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You may post what ever you like. I will post how I like and answer the questions I feel merit response. The question of "are we done here" was to see if you understood how sideways this conversation has gone. I do not believe you do. At this point I feel I have said all I can say. I will not be posting any further. Have a good day.

Carry on as you must. I said nothing about you stopping.

Yes, please continue trolling me. Where as I will continue trying to help people.

My actual question to you: Do you even grow? I ask because most people that love and care for the plant don't act like you. (please don't misrepresent what I post) I already explained your last question. Twice... 1st try: Kevin Jodrey has talked about an open-source method of rejuvenation for plants effected by HLVD. He basically places the plant in a greenhouse in a specific soil composition and allows the health of plant to exceed the replication rate of the viroid there by suppressing it. Although he says his method really just suppresses this viroid as the plant will still test positive for HLVD. He also said in the event of high plant stress that HLVD is likely to take over once again. 2nd try: I clearly stated that Kevin Jodrey said the plant will still carry the viroid, it will just be suppressed by the plants immune system. Also any stressful situation there after would lower plant immunity enough for the viroid to take back over and the plant would start to display symptoms again. 3rd try: Maybe your confusion is because your unaware how pathogens are transmitted? So I'll try to help. Any plant carrying a pathogen, regardless of infection level or display of symptoms, has the potential for transmission to other plants. Which means it does not "save" the plant. I included that info solely as a point of interest in the not yet completed work that is being done to combat this pathogen. This info suggests there may very well be other methods of remediation that have not yet been fully explored and patented. Now, are we done here? I will not allow you to create confusion in my post. The point of this post was to share information with the community in hopes of helping others that may be suffering from this pathogen. Please stop pretending your trying to have an intellectual conversation about this topic. That possibility went out the window with your first reply: P.S. I don't actually care if you grow, what you grow, or how good you grow. Again that was not the point of this thread.

My responses are now highlighted in red, in a point by point manner, so there should be no confusion now.

smh = shaking my head

My responses are now highlighted in red, in a point by point manner, so there will be no confusion.

Yes science is a joke... University and industry studies should be halted at once! Oh wow just smh lol...

I would sell the seeds for cash and use the cash to buy flower from a dispensary or caregiver that you are legally connected to via the MMMP. That's really the only way you can do any of what you had asked without having to worry if your outside the law. I personally think a gift exchange between trusted friends or family is an appropriate situation even if it's not the 25th of December, but like I said before... Or better yet grow your own! It's much more cost effective and the growing can be therapeutic itself. You have the seeds already, why not right?!

I'm planning on growing outdoors this year myself. Basically the growing area needs to have walls, a roof, lock(s), and be secure in a way that people cannot reach in and grab your plants. That could mean something as simple as cattle panels or animal fencing over pvc/metal hoops with a padlocked door (picture an open air "greenhouse cage"), to a fully enclosed greenhouse with locking door. The plants cannot be visible to the public, neighbors, etc. without a visual aid (binoculars, etc.). So if your neighbors can't see your plants without visual aids and they are within the enclosure described above your good to grow! From prop 1- (f) cultivating marihuana plants if the plants are visible from a public place without the use of binoculars, aircraft, or other optical aids or outside of an enclosed area equipped with locks or other functioning security devices that restrict access to the area; From MMMA- (d) "Enclosed, locked facility" means a closet, room, or other comparable, stationary, and fully enclosed area equipped with secured locks or other functioning security devices that permit access only by a registered primary caregiver or registered qualifying patient. Marihuana plants grown outdoors are considered to be in an enclosed, locked facility if they are not visible to the unaided eye from an adjacent property when viewed by an individual at ground level or from a permanent structure and are grown within a stationary structure that is enclosed on all sides, except for the base, by chain-link fencing, wooden slats, or a similar material that prevents access by the general public and that is anchored, attached, or affixed to the ground; located on land that is owned, leased, or rented by either the registered qualifying patient or a person designated through the departmental registration process as the primary caregiver for the registered qualifying patient or patients for whom the marihuana plants are grown; and equipped with functioning locks or other security devices that restrict access to only the registered qualifying patient or the registered primary caregiver who owns, leases, or rents the property on which the structure is located.

LMAO at least your good for a chuckle from time to time...

Some recent news that is answering a lot of questions for people losing heirloom clonal stock to "dudding". https://darkheartnursery.com/news/hop-latent-viroid/ Kevin Jodrey has talked about an open-source method of rejuvenation for plants effected by HLVD. He basically places the plant in a greenhouse in a specific soil composition and allows the health of plant to exceed the replication rate of the viroid there by suppressing it. Although he says his method really just suppresses this viroid as the plant will still test positive for HLVD. He also said in the event of high plant stress that HLVD is likely to take over once again. Very interesting! Finally cannabis is being studied the way other commodity producing trees and horticultural plants are. I cannot wait for the day federal de-scheduling of cannabis would allow open source information to be developed at universities. Unfortunately the cleaning process developed by DHN is patent pending and comes at a premium, making it out of reach for many small farmers and personal growers/preservationists.

I completely disagree.

Just to clarify, did the bud smell like grass/hay when dried? Or did it smell good dried but taste like hay when smoked? Hay or grass smell is usually due to chlorophyll retention. Chlorophyll will break down and be undetectable by the human palate when cannabis is dried properly. Hay or grass smell is one or more of these issues: poor genetics (not all to likely but worth a mention in case your growing shwag bag seed lol, jk), harvested before peak maturity, dried too fast (under 50%RH), dried to slow (over 70%RH), fluctuation in humidity levels in excess of 10% during the dry process, or mold/other contamination. There is many ways to dry a plant but 50-60%RH and 55-60*F for 10-14 days has been the terpene preserving sweet spot in my experience. Light deficiency will not cause a grass smell... Excess light could however evaporate some of the more volatile terpenes and cause a reduction in trichome production along with other issues. None the less, even excess light will not cause a grass smell, just a reduction in quality.

Watch the Ken Stecker PAAM presentation Michael posted on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDIqFeIRHag&t=1752s This will at least give you a glimpse into the enemies mindset and current understanding at the time.