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  1. Simple as 1,2,3 - Will be the new policy for the MMMA forums So much ado has been made at our attempt to provide a reasonable policy for posting on the forums. Much debate has been had amongst the moderator staff and on the forums amongst our members. As is often the case and even more so on the Internet, communication and semantics are critical when trying to develop a consistent but clear policy regarding the Act that can be enforced easily and without issue. The unambiguous policy to date has created some confusion when its intent was just the opposite. Additionally and without merit many of the moderators have been under attack for attempting to enforce a policy that is designed only to protect patients from arrest, prosecution or penalty. The reference to Nazis is offensive and reflects an absolute lack of knowledge of history, common sense, and humanity. The comparison of anything the moderators do on this site to the devastation the Nazis did in world history is blatant ignorance. Let it be stated now, and made very clear that the MMMA does not believe that the proper interpretation of the law would prohibit any of the behavior that may fall into the so called ambiguous zone. The MMMA believes that the Act should be interpreted liberally, and with the sole purpose of protecting patients and caregivers. Further the MMMA does not believe that dispensaries, farmers markets, any registered caregiver transfers to any registered patient or patient to patient transfers are unlawful. In fact the MMMA believes and acknowledges that all of these acts and behaviors are critical and essential for the medical cannabis community to survive and flourish. Why then would the MMMA attempt to create a policy that purports to limit this behavior? The answer is simple, we are not! What are we trying to do then? The MMMA is simply trying to provide advice and direction for patients and caregivers to avoid arrest, and be forced to defend themselves in court. It is that simple. Perhaps as simple as 1, 2, 3. Simple as 1, 2, 3 will be the new policy for the MMMA forums. The behavior of patients and caregivers will be and should be assessed by a ranking of risk and liability scored by Level 1 risk, Level 2 risk, and Level 3 risk. Ask yourself the following question: is there a consistent and unequivocal interpretation of the behavior by patients and caregivers that LEO would agree is lawful? Said another way, would the behavior in question result in an arrest if you asked all LEO statewide? The focus here is not what the MMMA wants; the focus here is not what the MMMA believes the proper interpretation of the act should be. The focus here is not what LEO in your local community says is lawful. Instead the operative question is how do all Leo state wide interpret the act and what do they believe is unlawful behavior? Is there a consistent and unequivocal interpretation of the behavior by patients and caregivers that LEO would agree is lawful? If the answer is yes you are in a Level 1 Risk category and should be protected against arrest, prosecution, or any penalty. All other behavior outside of this definition falls into Level 2 and 3 risk categories. Level 2 and 3 behavior is not unlawful per se, but is behavior that may subject you to a higher risk or liability of arrest. The key here is that the MMMA is not calling this behavior unlawful. The Level 2 and 3 behavior however is behavior which may not without equivocation protect you from arrest, prosecution, or any penalty, although the MMMA believes it should. Those seeking information and guidance from our site need to know that your protections do not include immunity from arrest. Instead your protections will come via the affirmative defense set out in section 8 of the Act. For those that are not aware, the Act is set up with 2 different levels of protection. There is a section 4 protection which is immunity from arrest prosecution or any penalty. Immunity means that after interacting with LEO, you are released without incident, no arrest takes place, medicine, money, and property is not confiscated. You are not handed an "intent to forfeit" document that requires you to post bond for your property. Immunity means you go home; you kiss your significant other on the lips when you get home and you thank the stars above that you are sleeping in your own bed instead of the concrete floor of the local county jail. Then there is a section 8 protection, which is an affirmative defense. These protections are as real and as important as the protections of section 4, but they occur in a completely different environment that is important to distinguish. The section 8 affirmative defense will take place in Court, before a Judge at an evidentiary hearing (first). This game will start with you waking up from the concrete floor of the county jail. It will include eating bologna sandwiches for breakfast, the mustard jar will have something that looks like an infection growing on of the top. It will have been at least 24 hours since you spoke to your family (72 hours is the maximum), and the return to your normal life will not yet begin until you post bond, get your car out of the lot, which will cost you at least $1000. Then you will have approximately 15 days to post bond on the forfeiture case. This amount is usually 10% of the total value of the property seized. Consider the forfeiture matter a second case, one that will put the burden on you to establish that the items sought to be forfeited were acquired through lawfully earned funds. Lawfully earned funds could be a definition that is in controversy in your forfeiture case. After the arraignment in your criminal case, usually done by video while you remain in the jail cell, you will be on bond. The conditions will likely include no use of medical cannabis while on bond. You will have to hire an attorney or rely upon the experience of the local court appointed attorney's knowledge of the MMMA. After many months of your case pending and when you find yourself at your evidentiary hearing for your section 8 defense much ado will be made about your bona fide relationship with your certifying doctor. "Is my doctor willing to come to court?" is a good question to ask yourself when engaging in Level 2 and 3 behaviors. Remember if your doctor is not your treating physician, in some jurisdictions you may fail to establish the first prong of section 8. Although the MMMA believes this is wrong, this is how it has played out in many jurisdictions. Awareness of these distinctions is all that is being sought by the MMMA. The point here is that the different levels of protection between section 4 and section 8 are significant; with the most important factor being one protects you from arrest (Section 4) while the other (Section 8) protects you from conviction in court. The previous policy and guidance provided on the forums for our members has merely embraced a policy to avoid arrest, or Level 1 risk behavior. Moving forward the key factor that will and should be expressed will be to point out and make known what behavior falls into the category that is a Level 1 risk that protects you from arrest, prosecution and any penalty versus what behavior is a Level 2 or 3 risk that offers its protections pursuant to section 8 in court. No one at the MMMA wants to be responsible for advising behavior that results in a patient or caregiver being arrested. Likewise no one at the MMMA believes patients or caregivers should be arrested. But we are living in a time when the Peoples' law has yet to be implemented as it was intended. There remain many different interpretations throughout the state that are not consistent or absolutely clear, to the extent that all LEO would agree. For example see the twisted interpretation of Court of Appeals cases from the "Legal Updates at the Michigan State Police," website regarding medical marihuana.** Please note that the MMMA disagrees with these interpretations, but would be acting neglectful if we did not point out these simple facts for our community. We are not taking responsibility for how LEO currently thinks, we disagree with it and have been and will continue to try to change how they think. In the meantime, we are simply reporting it for the benefit and protection of the medical cannabis community. ** http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSP_Legal_Update_No._99_390580_7.pdf http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSP_Legal_Update_No._96_382986_7.pdf http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSP_Legal_Update_No._91_370314_7.pdf http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSP_Legal_Update_No._89_362839_7.pdf http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSP_Legal_Update_No._78_276204_7.pdf http://www.michigan.gov/documents/msp/MSP_Legal_Update_No._69_259822_7.pdf Soon a day will come when we can all laugh about this but in the interim our community and those that post on the MMMA forums and our membership needs to be made aware and be informed. More importantly they need to act with knowledge, caution, and understanding the various levels of risk associated with the behavior they choose to engage in. With that being said what once was called the unambiguous compliance policy, or behavior that would conform to those principals has been morphed into what will now be described as Level 1 risk behavior. Strict compliance with section 4 of the act is what will be advised to all who care to listen, as the type of behavior that has the lowest degree of risk of arrest. Everything else is Level 2 or 3 risk. That is to say if an encounter with law enforcement occurs the level of risk of being arrested, and being forced to defend yourself in court is higher. Is Level 2 and 3 risk behavior lawful? I personally think so, but who cares what I think. The analysis here is what we know of how LEO sees it collectively throughout the state. It may not be that way in your jurisdiction and it may be that way for a very good reason, but until all LEO acknowledge it as so, that behavior is just simply of higher risk. Please notice that nowhere in any of this analysis is the word unlawful or illegal used we are simply pointing out that there may be a higher risk of a negative outcome. So please understand, that no one at the MMMA wants to impede the success of the medical cannabis community growing and thriving, we just want those that care to listen to understand the difference of how the Act is being interpreted by LEO,the courts, and the impact it is having on patients and caregivers. Knowledge of these distinctions will make for a better understanding of how the lines have been drawn temporarily by the courts and law enforcement, and give our community proper notice of the risks that they may be taking when engaging in the medical use of cannabis. In closing I hope this helps clear up some of the confusion created earlier, and we all look forward to your input and an educated discussion which evolves this community. Thank you for your support and understanding. Michael Komorn President of the MMMA
  2. For those that missed the last one, don't worry there will be another one, Next Date for Clawson is July 30 if you can't make it to Lansing tomorrow. This morning @ 11am get a chance to sit and discuss whatever is on your mind, here about any news or events planned. Sounds like we will have a couple Admins/Staff at todays meeting in Lansing at Gone Wired Cafe @ 11am. Hope to see you there, If you cannot make this event but still have a question or concern, post your reply here and we will have a private or open discussion (your choice) about the subject in order to reach everyone that may not be able to attend this weeks Coffee Hour. Thanks again, can't wait to meet everyone out there in the Lansing area this morning!
  3. Thank you to those that showed up today, I hope that we get more and more participants in these monthly events. These meetings are going to play a large role in getting the word out about the events and news that comes to light and will be a great outlet for information that we as a community need to know about, great way to spread the news. Plus its a good way to get out and enjoy the day and grab a good lunch, breakfast or simply as it says a cup of coffee. This is a way to get to know the community on a personal level. Hope we see more and more join these events, the next one is coming up dates and loctations are located in post #1 See you in Lansing at the Gone Wired Cafe, 2021 E. Michigan Ave on July 2nd @ 110:00am
  4. Thank you to those that showed up today, I hope that we get more and more participants in these monthly events. Its a great way to get out and enjoy the day plus a good lunch, breakfast or simply as it says a cup of coffee. This is a way to get to know the community on a personal level, sometimes words on a screen just can't express the feeling's and emotions that your going through at that moment. These meetings are going to play a large role in getting the word out about the events and news that comes to light and will be a great outlet for information that we as a community need to know about, great way to spread the news. Hope we see more and more join these events, the next one is coming up on July 2nd in Lansing at the Gone Wired Cafe, 2021 E. Michigan Ave. See you There!
  5. Have you heard about the Coffee Hours that the MMMA Staff will be holding each and every month to help the community with questions and answers that they have and also meet and greet the Leaders of the orginization well heres you shot! Here is a list, That explains about the hours and days, as well as the locations where these events will be taking place. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MMMA staff will be holding in-person meetings, with coffee, twice each month. These meetings will be used to discuss planning for projects, events, and anything the staff or membership wishes to talk about. These meetings will take place on the first and last Mondays of each month at 11:00 am. The last Monday of each month (coming up next week), this meeting will be held in Clawson at the National Coney Island, 1331 W. Maple. The first Monday of each month, the meeting will be held in Lansing at the Gone Wired Cafe, 2021 E. Michigan Ave. Hope you can make it! Source: Mmma Monthly Coffee Hour Meetings W/ The Staff
  6. Have you heard about the Coffee Hours that the MMMA Staff will be holding each and every month to help the community with questions and answers that they have and also meet and greet the Leaders of the orginization well heres you shot! Here is a post from a few days ago, it explains about the hours and days, as well as the locations where these events will be taking place. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MMMA staff will be holding in-person meetings, with coffee, twice each month. These meetings will be used to discuss planning for projects, events, and anything the staff or membership wishes to talk about. These meetings will take place on the first and last Mondays of each month at 11:00 am. The last Monday of each month (coming up next week), this meeting will be held in Clawson at the National Coney Island, 1331 W. Maple. The first Monday of each month, the meeting will be held in Lansing at the Gone Wired Cafe, 2021 E. Michigan Ave. Hope you can make it!
  7. Thank you to everyone that made time to listen or call into the show tonight, Congrats to everyone who one a prize given away tonight as well. Good luck on your grow room caller number 3, heck of a setup to add to the room! For those that missed the show and would like to listen, there is still time. Here is the link http://www.blogtalkr...abis-radio-show to replay the show it is also found on the forums home page at anytime. Be sure to tune in each week for the most relevant news in the cannabis community. Planet Green Trees - http://www.blogtalkr...lanetgreentrees Every Thursday night 8-10 pm -- Call In With Questions! 347-326-9626 Follow us (MMMA)on Facebook show some love with a "Like and a Share" https://www.facebook...173969279365817 Tonight's Show Was Sponsored By: MMMA: michiganmedicalmarijuana.org Komorn Law - Atty Michael Komorn (800) 656-3557 Green Thumb Garden Center of Ferndale (248) 439-1851 Thank you to BDT and Third Coast for your donations as well.
  8. Going live at 800 p.m. ONE HOUR COUNTDOWN TILL WERE LIVE ON AIR!! http://www.blogtalkradio.com/planetgreentrees/2012/06/22/episode-100-michigans-premier-medical-cannabis-radio-show http://planetgreentrees.ning.com/ 100 th Episode tonight June 21 Neil Rockind Thomas Lavigne Matt Abel Eric VanDussen Dan Grow John Targowski Adding to the show; Craig Covey Oakland County Commissioner Andy LeCureaux Hazel Park City Council Craig Canterberry of Cpu and Dickson County Compassion Club Tim Beck with a coalition for safer Detroit Robin Schneider of MACC. Tonight is the night to get any and all information that includes the past and present Cannabis news related stories and topics.. Your calls are very important to the show, If you have a question or would like to have your voice heard live on air tonight is the night! There has been alot of changes since this law was put into place there seems to be alot of confusion still and rightfully so. If there are ANY questions or concerns we want to hear about it, This is a time to get that "FREE" Legal advise from some of the most respected Medical Marijuana trial lawyers in the state. Its a jammed packed 2.5 hour show tonight, Lets hope you are part of the discussions on tonight's show your input is invaluable to the community, your words have a voice.. Lets hear them tonight.. Call tonight or listen in, Let your voice be heard and have a chance to win a list of prizes and other giveaways. Call in Number 1(347)326-9626 (dial 1 to get on the air).
  9. Planet Green Trees Episode 100th Episode, The Past Present and Future of the MMMA (the Act). This show is dedicated to a recap of the past three years of the mm program in Michigan. We intend to have the most influential players chime in on their views and analysis from the past three years, the current state of affairs, and what the future holds for our community. This will be a special show, and we plan to cover everything that is medical cannabis. All the Big Hitters chime in and provide their view and analysis for our medical cannabis community. Special guest: Neil Rockind of Rockind PLLC Daniel Grow and John Targowski of Targowski and Grow, More Lawyers pending, and all the other big hitters and legal pundits Eric VanDussen. More to follow.. Big Give Away- 4 foot by 8 bulb t-5 fluorescent fixture for your Veg room, including rope ratchets ($ 260.00). Mention the 100th episode at Green Thumb garden Center and get a 25 discount and a free gift through the end of the month. http://www.blogtalkr...abis-radio-show 100TH EPISODE: SPECIAL 2.5 HOUR SHOW!! Thursday 6/21 12: 8-10:30 p.m. Call in Number 1(347)326-9626 (dial 1 to get on the air). Your host: Attorney Michael Komorn of KomornLaw Regular guests: Chad from the Birmingham Compassion Club, Gersh *Peanut Butter* for Cannabis Cancer Project, Rick Thompson reporting on news events, Jamie Lowell of Third Coast Compassion Center, and recovering patient Mike "Red Dog" McShane, ChrisTiana Starr, Kristine Beebe, Jamie Frickie. Tonight's Show Sponsored By: MMMA: michiganmedicalmarijuana.org Thanks to all the moderators Komorn Law - Atty Michael Komorn (800) 656-3557 Green Thumb Garden Center of Ferndale (248) 439-1851 Source: The Past Present And Future Of The Mmma (the Act).
  10. Planet Green Trees Episode 100 The Past Present and Future of the MMMA (the Act). http://www.blogtalkr...abis-radio-show 100TH EPISODE: SPECIAL 2.5 HOUR SHOW!! Thursday 6 21 12: 8-1030 p.m. Call in Number 1(347)326-9626 (dial 1 to get on the air). Big Give Away- 4 foot by 8 bulb t-5 fluorescent fixture for your Veg room, including rope ratchets ($ 260.00). Mention the 100th episode at Green Thumb garden Center and get a 25 discount and a free gift through the end of the month. All the Big Hitters chime in and provide their view and analysis for our medical cannabis community. Special guest: Neil Rockind of Rockind PLLC Daniel Grow and John Targowski of Targowski and Grow, More Lawyers pending, and all the other big hitters and legal pundits Eric VanDussen. More to follow.. This show is dedicated to a recap of the past three years of the mm program in Michigan. We intend to have the most influential players chime in on their views and analysis from the past three years, the current state of affairs, and what the future holds for our community. This will be a special show, and we plan to cover everything that is medical cannabis. Your host: Attorney Michael Komorn of KomornLaw Regular guests: Chad from the Birmingham Compassion Club, Gersh *Peanut Butter* for Cannabis Cancer Project, Rick Thompson reporting on news events, Jamie Lowell of Third Coast Compassion Center, and recovering patient Mike "Red Dog" McShane, ChrisTiana Starr, Kristine Beebe, Jamie Frickie. Tonight's Show Sponsored By: MMMA: michiganmedicalmarijuana.org Thanks to all the moderators Komorn Law - Atty Michael Komorn (800) 656-3557 Green Thumb Garden Center of Ferndale (248) 439-1851
  11. So you've always wanted to write a book about cannabis? Here's your chance. You're invited to participate in an iBook project intended to change perceptions about marijuana by telling 100 short stories by 100 real people, in a fun and easy-to-read format. Each page will be formatted the same way. The top of the page will have your name, or a title if you prefer. Then there is space for an image, a gallery of images, a video, a Powerpoint presentation, an HTML widget... "The possibilities are endless," said Susan Soares, president of VibeNation MultiMedia, which is sponsoring the project, called Marijuana & Me. "The purpose of the book is to change the perception of what the typical marijuana consumer is like," Soares told Toke of the Town Thursday afternoon. Susan Soares, VibeNation MultiMedia: "The purpose of the book is to change the perception of what the typical marijuana consumer is like" You'll have a maximum of 1,500 characters for your text. VibeNation asks that you please make your marijuana story personal and true; your work may be edited. The top 100 stories will be chosen by popular vote. The book will be available on iTunes, and the 100 authors will collectively own the iBook. With iTunes taking 30 percent of sales and VibeNation taking 10 percent for producing the book, the rest of the profits -- 60 percent -- will be equally split between the 100 authors. You have six weeks to get your story together. The deadline for submissions is July 30, 2012. You can email Soares for more details at susan@vibenationmultimedia.com. http://www.tokeofthe...ybe_in.php#more Source: Marijuana Book Will Feature 100 Authors - Maybe Including You
  12. Become an official member of the MMMA! We invite and encourage all our website subscribers to become official Michigan Medical Marijuana Association members. We are Michigan's largest medical marijuana advocacy group and we need your support to continue providing information and support to Michigan's medical marijuana community. Your membership allows us to address lawmakers, the media and the general public from a position of strength. We are the largest, and one of the few gro...

  13. Dear Medical Cannabis Community, RE: Re: HB 4834, HB 4851, HB 4853, HB 4856 The above referenced bills were adopted by the House Judiciary Committee. Very soon these bills will be on the House floor for further amendments with the final vote requiring a 75% super majority. Operation 26%'s objective is designed as a full scale, grass roots, community response aimed at reaching the Democrats that are split, undecided or ununiformed on this issue and blocking a super majority yes vote....

  14. There's good news and bad news from the Oregon Cannabis Tax Act, OCTA 2012. The good: OCTA has received the endorsement and support of Oregon's largest private sector union, the United Food & Commercial Workers Union Local 555, and their 18,000-plus members. On Thursday, June 14, UFCW Local 555's board of directors voted unanimously to endorse the Oregon Cannabis Tax Act initiative. "We are working with their leadership to mobilize their membership to sign and circulate the petitions," said OCTA 2012 sponsor Paul Stanford "Thank you UFCW Local 555!" "Yesterday, with the UFCW's support, we mailed over 12,000+ letters to Oregon's most progressive voters, to people who have voted in every election for the last four years and that we have their phone number," Stanford said. "We were able to utilize the Oregon Democratic Party voter database to target people most likely to sign and return OCTA petitions. The Weed Blog Paul Stanford, sponsor of OCTA 2012: "Our paid petition team continues to grow and improve" "With UFCW support, a professional phone bank has started to call the 13,500 voters in these 12,000-plus households to make sure they received our petitions and that they sign and mail them back right away," Stanford said. "The phone bank will call each household three times a day over this weekend and early next week, until they reach one of our mailed petition recipients and get their response." From May 25 through June 15, OCTA 2012 gathered 30,000 more signatures, according to Stanford, who said the campaign had now gathered 135,000 total signatures. "We need 87,213 valid registered Oregon voters' signatures to turn in to the Oregon Secretary of State's office by Friday, July 6th to put OCTA on the November ballot," Stanford said. "Our paid petition team continues to grow and improve. A team of four of us went to Salem last week to learn why petitions and signatures are being rejected," Stanford said. "Based upon this knowledge, we are now screening all petitions and all paid petitioners at their weekly turn-in to make sure that everything is properly filled out. "Since a few other initiatives have concluded their petition drive, we have been able to hire other professional petition crews to gather OCTA signatures," Stanford said. "We have new crews of experienced petitioners in several locations throughout Oregon. If you see them, please show them some love." The Bad News: More Than 40% Of Signatures Rejected More than 40 percent of the signatures that OCTA submitted to the Oregon Secretary of State Elections Division have been invalidated, according to Stanford. "Under Oregon law, we met the Secretary of State's early submission rule by having more than the minimum 87,213 signatures needed to qualify for a vote and submitted by their May 25th deadline," Stanford said. "That means that the state started to go through and validate the signatures submitted. Of the 107,992 unverified OCTA signatures, 12,436 were rejected before the verification process, leaving 95,556 unverified signatures, according to Stanford. "The vast majority of these were rejected due to circulator errors, such as not signing the circulator statement at the bottom of the sheet the way they had signed it on their state registration form, or not properly dating it, or from paid petitioners not being properly registered with the state when they were gathering signatures," Stanford said. "We also notified the state of circulator forgeries, and several paid petitioners are being prosecuted for forgery. "From those 95,556 signatures that the Secretary of State said had been properly endorsed by the circulator, they ran a statistical sample of 5,001 signatures to determine the amount of valid signatures we turned in before May 25th," Stanford said. "They determined that 55,869 were found to be valid, for a validity of 58.47 percent." According to Stanford, the state found 25 duplicates in their sample of 5,001 signatures. "Each duplicate found means that 400 signatures are statistically removed from the valid signature count," he said. This removed almost 10,000 signatures from the 95,556 signatures being validated. The state then invalidated 29,687 more signatures because either they were not registered to vote, or they had moved when they signed, or the signature did not match the one on their voter registration card. Almost half of these were invalidated due to the state saying the voter had moved. "We can litigate the state's determination of invalidity," Stanford said. "If the state says that in the end, next month in July, that we fell short, and we know that we should have qualified if not for improperly invalidated voters, such as those ten thousands removed due to circulator error, and/or the ten-plus thousands removed because the state says that the voter had moved, then we will go to court to make sure those signatures are counted. "However, it is much better to just get more signatures and have the state say we qualified by the July 6th deadline with sufficient signatures to have OCTA put on the ballot for a vote this November," Stanford said. "We shall overcome. Restore hemp!" Source: http://www.tokeofthe...is_tax.php#more Source: Oregon's Largest Union Endorses Oregon Cannabis Tax Act
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