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  1. Now Langing has 40 days to aamend it for there liking ? or pass it to the people
  2. Thank you MMMA for all your hard work i would love to come to Lansing i am not sure if that would help please let me know
  3. Great information Consular Thank you The Picture is Charlie and me
  4. Yes i do Miss Chocolate lots of Fun and rain Lol
  5. DETROIT (WXYZ) - A metro Detroit man who was a pioneer in the medical marijuana business is behind bars, serving more than 5 years, in a case that has some asking if he was the victim of selective prosecution, or if his time behind bars is an appropriate punishment for criminal activity. His family, his attorney and his peers all believe he's being singled out for what others are still getting away with right now. Rudi Gammo was sentenced to 5 1/2 years in prison. Supporters say that's longer than some child molesters, who have gotten out in 3 years or less. "My husband is everything for us, everything. He is the head of the family and he support us on everything no matter what it is," his wife Vida says. "My kids probably going to be 10 years old when he come home. I just want a little bit of mercy. because my kids and me and my whole family needs him, need him back." Vida says Rudi got into the medical marijuana business years ago, working at the job as if it were his duty, using his Green Cross on 8 Mile to help those who were hurting. Despite everything, the family says they don't regret the decision. The Cannabis Legal Group and their principal attorney Barton Morris have stepped up to help. "Rudi is one of the first people to be provided a medical marijuana dispensary in the city of Detroit, that was permitted by the city," Morris says. "It's my goal to see to it that he is released from prison, and his justice has been restored." Here's how Morris breaks down the case: "Here's the thing they were prosecuting him as a continual criminal enterprise. right. because Rudi has all these homes. Allowing people to grow marijuana in buildings that he owned to service the community. All the marijuana is being grown and being sold at the dispensary. He's doing nothing different than what all these other dispensaries are doing." Morris says that's how most medical marijuana business is done in metro Detroit - at least for now. "For the last several years medical marijuana dispensaries in the state of Michigan in the city of Detroit but all over the state have been getting their marijuana from overages from caregivers," Morris says. "So, they're being distributed to dispensaries all over the state. so that's what Rudi was doing so he was just one of the few individuals that was prosecuted for it and eventually jailed for it." So, is this a case of selective prosecution or the perfect punishment for the crime? "Up until now, there has been no uniformity, there's been some people prosecuted it and others not. And people like Rudi Gammo, individuals that are really trying to provide a service that our society wants and needs," Morris says. "Our society has said marijuana should be legal, so we should not be jailing people for it, especially non-violent offenders, that are trying to do within the parameters of this gray area, that we're in the process of right now. These individuals shouldn't be penalized especially when the laws are going to change."
  6. Wow! That was great thank you keep fighting the good fight Sir Komorn Law Rock's
  7. Published 8:36 p.m. ET March 15, 2018 Forty medical marijuana businesses across Michigan got an unpleasant visit Thursday from state officials and the Michigan State Police, ordering them to stop operating. And those visits are just the beginning. Hundreds more are expected to get cease and desist letters in the coming days. The state Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs began the process of shutting down medical marijuana facilities that are operating illegally and haven't submitted applications to the state for a license.. "Any business that didn't apply for a license by Feb. 15 isn't in compliance with the emergency rules that were set up," said David Harns, spokesman for the department. "We did 40 today all throughout the state and there will be hundreds more." Harns wouldn't say what kind of businesses got the cease and desist letters or how the state had identified them, but most were probably dispensaries that have been operating outside of Michigan's medical marijuana laws. The emergency rules "permits an applicant for a state operating license to temporarily operate a proposed marijuana facility under certain conditions," the cease and desist letter read. "In order to comply with this rule, a temporarily operating facility must have applied for a state operating license by February 15. ... A person that does not comply with this rule shall cease and desist operation of a proposed marijuana facility." If the business owner doesn't shut down, he or she risks not being able to get a license at all from the state, the letter said, and could also result in a "referral to local, state, or federal law enforcement and other penalties or sanctions as provided in the MMFLA (Medical Marijuana Facilities Licensing Act) and Emergency Rules." When LARA and the Michigan State Police visited the businesses, they only delivered the cease and desist letter and did not confiscate any products from the businesses, said Harns. Michigan voters passed a medical marijuana law in 2008 that allowed caregivers to grow up to 12 plants for each of five patients who had obtained medical marijuana cards. There are more than 277,000 people who have medical marijuana cards in the state. Some of those caregivers banded together to set up dispensaries, some with the blessing of the communities where they were open for business. Others got busted, including many in Oakland County over the years, by police in towns that were more wary of the medical weed. In 2016, the Legislature decided it needed to get a handle on the medical marijuana business and passed bills to regulate and tax medical marijuana. It's expected to be a lucrative business with revenues exceeding $700 million a year. That could rise even more dramatically if a proposal to legalize marijuana for adult recreational use gets on the November ballot and is passed by voters. The state began accepting applications for licenses in December and is in the process of doing background checks on the business owners. The Medical Marijuana Licensing Board is meeting next Thursday and will begin considering some of the applications. But licenses aren't expected to be handed out until the board's April meeting. The licenses are in five categories: growers, processors, testing facilities, secure transporters and dispensaries. So far 378 applications have come in to pre-qualify for a license, which means that the business owners are going through the state background check, but still need to get approval from a town that has passed an ordinance allowing medical marijuana businesses. Another 117 applications — including 43 growers, 20 processors, 49 dispensaries, 2 secure transporters and 3 testing facilities — have been turned in that include approval from a local community. https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/03/15/michigan-officials-shutter-40-medical-marijuana-businesses-shuttered-michigan-officials-state-police/430422002/
  8. Detroit — Several people were arrested Friday night after police raided an east-side licensed medical marijuana dispensary that was hosting what authorities described as a “flea market” selling a variety of cannabis-laced foods. Police say about 150 customers were at Five & Dime dispensary on the 2000 block of Dwyer when they arrived at about 7 p.m. Many of them were not medical marijuana patients. The business had several tables displaying brownies, cookies, bottled juices and candy all laced with tetrahydrocannabinol, or THC — the chemical compound in marijuana that causes a euphoric high, authorities say. Several other marijuana dispensaries had vendor tables set up selling the items. This was more of a recreational setup,” Lt. Jonathan Parnell said. “It went beyond the medical marijuana guidelines.” Lt. Jonathan Parnell said police made three felony arrests and six misdemeanor arrests of people who were operating the event. Six weapons were recovered from the scene. Authorities also seized 3,500 pounds of marijuana in different forms and several hundred thousand dollars. Buy Photo Authorities also seized 3,500 pounds of marijuana in different forms and several hundred thousand dollars. (Photo: Nicquel Terry / The Detroit News) Parnell said Five & Dime is listed under the state registry as a medical marijuana dispensary, but it was not operating as one Friday night. The event exceeded the five-patient limit for medical marijuana caregivers in Michigan, Parnell said. The dispensary also violated the state’s law by selling recreational marijuana and allowing other dispensaries to sell products inside its facility, he said. The attendees, Parnell said, had been shuttled to the dispensary from the eight annual THC Expo being held at the Roostertail in Detroit this weekend. Parnell said when police arrived, there were people in line to make purchases, customers sampling items and live entertainment from a rapper. “They were conducting business like they were in a marijuana flea market,” Parnell said. https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2018/03/17/detroit-marijuana-shop-bust/33023857/
  9. Wow! Great read Not only do they take your stuff but you will never be the same from the day of being raided it will stay with you and your family for life Thank you Komorn Law
  10. Yup its Joel The System took a toll on Joel like it does to so many of the sick and the ones that take care of them with Cannabis me and that their Bob Knuckle heard took him to Court many time to support him we where their and watched to hole trial Or should i say Dog and pony show in witch it really was I am sorry Joel you had to live your last days of life in a Court room R.I.P
  11. R.I.P Joel https://www.irakaufman.com/mobile/detail.php?id=6863
  12. 20180301_C333484_39_333484.OPN.PDF publicdocs.courts.mi.gov:81/OPINIONS/FINAL/COA/20180301_C333484_39_333484.OPN.PDF
  13. The push to legalize marijuana for adult recreational use got a boost Friday when a deadline for opposition groups to challenge petition signatures passed and no one stepped up. Now it will be up to the Secretary of State's election office to review a 500-signature sample of the 362,102 signatures that were turned in by the Committee to Regulate Marijuana like Alcohol in November, to determine whether there are enough valid signatures from registered voters to qualify for the Nov. 6 general election ballot. Once that review is complete, the state Board of Canvassers will rule on whether voters will see marijuana legalization on the ballot. "It’s great news, it shows the opposition must feel that we have a well-worded proposal, but that doesn’t mean we’re taking anything for granted," said Josh Hovey, spokesman for the pro-legalization group. And just because the group may have won this first battle — it must have 252,523 valid petition signatures to get on the ballot — it mean it has won the war. There are still two groups that have formed to formally oppose the ballot proposal: The Committee to Keep Pot out of Neighborhoods and Schools and the Healthy and Productive Michigan Committee. Neither had asked to challenge the petition signatures by Friday's 5 p.m. deadline, however. The first committee is funded by the Michigan Responsibility Council — an organization of businesses that are interested only in medical, not recreational, marijuana. That group is the only contributor so far to the anti-legalization effort with a $5,000 donation, according to campaign finance reports filed with the Secretary of State. "There are a number of options being looked at" for how the opposition campaign will develop, said Chris DeWitt, spokesman for the committee. "There certainly will be opposition of a robust nature." The other group — Healthy and Productive Michigan — is bankrolled so far by the group Smart Approaches to Marijuana, a Virginia-based group opposed to the legalization of marijuana, which has kicked in $150,000 to the campaign. The group, which was founded in 2013 by former U.S. Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-Rhode Island, and Kevin Sabet, director of the Drug Policy Institute at the University of Florida, has been active in opposing legalization efforts in other states. Scott Greenlee, spokesman for Healthy and Productive Michigan, said his group kept an eye on the petitions as they were being delivered, but figured that the pro-legalization group had gotten enough of a cushion that they would be able to qualify for the ballot.. While millions are expected to be spent on both support and opposition of the proposal if it does make it on the ballot, that level of money hasn't materialized yet. The group pushing the ballot proposal spent most of the $651,736 it had raised so far on paying the National Petition Management team, which collected the signatures for the ballot proposal. And the Committee to Regulate Marijuana like Alcohol is now in debt to the tune of $257,484 owed to consultants, attorneys and fundraisers. "We're focused right now on paying off our campaign debts. But our fundraising continues to go strong. We have a lot of large and small donors across the state and country," Hovey said. "Ideally, we'd like to raise $8 million for the campaign, but we're aiming at between $5 million and $8 million." If it makes the November ballot, the proposal would: Levy a 10% excise tax at the retail level as well as the 6% sales tax. Split the tax revenues with 35% going to K-12 education, 35% to roads, 15% to the communities that allow marijuana businesses in their borders and 15% to counties where marijuana business are located. Allow communities to decide whether they’ll allow marijuana businesses. Restrict possession of marijuana that a person can carry for recreational purposes to 2.5 ounces, but individuals could keep up to 10 ounces in their homes. Follow the same type of licensing model that is being used for medical marijuana, which will provide for five categories of licenses — growers, processors, testers, secure transporters and dispensaries. Voters in eight states have legalized the recreational use of marijuana in recent years, including Colorado, California, Alaska, Maine, Massachusetts, Nevada, Oregon, Washington and the District of Columbia. Canada has legalized marijuana for recreational use and that market is expected to start up sometime this summer. And Vermont's Legislature approved legalization last month.. The state of Arizona defeated a marijuana ballot proposal in 2016. The Board of State Canvassers has three ballot proposal petitions to work through and will do them in the order they were received: repealing the prevailing wage, which requires union-scale wages on public construction jobs; marijuana legalization, and shifting the way district lines are drawn for state and federal offices from the political party in power in the state Legislature to an independent commission. The Board has not set a timeline for when it will consider the three petitions. https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/09/marijuana-legalization-effort-signatures/321236002/
  14. LANSING (WJRT) (2/7/2018) - Dozens of officers participated in the two-week Drug Recognition Expert training in January. Three are from Mid Michigan -- an officer from the Midland Police Department and deputies from the Bay and Saginaw county sheriff's offices. "It makes me feel really good knowing this training could help save a family or help save that person who might put their car in the ditch and injure themselves," said Bay County Sheriff Deputy Ben Latocki. The drivers they worked with are volunteers. Organizers gave each of them something to drink so the officers could conduct real field sobriety tests. They're working to master the test because they'll use it to identify drugged drivers. "If they cannot properly do their (field sobriety tests), then they're not gonna be able to be good (drug recognition exams)," said Michigan State Police Trooper Troy Meder. He has gone through the training and is now a certified instructor. He said around the state there are only 100 drug recognition experts. "We're trying to add to that number because the instances of operating under the influence of drugs are now surpassing those operating while intoxicated by alcohol or liquor instances," he said. Meder said the legalization of medical marijuana and the overwhelming opioid epidemic have been two contributing factors. "In the last 10 years, the (operating while intoxicated) crashes in Michigan have gone down 36 percent, which is good news for us. We've done a good job," he said. "In that same time period, the instances of ... crashes caused by drug impaired drivers has gone up 236 percent -- and that's over a 10-year period." Meder said that high percentage could be not only because more drivers are under the influence of drugs, but also because officers are now looking for it. "I believe a lot of the (operating under the influence of drugs) crashes were going undetected years prior," he said. "So that same crash that results in an OUID arrest, maybe 10 years ago, would've just been a crash." Latocki, the Bay County deputy, said officers were only trained to detect drivers operating under the influence of alcohol before, which allowed some drivers high on drugs to go free. "Somebody could seem that they're all over the road, you see those signs of alcohol and you give 'em a (breath test) and they blow all zeroes," he said. "You know, before it was, they're not drunk, so bye. But now it's like, well wait, let's look at this, we need to dig deeper into this." Latocki wants to make sure he never lets the wrong person go. During the one-leg stand with his driver, he timed her for 30 seconds. "She was at 20 seconds when I was at 30. So, she was at 10 seconds behind. So, you can see her internal clock -- her mindset, her thinking, everything is slowed down," Latocki said. That tells him the driver is under the influence of some type of central nervous system depressant. "It's going to slow everything down. A central nervous system stimulant it's going to speed it up -- methamphetamine, cocaine," he said. "They're at 30 seconds and you've only hit seven seconds on your timer because they're go go go go go because that stimulant is making everything go faster, run faster." Over the two-week training, the officers take a close look at seven categories of drugs: - Depressants, like xanax or valium. - Stimulants, like cocaine or methamphetamine. - Hallucinogens, including LSD or ecstasy. - Synthetic Drugs, such as keatamine and PCP. - Narcotics, like heroin, Vicodin or Oxycontin. - Inhalants, like paint thinners or plastic cement. - Cannabis or marijuana. "A lot of drugs don't have odor to it, especially with your prescription narcotics. It's very difficult to pick up initially," said Saginaw County Sheriff Deputy Charlie Gibson. He has encountered drugged drivers every shift, which is why he wanted to go through the training. "Everyone is in danger when you have a drugged or a drunk driver on the road," he said. "We put in a lot of hours, so hopefully the outcome is great." His driver, Brian Johnson, is grateful the officers are making this proactive effort. "I'm a father, I'm a husband and I take my family's safety really seriously. You know, people are human, they make mistakes, but at the same time, those mistakes shouldn't be made on the highways, jeopardizing someone's life. So I really appreciate what the troopers do," Johnson said. Meder said other drivers have no way of protecting themselves against a driver on drugs. "You can insulate yourself from a drunk driver by staying home in the evenings and on Friday nights and New Years Eve and all that. But, there's no way for you to insulate yourself from the danger of an OUID driver. They are everywhere," he said. The three local officers still have one more step in their drug recognition training before they graduate. http://www.abc12.com/content/news/Mid-Michigan-officers-train-to-identify-drugged-drivers--473219353.html
  15. Its also the part of the MMMA that protects you from driving with any marijuana in your system, or the part of the MMMA that protects you from a city ordinance saying you cant grow in your city, or you have to register in your city, or you have to let the city inspect your grow. Don't get me wrong here i do agree with the above but i've been to a lot of people court case's for those charges and it's still going on
  16. By many indications, this could be the year Michigan voters legalize recreational marijuana. A ballot effort spearheaded by the Coalition to Regulate Marijuana Like Alcohol, or CRMLA, has the backing of the national organization responsible for a number of successful legalization initiatives throughout the country, and the coalition has shown it's capable of raising plenty of money. Things appear to be running right on schedule; last year, CRMLA easily passed the threshold of petition signatures needed to get the issue before voters. As those signatures are being verified, public perception of marijuana is on an upswing, with support for marijuana legalization creeping up toward the 60 percent mark, according to polls conducted over the past couple of years. But as the CRMLA sails toward its goal to end marijuana prohibition, it's being met with some headwinds. Two ballot committees have formed to balk the legalization effort: Healthy and Productive Michigan and the Committee to Keep Pot Out of Neighborhoods and Schools. The former group registered just days after CRMLA's backers submitted 365,000 petition signatures to the state's Board of Canvassers. Though there's little information as yet available on who exactly is behind the anti-pot crusades, marijuana foes traditionally include religious groups, law enforcement, and business entities that don't want to see their profit margins shaved if weed is made readily available. One of the primary opponents of last year's recreational legalization initiative in Arizona, for example, was a pharmaceutical company whose product line includes fentanyl and a form of synthetic marijuana. It was the only state to ever see a legalization effort defeated last year. Nine states plus the District of Columbia have legalized marijuana for recreational use. The committees opposing legalization here in Michigan have yet to raise a significant amount of money. The Committee to Keep Pot Out of Neighborhoods and Schools has received $5,000 from the Michigan Responsibility Council, and Healthy and Productive Michigan has not yet received any donations, according to campaign finance reports reviewed Jan 19. But the latter organization will be one to watch. Its president, Grand Rapids-based political consultant Scott Greenlee, a former aide and campaign worker for anti-pot Attorney General Bill Schuette, has run a number of successful political campaigns throughout the state and has expressed hopes of raising more than $1 million to keep marijuana illegal. If the group is successful in meeting that goal, Michiganders can expect to see a significant amount of anti-marijuana messaging in the months to come. In Arizona, where marijuana legalization was narrowly defeated, the opposition mounted a campaign aiming to convince voters that traffic fatalities and teen marijuana use would rise if pot were legal, pointing to Colorado as an example. But in the great tradition of political campaigns, the claims involved a little bit of gymnastics — deft maneuvering intended to dodge the vault of truth. A closer inspection of the claims levied by the anti-weed campaign backed by big pharma showed them to be misleading or outright inaccurate. Multiple studies have shown that teen marijuana use has not increased in Colorado, and there is nothing linking a recent increase in traffic fatalities in the state to marijuana use — one possible explanation is that the state's population has grown. So we wondered, what sort of spin can Michigan voters expect? In an effort to dispel and add context to the reefer madness that may be in store over the coming months, we interviewed Greenlee on why he thinks marijuana should remain illegal in the state, and have included any evidence that may run contrary to his claims. https://www.metrotimes.com/detroit/the-man-behind-a-campaign-to-derail-marijuana-legalization-in-michigan-makes-his-case/Content?oid=8784712
  17. Medical marijuana shops would have an easier time getting financial backing from a bank or credit union, even through their product is federally illegal, under a bill that passed the Senate, 27-7, this morning. Rep. Klint KESTO's (R-Commerce Twp.) HB 5144 gives accountants and banks immunity for doing the bookkeeping and administrative work of legal marijuana operations. The bill would also allow a grower to sell marijuana to another grower and a producer to sell a product to another producer. Also, a secure truck wouldn't be needed to transport marijuana from one place to another if they are in the same location. In some states, medical marijuana companies have had trouble opening accounts with banks and other financial institutions due to institutional concerns over the federal prohibition. As a result, the companies have come to rely heavily on cash, a development which it is believed would be likely to attract crime. If signed into law, HB 5144 will provide protections against state or local government prosecutions, thus helping to open the door to companies getting financial backing (See "Committee Looks For Ways To Get Cash Out Of Medical Marijuana Businesses," 11/8/17).In addition, the bill also prevents the Medical Marihuana Licensing Board from issuing operating licenses to facilities in local governments that haven't previously allowed these types of businesses to open. Also, local governments would need to pass an ordinance before allowing medical marijuana shops to open in their municipality. A copy of that resolution would need to be given to the Michigan Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs. The seven senators who voted against the bill today were Sens. Ken HORN (R-Frankenmuth), Phil PAVLOV (R-St. Clair), John PROOS (R-St. Joseph), Dave ROBERTSON (R-Grand Blanc), Tory ROCCA (R-Sterling Heights), Tonya SCHUITMAKER (R-Lawton) and Dale ZORN (R-Ida). HB 5144was passed by the House on Nov. 30 with a 95-13 vote. MIRS asked Pavlov why he'd voted against the bill. "Because I don't think this is a good policy decision for Michigan," Pavlov said. MIRS asked if that meant he'd voted "no" because he is opposed to the legalization of marijuana. "That's right," Pavlov said.
  18. A Kansas state lawmaker has reportedly stepped down from two leadership posts after making controversial comments about African-Americans and marijuana. State Rep. Steve Alford (R), who said over the weekend that African-Americans respond “worst” to marijuana because of “their genetics” and “character makeup,” resigned from his posts as the chairman of the House Children and Seniors Committee and vice chairman of a legislative task force on child welfare, The Associated Press reported Tuesday. Alford made the comments at a “Legislative Coffee” session, arguing against a county Democratic official who spoke in favor of legalizing marijuana in the state. Alford argued that Jim Crow-era bans on drugs were put in place to protect citizens from black Americans’ drug use. “What you really need to do is go back in the ’30s, when they outlawed all types of drugs in Kansas and across the United States,” Alford said. “What was the reason why they did that? One of the reasons why, I hate to say it, was that the African-Americans, they were basically users and they basically responded the worst to those drugs just because of their character makeup, their genetics and that.” Alford later apologized for the comments in a statement, according to The Hutchinson News, after facing major backlash from Republicans and Democrats. “I was wrong, I regret my comments and I sincerely apologize to anyone whom I have hurt,” Alford said.
  19. I remember when the MMMA and many of us where inn Lansing protesting when Jones looked out his office window saying the people out side didn't look sick to him
  20. The smell of Rose's make's me sick" to my Stomach and people's BBQ i want clean Air i was at a City meeting a few weeks ago when i heard them say the same thing's when it was my turn to seek i set them strait on all the things i can;t stand to smell
  21. LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Law enforcement agencies across Michigan are using excess state revenue from medical marijuana patient and caregiver fees to boost enforcement efforts. The Detroit News reports a new legislative study found that agencies in more than 50 counties received a combined $1.8 million in medical marijuana enforcement grants from the state last year. The money paid for overtime, house raids, vehicles, surveillance equipment, firearms, stun guns and tactical gear. The efforts come as the state prepares to license dispensaries and pot businesses in certain communities under a new regulatory system. A 2008 medical marijuana law allows patients and caregivers to grow a limited amount of the plant. The law didn’t anticipate the influx of marijuana businesses that surfaced. The state will begin licensing and regulating those operations this year. http://woodtv.com/2018/01/07/michigan-agencies-increase-medical-marijuana-enforcement/
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