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Posts posted by Restorium2

  1. 12 minutes ago, garoldining said:

    For me CBD offers help and better than drugs that have horrible affects of liver or stomach issues from prescriptions. 

    If you actually get some CBD in what you bought it has potential. To isolate CBD is very difficult AND EXPENSIVE to accomplish. I suppose the CBD junk you can buy off the open market is much better than other drugs because even if it has nothing in it it's way better than poison. If a placebo helps you to get off the poison then that is a great thing. I have seen some very sketchy stuff sold as CBD. 

  2. 6 hours ago, Leaphie said:

    Thanks for the reply. At max capacity I'm planning on 36 1000w HPS flowering lights, 12 600w metal halide veg lights, so: (36x1000w) + (12x600w)=43,200 watts.  4 inline fans at 300w each: 4x 300w=1200w.  18 55w room fans: 18x55w=990w. Total wattage so far: 45,390 watts. 2 10 ton 3 phase AC units: 70,080 watts

    45,390w+70,080w=115,470 watts net

    115,470 watts /240volts=481.125 amps?

    It seems a little excessive! ~Leaphie




    I believe you will have to contact your power company and ask them to install a commercial transformer for your business.

    Then expect the usual forms, fees and inspections that commercial businesses have to abide by. 

    Make sure you are zoned commercial.

    Or you could be less of a hog and run a reasonable amount of LED lights that don't need as much cooling and not worry about the extra attention. 

  3. 31 minutes ago, Spaghetti Farm said:

    Thanks!  Yea we are trying really hard to create the most high quality oils we can.  

    Me too. And it seems we ended up on the same page. Not sure if you made it to being able to use your oil in the electric vape pens yet. After some serious winterization filtering it vapes well in a refillable chamber.

  4. 6 minutes ago, Lime BG said:

    I am new to cloning, I need some help. I see a lot of bucket systems for cloning. My pump and not sure it’s is a sprayer or bubbler there were no instructions in the box. Do u fill the bucket all they way? 

    Go over to youtube.com, do a search and look at some videos to get an idea of what you have. Or post some pics here. 

  5. 11 hours ago, Leaphie said:

    New poster, long-time lurker. 671 amps! That seems like a lot. Can someone check my math? Amps=watts/volts. My total system with lights and ac units will be 

    80,430 watts net. Do I divide this by 120 volts or 240 volts? If I divide by 120 volts I get 671 amps, if I divide by 240 volts I get 335amps. What's the typical volt service in Michigan? If it's 240 volts, are there 2 120 arm power sources? How does this translate to watts? 24,000watts or 48,000 watts in a typical 200amp breaker? Any advice is appreciated! ~Leaphie

    So you are saying you want to run 80 1000 watt bulbs? If you need that much of a grow, which is actually crazy with the regular transformer on your electrical pole, you had better slim down to LED lights.

    Let's start with what lights you are planning to use and how many. 

  6. 1 hour ago, AlexNillson88 said:

    I agree, CBD is really good at treating migraines. However, it is important to know the limits so that treatment does not become addictive

    There's really no 'addiction' per say. It's more like a dependence like with people that like candy. You can say candy is addicting but not like the term means medically. With a little will power anyone can lower their dose or outright abstain from cannabis use. I have done it many times in my life. 

    Things like alcohol, opioids and cigarettes are examples of addictive substances. Cannabis isn't one. 

  7. 1 hour ago, AlexNillson88 said:

    I completely agree. Schizophrenia in itself reminds me of the effect of marijuana, a kind of distance from everything and immersion in your own world, where all feelings are sharpened. If you add more marijuana, the result can be shocking

    That's exactly why everyone needs to carefully select the strain they use, the choices and the effects they create are almost infinite.

    From a lifetime of observation of cannabis use among many individuals, dosage makes a big difference on these pseudo schizophrenia symptoms. Back off on the dosage if you feel anti social. 

  8. 11 hours ago, Mark Coward said:

    I don’t know about Rick’s ego, it’s been years since I read any of his material. Back then he seemed fairly humble, not perfect by any means but his basic message was to grow your own, and make your own meds. Unlike every has been actor and musician who have jumped on the CBD Snake Oil train - each has the only “exclusive” formula. 

    Would you have the nerve to call cannabis oil that has been made for thousands of years Mark Coward Oil like you invented it? Says it all. If that shoe fits you have an ego problem. 

  9. 13 minutes ago, Mark Coward said:

    The misconception IMHO is the myth that marijuana is only useful for symptom relief, primarily smoking the weed. In fact THC can kill many types of cancer cells. But you need significant amounts in edible or suppository form. Rick Simpson’s rule of thumb is to use at least 1lb to make extract, depending on the strain that can produce 64 gm or so of extract. You have to work up to taking at least 1 gm/day. It is also vastly important to eat healthy foods while you are healing.

    THC helps a lot of people with a variety of medical uses.

    However, Rick Simpson wasn't exactly doing anyone any favors other than himself, stroking his own ego. 

    It's too bad that cannabis has so many supposed advocates that only really want to make themselves famous as she quietly helps and saves millions every day. 

    If it has Rick's name on it beware and realize the information behind it has a very weak beginning. 

  10. 5 hours ago, Lelwood said:

    I cannot find the amount that each patient receives for free each month. I've read that everyone is allowed up to 10 ounces per month. I thought I read someplace that each patient gets like 1 or 2 ounces free per month from caregiver.... can someone plz validate this?

    You can't find it because it's not true. It's like all the other BS flying around that's not true. Congratulations on educating yourself. Now if we could get rid of the rest of the BS we could all live happily in a society that doesn't thrive on total BS. Living on BS is not sustainable. 

  11. 12 hours ago, JakekeKe9 said:

    Well, i am not really sure if these sites are legal, however there are tons of sites, where you can buy marijuana, and any kind of marijuana products. I actually used the services of a couple of these sites, and everything went just fine.

    How do you have any idea of what you are getting?

    Here in Michigan most everything you buy now at a real store is tested. 

    Some online scam artist could send you some of that fake marijuana spice stuff. 


  12. Just in case anyone is skeptical about what I wrote in the previous post about your cannabis limit.

    Here's a published quote from the Detroit News where attorney Matt Abel advises:

    Can I grow my own? By law, people can grow up to 12 marijuana plants per household, and if you grow your own, there's no limit to how much marijuana you can possess. The 12 plants should be indoors, or outside in a locked enclosure that is not easily visible from public areas. Growing on rental properties is subject to landlord approval.

  13. 1 minute ago, blackhorse said:

    I will try this drying technique on next harvest. Only a jar or two though.

    After taking out of freezer, will I need to finish drying the buds?

    Or do the buds slow dry while in freezer?

    It depends on how long they are in the freezer.

    They slowly dry and expel their moisture onto the glass. 

    I have had jars come out of the freezer that need very little dry time because they were in there for a year. 

    I take the buds out of the jar right away and lay them on a flat surface. Within a few minutes you will be able to tell how much more dry time they need. Most of the time the buds need some more drying. 

    I found that the best part about this technique is you don't have to worry about mold. 

    Once those pounds are in the freezer it's like you put them in the bank.

    All the small buds get quick dried in a food dehydrator and made into oil. 

    Then you are the grinning person sitting on a cannabis mountain!

    And since you can keep what you grow on your 12 legal plants it's no limit legal hold em. 

    Remember, you can only take 10 ounces out of your house at a time. 


  14. I have my own cryo cure procedure that I have been perfecting for large crops, poundage. 

    First you wet trim off the large leaves and the small leaf tips sticking out of the buds.

    Then you place the buds on screens in a room with approximately 45 % humidity for two days or until you just start to feel the outside of the buds getting dry. 

    Then you place the buds in jars in your freezer.

    You can leave them like that for just about as long as you want to. It's an ultra slow cure. 

    You have to be careful when you take the jars out of cold storage.

    You must remove the buds from the jar immediately after removing them from the freezer so that the moisture collected on the inside of the jar doesn't melt and sog out your buds. 


  15. 19 minutes ago, glued gorilla said:

    Look man, if you do a side by side, you will notice a difference. Like i said, pluck fans first, then dry. I cant explain it all, but i can tell you most people i know have switched to dry trimming because of this difference.

    If you are unwilling to see reality, i Can't help. Do some google searches, look at farms producing great quality, like Jungle Boys. They all dry trim.

    This whole thing was just to get a noob to know there is a difference in quality, and it is worth trying.

    I wet trim! It is easier and still produces quality. I am not knocking your way of doing things, so I don't even understand your need to argue.


    That's where you went off the track, assuming I haven't tried most every way. Like I said, I've been growing since 1979. I've dried every which way. I observe and apply science as I learned in college long ago. 

    People dry trim because they have to, not because they want to. Then they make excuses. 

    I don't need to argue. What you call 'argue' I call research. I gave you the benefit of the doubt and used your 'opinion' in my research. Spent some time with you and your ideas. 

    I suggest you read up on the cryo. 


  16. After decades of trying every kind of curing for cannabis I have been perfecting the Cryo Cure:


    Cryo Cure: perfecting the cannabis drying and curing process

    10th March 2020
    Cryo Cure: perfecting the cannabis drying and curing process

    Cryo Cure CEO Tracee McAfee showcases the benefits of freeze drying in cannabis production.

    For decades, freeze drying has been a long discussed, but never perfected, method for drying cannabis before curing. Supported by respected cannabis cultivation authorities such as Ed Rosenthal, freeze drying has been praised for its ability to preserve flower and reduce moisture content to reduce instances of mould and mildew.

    But freeze drying has been a far from perfected method – until my partner Greg Baughman and I developed the patent pending Cryo Cure.

    Our journey to perfect the cannabis drying and curing process began several years ago after admiring the healthy plants grown by Greg, who is a medical cannabis caregiver in the United States and now serves as President and Head of Cultivation at Cryo Cure. His flower was stunning: the trichomes glistening, the buds vibrant and heavy. I was disheartened to know that they would soon shrink and become unrecognisable shadows of their live plant selves. Was there a way to make it smokable without losing not just its beauty, but the integrity of the buds?

    Drying and curing methods

    This one-off thought opened a whole new world of drying and curing methodologies, in search of the one that contained the most promise to preserve cannabis flower in as close a state to fresh as possible. We bought a copy of Rosenthal’s Marijuana Grower’s Handbook, in which he extolled the virtues of freeze dried cannabis flower, calling it the best he ever had. Reading that book was our ‘eureka moment’. For someone as seasoned as Ed Rosenthal to endorse the freeze drying method, we knew there had to be something worthwhile to explore.

    When we started to research the possibilities, Greg and I found the options to be few, far between, and woefully inadequate to produce consistent results. Many growers were experimenting with freeze drying units built for apple slices, not for the fragile and sensitive cannabis flower. Conditions inside the machines were so harsh the trichomes were snapping off, reducing the overall potency of the flower. The result was too dry, the bud crumbling in my hands. Plus, the machines themselves were not built to hold cannabis flower, squishing the buds in their narrow shelves. We learned the hard way that regular freeze drying units aren’t made for cannabis or hemp. That’s when Greg got to work tinkering with the settings.

    After about a year of experimentation, Greg and I were comfortable enough to provide some of our ‘Cryo Cured’ flower to patients under Greg’s care in our home state of Michigan. The feedback was astonishing. Our patients couldn’t believe what they experienced. Not only were the flowers large, light, and a vivid green, but their medicine left them with an energetic feeling, one that I describe as ‘sparkly’ to any Cryo Cure newcomers.

    The consumption experience was cough-less and non-irritating; one patient with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD) was delighted that their medicine no longer caused bouts of painful coughing.

    There was one big reason for the energetic high: the Cryo Cure process prevents the degradation of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) into cannabinol (CBN), which causes the ‘couchlock’ effect. Greg and I have taken to calling Cryo Cured flower ‘live resin flower’, as our freeze drying process preserves freshness at its peak.

    Cryo Cure

    High THC cannabis and hemp flower dried and cured in a Cryo Cure machine has three hallmark traits:

    • No flower shrinkage. The visual difference is what typically grabs the attention of a grower, processor or consumer for the first time. Cannabis and hemp which has gone through the Cryo Cure process has no flower shrinkage and is vibrant green. The typical bud is at least double the size of flower which has been traditionally dried and cured;
    • No excess moisture. With Cryo Cure, the moisture content of each batch is brought down to between 8% and 12%, with settings that support moisture content as low as 0% to 1%; and
    • Trichome preservation. The potency of Cryo Cure flower is second to none. Lab reports consistently show heightened levels of THC and other cannabinoids and terpenes.

    This is because the Cryo Cure process doesn’t break off the precious trichomes, which house cannabis and hemp’s cannabinoid content. The trichomes stay intact and beautiful.

    Cryo Cure machines do not allow any part of the flower to go to waste. Greg and I made sure to include terpene harvesting as a setting in our machines, so these valuable compounds can be collected, saved, and added back into other products.

    The low moisture settings on Cryo Cure machines increase processing yield as well. Water is the enemy of any kind of hydrocarbon processing such as butane or CO2 extraction. By putting biomass through the Cryo Cure process, the moisture content can make its way to ultra-low points, as low as 1% or an astonishing 0%, resulting in a dramatic increase in extraction yields.

    Perhaps the biggest impact, though, is the time saved: Cryo Cure takes only 24 hours from harvest to completion, shaving an average of three weeks off the production timeline. That means product gets to dispensary shelves in record time. It is a game changer at every stage of the cannabis or hemp supply chain.

    Currently, Cryo Cure offers two models for cannabis or hemp drying and curing: one which accommodates between 30lb and 60lb of material; and a second which accommodates between 600lb and 1,200lb. Each one is equipped with a built-in deep freezer, which freezes the cannabis to temperatures between -20°F and -30°F (approximately -29°C to -34°C).

    As word travels about Cryo Cure, we’ve attracted some impressive endorsements from some of the cannabis industry’s leading figures, including High Times cultivation editor Danny Danko, who was so impressed with Cryo Cured flower that he introduced us to Ed Rosenthal himself. It was a true full circle moment for us to have the man who inspired our journey express support for Cryo Cure. Since then, cannabis advocate Rick Naya has also experienced Cryo Cure and endorsed our process and flower.

    Gathering support from such legendary cannabis growers and advocates was not an easy feat, considering how much they have seen, tried and experienced over their decades in the cannabis space. To earn the respect of three of the cannabis industry’s heaviest hitters, you need to come to the table with something that’s better than great – and we have found that with Cryo Cure.

    Tracee McAfee is the CEO of Cryo Cure, a cannabis drying and curing technology company which utilises the patent pending, freeze drying-based Cryo Cure process for cannabis and hemp flower. To learn more about Cryo Cure, including photos, comparisons, and lab reports for Cryo Cured flower, visit www.cryocure.com.

    Tracee McAfee
    Cryo Cure

  17. 20 hours ago, glued gorilla said:

    When you cut green leaves on a wet bud if you look closely you will see a small amount of wetness around the cut. This contains chlorophyll . This is releasing it into the bud, and is what causes the grassy smell that wet trimmed buds often have in the early stages of drying and curing. A dry trim will keep its smell through the process.

    I am not wasting anymore time here. You are all stuck in your ways, and that is fine. But i am done beating a dead horse. 

    Total unscientific analysis of something you 'think' is true but is easily proven false by science. 

    The only 'ways' I'm stuck in/on is trying to understand others when they disagree with me. 

    I've spent plenty of time trying to unravel your theory.

    I'm willing to spend whatever time it takes, I'm patient. 

    What I'm seeing here from you here in your writing is a desperate attempt at justifying lazy trimming because if you don't cut those close leaves off right away they curl in and are permanently part of the bud. That would not ever be a good thing. 

    I'm not surprised you are tired of trying to defend a bad theory. There's no amount of time and writing that would prove it true and I think you are seeing that,  ducking out before you admit you are wrong.  It's better to be wrong than right in this because since you are wrong you could actually learn something if you listened to the science.

    I find that most disagreements are between people who don't understand each other and/or the science behind things. We are a world divided by science and people ducking out before they learn anything. 

  18. 18 hours ago, glued gorilla said:

    Expains both methods pros and cons.

    Like i said, i choose wet for simplicity, but dry produces a better overall quality. I am not the only one who thinks this.

    I watched the video. It doesn't back up your theory at all. All it says that comes remotely near your theory is that wet trimming would let you dry too quick if you are stupid enough to do that. Who would do that? No one here I bet. Don't do that. The video explains quite well how wet trimming could easily be superior to dry trimming.

  19. 18 hours ago, glued gorilla said:

    The origanal post that concerned trimming, talked about bucking the buds during the wet trim. Leaving on the stalk gives a slower more even dry. The other point is that trimming wet will slightly bruise the weed damaging it. Do a side by side, there is a difference, as said, mostly aroma.

    What I have observed is the longer you wait to trim the more trichs you knock off when you do it. In fact, this year I realized while trimming outdoor buds after a rain while they are extremely wet, my scissors didn't even get sticky. Leave the 'sticky' on the bud! The wetter the better.

    This 'wet bruising' you speak of, never seen it. A bud is much more resilient when it's fresh and wet. As a bud gets drier it becomes more vulnerable to damage. 



  20. 9 hours ago, glued gorilla said:

    I wet trim, and come out with great product. I have also dry trimmed several times, and wheather or not you choose to believe it, dry trim does produce a better product. 

    For me is it worth it for the small improvement? No. But, it is worth noting to a new grower. Aroma is the biggest difference, dry trim will always carry a better aroma, even with a less than perfect cure after dry.

    I think you are not understanding the difference here. The only difference is you take the leaves off sooner with wet trimming.

    Please explain how leaving the leaves on a little longer could help with a cure?

    I'm a science guy and I'm always looking to learn things and the mechanisms behind it.

    You said you want to make sure 'the new grower' gets the right info.

    I'm an old grower since 1979. I've dried cannabis every way you can think of, however, there's always something to learn.  

  21. Exactly. Master different techniques. You can get exactly the same results from wet trimming as dry trimming. It's just easier to take the leaves and leaf tips off before they curl in. The more leaf material gone the better. Science will tell you that. The leaves hold a higher percentage of waxes and sugars that add harshness when smoked and vaped. This can be proven scientifically by careful extraction of different samples and observation of the resultant. 

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