doesn't want/need in their extract.
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On a more positive note; I just finished my invention that enables a patient to vape cannabis oil without any additives in a way that is better than what is presently available. It should help millions of people all across the world.
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First you have to understand cancer. Then you have to understand cannabis. I'm sorry that you don't understand either very well. It's sad that people will try to take advantage of you and others in desperate situations. Really sad. RSO is not bad. RSO helps people. The only bad part is an arrogant old fool put his name on cannabis oil.
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Neem oil, potassium bicarbonate, h2o2, milk, among a few other things, all seem to be decent treatments for dealing with PM. Frankly, I like the idea of just spraying them once in infancy and being done with it. I have monster cropped some clones and it’s possible they may have inherited some PM. I just want it nipped in the bud now. I do NOT want to battle it throughout growth and maturity. -
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Grow Goddess, I have read your information on Natural decarbolixation with great interest. We are giving it a try but using the ExtractCraft Source to reclaim our alcohol. Would prefer to use zero heat, but do need to reclaim as much as possible. Our method so far: 1. We dry fresh trim (because it's what we can get) on low heat (95F) in our dehydrator till very dry. 2. Place dry trim in mason jars and 200 proof alcohol (from Extractohol) in the freezer for at least 24 hours. 3. Do first wash for 3 minutes, shaking every 30 seconds or so and back into the freezer between shakes. 4. Filter through buchner funnel using grade 3 paper. Only needs one filtering. 5. Pour more 200 proof alcohol into jar of trim for second wash, again for 3-4 minutes. 6. Filter second wash. 7. Pour wash into crucible of 'The Source' and process it on turbo for 2 hours making sure the temp doesn't rise above 105F. 8. Pour what's left of the alcohol and oil from the crucible into a pint mason jar (80-100% full), label and store in box in dark closet. 9. Repeat steps 7 & 8 until all of the wash has been reduced to about half the original volume. We now have 24 almost full pint jars full of the alcohol/oil liquid. After reading through this thread again, I see that we probably should have left room for the co2. How full do you recommend filling the jars and do you recommend opening the jars weekly? It's been some time since you posted on the Natural Decarb process. Are you still liking it as well? Any new suggestions? Thanks! -
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So Resto, some of the people using your one-size-fits-all cannabis extract to treat their cancer died? I am sorry. That is very painful. You may want to consider that a different cannabis extract, one with the exact compounds known to kill that tumor type, could have saved that patient. Just for an exercise, consider the possibility that you don't know all that there is to know about cannabinoids. Of course the oil provider wasn't to blame for these past deaths. The caregiver likely did the best they could with the knowledge available at the time. If however, Dr Meiri's database can now tell us exactly the necessary compounds to kill the cancer, and oil providers ignore that information, then they will share responsibility for subsequent deaths. The database is not there yet but building it will be a fantastic development for cannabis based medicines.
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yea rso is bad, but try not to be an donkey rectum resto.
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Nope. You are the stupid one for using it. I just pointed out how stupid it was. Quit being stupid and your posts will be less stupid. What makes the research below standard and out of date is it's already been done. GW has tried all kinds of cannabinoids on cancer. They have applied all kinds of cannabinoids right on tumors with only small regressions if at all. We need to attack cancers at their source, our genes. Cannabis helps with the cancer symptoms and symptoms of the treatments. To expend resources and energy in the wrong direction makes curing cancer all that much more difficult. And yes Washy, I've lost quite a few people close to me to cancer. Haven't we all by now? People I know have access to all kinds of cannabis treatments. Everything you can think up. And they still die. They die because of their DNA. They die because their basic building blocks have been altered. Cannabis doesn't fix that.
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