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  1. that is the guy who I heard talking about it, and on other grow sites, maybe there was a link to what the bill was before it made it through passage and it got changed during the process?. It is so dumb to go about this and change the law permitting outdoor grows, and then make you put a top on a fence. Why would they list chain link, slat, etc? How do you put a top on a chain link fence? If you are out in the boonies like me, it is stupid and a waste. But if that is what I have to do, I'll do it, love the free sun! It looks like I'm buying another greenhouse. I'm sorry to have started a new topic and didn't find the original thread talking about outdoor grows. I spoke on that link about my experience with the law a few years ago growing outdoors, since the thread was about whether or not grows were legal before hb 4851
  2. Sorry this is so long, but I have experience..2 summers ago I had the experience of helicopter and then 8 cops at the outdoor grow. (some bayanet, some state police,)..They all waited there for 2 hours until I got there. Since my grow was in the middle of nowhere on very remote land no neighbors, the only way anyone would see it would be helicopter, so at least a helicopter can't get me this year, because it isn't stationary. I had grown 51 plants (caregiver for 5, so under limit in numbers) I had about 9 cut down and in my pole barn..they were wet so they didnt charge me with overage...wheew! I had them enclosed a 8' welded wire fencem that i had covered with blackshade cloth so you couldn't see in unless from the air. They told me it wasn't good enough. I had just purchased a greenhouse and it was out there, so they knew I was putting it up. Some told me my fence wasn't secure enough,(i didn't have the fencing stapled down in the ground) some said I needed a top, so in the future to either grow in the greenhouse or in the pole barn. Scared me to death when I got the call from the patient who lives on the land, so on the drive up north, I had called a lawyer and he told me I was going to jail and to insist on a search warrant for the pole barn. I tried to do that, and they weren't too happy,so using my intuition, I gave in and let them in even though it was full of hanging cut plants. They later told me if I would have insisted on the search warrant, they would have charged me. I just noticed that Komorn law addressed a case about usability of wet product. I'm glad I wasn't the test case. Every one of them were arguing on what was legal and what wasn't, so it is all subjective to what each cop thinks is right. I thought I had read they had done away with the roof being counted as a side, but it looks like the language is still there, maybe it was in the original bill and got changed during legislative process. To be sure I was safe last year, I installed my greenhouse INSIDE the fence, locked the greenhouse door, and the fence door, had copies of my legal paperwork attached to the front door. I also covered the greenhouse roof with fence, made sure the fencing was pegged down to the ground and then put plastic over the entire area. I am surprised more people don't do this, because the sun is free! I also bought a washing machine at lowes that was dented for 200 dollars, and I make hash, so haters who think we end up with too much product are wrong. It allows you to be able to really offer your patients more choices with varieties of tinctures, oils, capsules, and edibles.
  3. Now that the legislature has okayed outdoor grows as long as your neighbor cannot see it from their property and it has to be an enclosed fence that doesn't need a top...does anyone know if a 5 foot chain link fence would be ok? they said chain link was ok, but didn't say anything about height, just that you can't dig under it (I will put fencing dug in the soil so animals can't burrow) I have 40 acres and my only neighbor is 20 acres away. My driveway is 1/4 mile in the woods, so very remote. I currently have my greenhouse surrounded by an 8' tall chain link covered in black landscape fabric (used last year because then it needed to be entirely covered), but want to make my fence larger because I have more patients. I found a 5' fence on craigslist for a good deal so I just want to be sure it is ok. Any opinions? Would it be better to put razor wire above it?
  4. To all Ron Paul people remember this, he IS a republican, and even though he calls himself a libertarian, he isn't on women's reproductive rights. I love how this religious zealots go on and on about the constitution but forget about separation between church and state. Vote straight democratic ticket and get these crazies out of our bodies and lives.
  5. I signed up on your website, but it doesn't have a date for your canna market. I'm interested too
  6. They all are pretty fast. I hate stuff that takes forever. For starters, I would recommend white berry, as it is a short strain that is easy to grow, resists pests, finishes in approx 55 days. It depends on your grow room. Height/width, etc. white berry is short & bushy, the church & cole train is larger but very bushy and productive, takes 60 to 70 days. og's are tall & thi...

  7. oh so cool im , of course , looking for some fast strains ... i have a tremendous vault of seeds!! alot of bogs gear and resevoir ,ganash, etc....but just starting up and will have 36 plant limit for first round...

  8. I responded to your message, but not sure if it went to you as I'm not too familiar with this site yet. Just let me know if I need to re-send.

  9. HI, Do you know what kind you want and how many? I have cole train, og kush, og kush 18, twilight, the church, white berry available to clone. I use a hydroponic cloner, so I can keep it hydro, or transplant to a soiless mix so you can put it in whatever medium you like. My cloner makes awesome roots to get you started right.

  10. hi fluffy ! will be interested in some clones jan 15th or so when my card kicks in!!!!! pm for info if available

  11. I'm in the tricities. I have og kush, og 18, cole train, the church, white berry in the cloner now with super roots, need to be transplanted. Pm me if you are in the area.
  12. If you haven't found any yet, I have white berry, cole train, twilight, og kush, the church, violator kush. Organic bug free. Guaranteed to be what they say they are, as I started their parents from seed. Tri city area
  13. So these Republicans all lied saying they would create jobs, but all they have done while in office is to bust unions, enact abortion legislation & calling our medical marijuana law "chaos". Now Shuette has gone way too far. He wants the caregiver to have a separate locked facility for EACH PATIENT. He has made a brief allowing prosecutors to bring criminal charges against any caregiver who grows more than 12 plants in one facility. AG: 'Michigan Ought to be a Place Where We're Building Jobs not Pot Shops' permalink -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Back on the campaign trail, Bill Schuette made it clear that he was no fan of Michigan's medical marijuana law. Now that he's the state's attorney general, Schuette is making it clear he'd like to change the way the law is enforced. "It's the wild, wild west," Schuette said Wednesday on WJR-AM 760. "Michigan ought to be a place where we're building jobs not pot shops. We ought to make sure that the law that was approved, that was narrowly designed for those who have a chronic illness or a severe disease, is not exploited by those who want to line their pockets." Of course, advocates are quick to point out Michigan's medical marijuana law, widely approved by voters in 2008, has created created jobs, both at clinics and for hydroponic equipment manufacturers who have tapped a new segment of the economy. Earlier this week, Schuette issued a brief in support of the City of Livonia, which is attempting to dismiss an ACLU-backed challenge to its new ordinance that prohibits any activity violating federal law, including medical marijuana. The lawsuit, filed on behalf of a 61-year-old Birmingham woman with multiple sclerosis whose husband would like to grow medical marijuana in a building he owns in Livonia, contends the ordinance violates Michigan's Medical Marijuana Act, which was widely supported by voters in 2008. In his brief, Schuette suggested that local communities "should not be forced to sanction criminal activity," and he issued a separate adivsory opinion on Tuesday indicating the prosecutors could bring criminal charges against caregivers who grow more than 12 plants in a single, secure facility. "I intervened on behalf of the City of Livonia to permit them to excercise their right to zone and issued an attorney general opinion that the letter of the law that was approved says 12 plants and no more than 12 plants," Schuette told WJR host Frank Beckmann. "My job is to enforce the law." As the Detroit Free Press pointed out, Michigan law actually allows registered caregivers to grow up to 12 plants each for up to five patients. But according to Schuette, caregivers would have to maintain separate, locked facilities for each patient.State lawmakers this week also introduced legislation intended to clarify the Michigan law, in part, by restricting the location of marijuana dispensaries. Schuette, who is backing the legislation, said Wednesday that because Michigan's law does not reference marijuana clinics, he considers them illegal under federal law. "In Livonia and others, the underpinning of those zones banning pot shops and these dispensaries -- law enforcement calls them drug houses -- the foundation for that is federal law that prohibits the sale and distrubution of marijuana as a class one drug." Schuette is clearly taking a hard line on medical marijuana, diving into the debate rather than wade into the morass. As he points out, his job is to enforce the law. The question is whether his interpretation of the law reflects the will of the people who approved it. House Republicans, AG Seek to Clarify Michigan's Marijuana Law permalink -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lansing— The legalities behind Michigan's medical marijuana law would be more clearly defined under an eight-bill legislative package unveiled by House Republicans this morning. Rep. John Walsh, R-Livonia, Michigan Attorney General Bill Schuette, prosecutors and other lawmakers have said new laws are needed to end what they called "chaos" surrounding implementation of the 2008 ballot initiative that legalized the use of marijuana by seriously ill patients. Walsh outlined problems that occurred as communities have struggled with the proliferation of dispensaries in their communities. He said the law has been unevenly enforced by prosecutors, law enforcement and judges. "Confusion reigns," Walsh said. "It's exposing law-abiding citizens to uncertainty, and causing our taxpayers money." Schuette also today issued an opinion on the storage of marijuana plants. Under current law, patients legally can grow up to 12 plants, and caregivers with permits are allowed to grow up to 12 plants for each of five patients. Schuette issued an opinion that caregivers must store plants for each of their five patients in separate locked storage facilities. Following the press conference, Schuette said the opinion is effective immediately, though it will be up to local prosecutors to enforce. The proposed laws would: Require physicians to have a traditional doctor-patient relationship with someone they provide with a medical marijuana prescription. in other words, you can't go to a clinic where the doctor mainly does medical marijuan referrals. That is the excuse Judge Lauderbach used to ban medical marijuana as "unconstitutional" in Midland case. Prohibit patient-to-patient transactions and require growers to keep their plants in enclosed, locked facilities that are accessible only to the registered caregiver or patient. Give law enforcement officials access to the medical marijuana patient registry during the course of their official duties. Clarify zoning guidelines for local municipalities classifying dispensaries within their boundaries. Walsh said Republicans will spend the summer researching medical marijuana issues and will convene hearings in the fall, when he said the legislation will be passed.
  14. You can definitely get ductless a/c cheaper than $6000. I got a 24,000 btu inverter model for $1000.00 and it had a 17 seer rating (very energy efficient). Do a search for mini split Or ductless air conditioner. You want the inverter style that works in low ambient temps. (so when it is cold outside, it still works) That generally means a seer rating of 16 or more. You also get tax credits for those too. If you are going to pay $6,000 and want true ease of installation and removal, go for the excelair stealth plug and play model. It is 5 ton, and you can install yourself. You can also install u/v light inside. If you have a hydro store, they will order you one and give you at least 20% off http://www.bghydro.com/BGH/ItemMatrix.asp?GroupCode=AOACUS&MatrixType=2&selelement1=undefined&selelement2=undefined&selelement3=undefined&selelement4=undefined&selelement5=undefined BUT, I would forget all of that if you really are looking for a warehouse situation. If you find a 3 phase building, you can get industrial units really cheap on craigs list or ebay. I got an industrial water cooled a/c for $200
  15. please send info to tricitycaregiver@gmail.com Thanks
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