How Much To Charge As Caregiver?

[Grow Thread]

All this thread needed was a concise to the point polite answer like this .

plus rep for you!

 

right back at ya

[xxsesimeseedxx]

I can't even buy Mexi swag for that price............

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mDK7SByZrZE

 

Were these guys serious?

[solabeirtan]

Nothing more then 50 dollars an oz. Probably right around 30 dollars an oz.

 

Are You a qualified caregiver? Need another patient?

[solabeirtan]

If you go here you will see the monthly spot market for medicine. http://hightimes.com...e/ht_admin/6513

 

These are not 'Compassionate Prices' !

[LansingAreaCaregiver]

Yea this is like the 300 time this thread or one like it has started. Since the perfect price is different for everyone few agree.

 

Always comes down to socialist vs capitalist........ Its a no win. any price you quote will offend someone.

 

The doctor had it right. its a private thing.

 

One patient might deserve it for nothing, another might have the ability to pay and is able to grow on his own if they put in the effort. Every patient is different. I have no problem charging different rates for services based on ability to pay & the need for the medicine.

 

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Yeah, both extremes of the argument are pretty ridiculous. On the one hand, there are "caregivers" out there doing this for no reason other than the money. They see it as a get rich quick scheme on the backs of patients. On the other, you've got the folks who think because patients need medical marijuana, it should be provided to them at or below cost.

 

This is no different than any other of life's necessities. Just because people NEED places to live, doesn't mean everyone should be given a free house. It also isn't ethical when landlords use the necessity of shelter to take advantage of tenants with exorbitant prices. People NEED to eat food, but that doesn't mean the farmer and grocer should have to take a loss or live in abject poverty...

 

As usual, the "right" answer is determined between the patient and caregiver and likely lives between these two extreme views.

[UrbanFarmer]

Yeah, both extremes of the argument are pretty ridiculous. On the one hand, there are "caregivers" out there doing this for no reason other than the money. They see it as a get rich quick scheme on the backs of patients. On the other, you've got the folks who think because patients need medical marijuana, it should be provided to them at or below cost.

 

This is no different than any other of life's necessities. Just because people NEED places to live, doesn't mean everyone should be given a free house. It also isn't ethical when landlords use the necessity of shelter to take advantage of tenants with exorbitant prices. People NEED to eat food, but that doesn't mean the farmer and grocer should have to take a loss or live in abject poverty...

 

As usual, the "right" answer is determined between the patient and caregiver and likely lives between these two extreme views.

 

[Guest Medicinal Patient]

Can i ask politely why someone asking such an important question as this gets 4 NEGATIVE REPS?

 

Really who is actually this childish to do this ?

 

I agree 100. People are getting negs for no reason at all. I got a neg for hoping Bobs other half Torrey has fully recovered after being hit by a car. Its a genuine concern. I have followed their story since I got here about 16 months ago, and have had the pleasure to see video of them and many others that TJ shared with all of us who can't attend events that are out of reach. I have come to appreciate and care for the people here and their well being. Infact, whats been happening to other members has me darn near manic in rage and confusion and I feel helpless for them and the unnecessary pain they have to endure by law enforcement and our legal system. I am not bitching about my neg rep. I can now see and admit I have gone too far on some things and those can rightfully so hold a grudge. However, seeing it happen to other members like today for giving an informative post to a very relative topic is just bs. I also see newcomers get targeted over questions we all wondered about and have asked at some point in our process and journey. I believe it is affecting others who are hesitant to join and jump on in because they don't want the rejection or a negative experience to what should be a very positive uplifting one.

[S_C]

nice thanxs i was thinking like a free oz a month and then around 300 after that. i have heard a few other caregivers stateing that deal up where i live near traverse city. from what i can tell up here that seems to be the standard deal but wanted some insight from other places in michigan

 

 

I'm a caregiver near TC. I charge patients 200-300oz. I toss in a free 1/4 or 1/8 a month. The free stuff is usually a vary good strain with a minimal yield, kind of a connoisseurs strain.

 

Of all the other CGs I know, 200-350oz is standard.

[solabeirtan]

My Wife is a Cargiver and her Patients get

their first Oz for free ...

If they need another Oz , it's $240 ...

 

 

 

It's impossible for something of value to be free. Doesn't make sense. In Rational terms that would work out to 120/z. Right?

 

Nothing in Life is Free. I guess, till you pay the fee, maybe ...

[Otsego County Caregiver]

You should charge whatever you and your patient think is fair. Period.

 

There are many factors to consider - patient income, type of strain, quantities needed, whole bud or manufactured products, etc. This discussion should take place BEFORE the patient sends in the paperwork designating you as their caregiver, and you should put it all in writing and you should both sign it and stick to it.

 

Just my opinion.

[Terrapin Flyer]

I'm going to jump in here, and risk negative points. Been on forums for a long time, even before a reputation system....have even been a moderator on a large forum. My posts stand for themselves, regardless of points. So I'm going to ask a simple question, hope to get a simple answer (points be damned).

 

I hit my 21 day mark yesterday I also received my papers from the state to fill out for my disability, and I'll be meeting with the SS folks soon. The state f'd up my Medicaid as well, so I'm unemployed, disabled and earnings are minimal, despite my wife's best efforts. We're just getting by, with the help of friends & family.

 

I'm not in a position at this time to spend $100's on my Meds. I could take my addictive meds (Vic & others) for the pain and be a zombie and worthless, but I prefer not to do this. MMJ helps tremendously, and keeps me cognizant.

 

I don't mind paying fair market price for my CG's services, but I just can't right now. Nor do I expect a regular free ride.

 

Is it wrong of me to make my first request to my CG one where I need meds for Free or little to no cost? I don't know the person well and don't want to come across the wrong way.

 

Your folks thoughts?

[drtarzanmd]

It's impossible for something of value to be free. Doesn't make sense. In Rational terms that would work out to 120/z. Right?

 

Nothing in Life is Free. I guess, till you pay the fee, maybe ...

 

It Does Make Sense ....

 

Cause they only need one OZ a Month.

and if they needed a little more ,

We would be willing to give them that at No Charge ...

 

Plus You tell me WHERE You could Buy

Quality Meds off the Street for $120 an Oz ?

[lkline300]

I'm going to jump in here, and risk negative points. Been on forums for a long time, even before a reputation system....have even been a moderator on a large forum. My posts stand for themselves, regardless of points. So I'm going to ask a simple question, hope to get a simple answer (points be damned).

 

I hit my 21 day mark yesterday I also received my papers from the state to fill out for my disability, and I'll be meeting with the SS folks soon. The state f'd up my Medicaid as well, so I'm unemployed, disabled and earnings are minimal, despite my wife's best efforts. We're just getting by, with the help of friends & family.

 

I'm not in a position at this time to spend $100's on my Meds. I could take my addictive meds (Vic & others) for the pain and be a zombie and worthless, but I prefer not to do this. MMJ helps tremendously, and keeps me cognizant.

 

I don't mind paying fair market price for my CG's services, but I just can't right now. Nor do I expect a regular free ride.

 

Is it wrong of me to make my first request to my CG one where I need meds for Free or little to no cost? I don't know the person well and don't want to come across the wrong way.

 

Your folks thoughts?

 

I understand you position, I really do. But i would not. First impressions & all.

 

Maybe just call , tell him your position & ask if you can purchase a couple grams or whatever you can afford. Maybe he or she will offer to help but don't expect it.. ( it will make for a downer if they don't) At least this will give you & your CG the opportunity to talk about your currant economic condition. In all honesty some kind of understanding should have been come to before you guys hooked up.

 

Unless you are dealing with someone you've known for a while I would not ask for favors right off the bat. These relationships are fragile, especially at the beginning.

 

congrats on the 21 days ,

[boroboro]

I'm going to jump in here, and risk negative points. Been on forums for a long time, even before a reputation system....have even been a moderator on a large forum. My posts stand for themselves, regardless of points. So I'm going to ask a simple question, hope to get a simple answer (points be damned).

 

I hit my 21 day mark yesterday I also received my papers from the state to fill out for my disability, and I'll be meeting with the SS folks soon. The state f'd up my Medicaid as well, so I'm unemployed, disabled and earnings are minimal, despite my wife's best efforts. We're just getting by, with the help of friends & family.

 

I'm not in a position at this time to spend $100's on my Meds. I could take my addictive meds (Vic & others) for the pain and be a zombie and worthless, but I prefer not to do this. MMJ helps tremendously, and keeps me cognizant.

 

I don't mind paying fair market price for my CG's services, but I just can't right now. Nor do I expect a regular free ride.

 

Is it wrong of me to make my first request to my CG one where I need meds for Free or little to no cost? I don't know the person well and don't want to come across the wrong way.

 

Your folks thoughts?

 

Thanks for the post, Terrapin, nothing negative about it. I'm a caregiver, and signed up my first patient in a similar way. He's a disabled vet with limited income. I figure that our arrangement should be a good deal for both of us. He gets meds at a very low cost, and I get to come out of the closet and sigh with relief that my little hobby grow is completely legal. Both of us win. Unfortunately that win-win situation seems most obvious with a grower getting his first patient. Now that I have a few patients I'm happy to take on more, but I don't have the same incentive to give the patient such as good deal that I actually lose money on it.

 

It's a sort of catch-22 situation you might be in, but not impossible to get through. On the one hand you may be looking for a new caregiver looking for his first patient, a grower who knows he needs to give the first patient a break in exchange for the patient putting their trust (and plant count) in the caregivers hands. Obviously tough to trust a caregiver without any current legal patients, if you don't know them. But, on the other hand, a caregiver can't prove to you their skills without an established grow, or at least samples from a previous grow.

 

Anyway, somebody is out there with growing skills who would happily sign up as your caregiver, just to be legal. That was me a few months ago, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. I actually had a private conversation with somebody on here this week who might be in a similar situation -- a grower looking for their first patient.

 

 

"Which of you to gain me, tell

will risk uncertain pains of Hell?

I will not forgive you

if you will not take the chance"

[Terrapin Flyer]

"Which of you to gain me, tell

will risk uncertain pains of Hell?

I will not forgive you

if you will not take the chance"

 

The sailor gave at least a try

the soldier being much too wise

strategy was his strength

and not disaster

 

Thank you friend.

[imiubu]

That is known as Mexican drive up service. LOL

I have been waiting to use that video in a joke, and it got me 3 negative reps. No sense of humor around here.

 

 

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXQzpsk-PHw

 

I thought it very funny IJ! I find your posts

informative... and funny also. I have enjoyed

reading your posts and hope one day we

will meet in person

 

The post about the 30-50$ service charge

I took as a joking reply also, though because

this subject gets peoples panties in a bunch

in a quick hurry... maybe they just didn't

appreciate the humor

 

Neg repping is rather childish, esp. when

the subject of the thread is a "touchy" one.

This person asked a legit Q? and was slammed.

Wow, I thought we were a community of

caring folks willing to help others when ever

we could... not to slam them and maybe

drive them away.

Also, W has been a member for a long time

and doesn't post often... why the neg's?

 

Can't we all just get along?

"Free is when you don't have to pay for

nothing or do nothing..." FZ

peace

[imiubu]

If you go here you will see the monthly spot market for medicine. http://hightimes.com...e/ht_admin/6513

 

Thanks HerbRx!

[imiubu]

Are You a qualified caregiver? Need another patient?

 

DITTO!

[imiubu]

The same thing happened to me once and there was someone in that thread who is also in this thread.

 

yep, yep and they are. Humm?

[+itssortalegal10]

Asking this question here is like throwing a match into a gas can...just as a heads up. Price debates tend to get pretty heated. I would argue that the figure above is very much not the norm. A few might be lucky enough to find those kind of prices, but not many.

 

Prices are really all over the place and up to the patient/caregiver. As a ballpark, I've heard many caregivers reference figures from $200-$400 per ounce. Some charge up to $500-$600. Dispensaries that I've visited are charging $50-$60 an eighth. Bottom line, it is whatever can be worked out between the patient and caregiver.

 

Hope that helps

Exactly. The best ting to do as I was told was to meet the person you want to be your patient and get a feel of what they can afford. It is your friend so you already know what he/she can and can't afford. I mean you would be the one putting in all the time and work, so is he paying for the seeds? Helping with electric? You guys just need to talk rather than you just coming up with some price you get off of here. You don't want to screw yourself or your friend...

[GreenMagic]

I don’t understand why there is such a huge argument with price. Whether you like it or not the medical marijuana industry is going to be a HUGE business in Michigan. There is no point in criticizing someone for trying to make a living, and why do many people on this board think that marijuana should be free. That will never happen, so please just stop your whining.

 

If he is your friend charge him 150 an ounce, he's not going to find prices like that anywhere else. Plus if you have the right equipment and skill you’re going to have a lot of extras to sell to other patients out there.

 

Just for the record 225 is what I think is a good price for any strain, because any more than that and you are just being super greedy.

[+420Atheist]

What I find completely fascinating is comparing individuals political ideology with their stance on charging for meds.

[+itssortalegal10]

I don’t understand why there is such a huge argument with price. Whether you like it or not the medical marijuana industry is going to be a HUGE business in Michigan. There is no point in criticizing someone for trying to make a living, and why do many people on this board think that marijuana should be free. That will never happen, so please just stop your whining.

 

If he is your friend charge him 150 an ounce, he's not going to find prices like that anywhere else. Plus if you have the right equipment and skill you’re going to have a lot of extras to sell to other patients out there.

 

Just for the record 225 is what I think is a good price for any strain, because any more than that and you are just being super greedy.

Well I think most of the problem is that a lot of patients can not afford to pay a lot of money for it. See what a lot of caregivers feel is that it is just nice to be able to grow it to begin with (at least I do) and that if there is someone who can use or needs the medicine and can't afford it you should help them a any cost! I mean if it was your mother who needed it and couldn't afford 150 and she was using another caregiver would you want him to say screw you it's 150 or suffer?!

 

I think that if you got into this business to make money and only that you should just be illegal and sell pot or attempt to open a dispensary or something.

 

Don't get me wrong the prices listed above for medical grade are great prices...The part where everyone acts shocked that people would want to help people for free if needed is what gets me. Even the awful drug companies have programs for people who can't afford med's! If caregivers don't offer that to people then you look worse than a drug company in my eyes anyway.

[GreenMagic]

Well I think most of the problem is that a lot of patients can not afford to pay a lot of money for it. See what a lot of caregivers feel is that it is just nice to be able to grow it to begin with (at least I do) and that if there is someone who can use or needs the medicine and can't afford it you should help them a any cost! I mean if it was your mother who needed it and couldn't afford 150 and she was using another caregiver would you want him to say screw you it's 150 or suffer?!

 

I think that if you got into this business to make money and only that you should just be illegal and sell pot or attempt to open a dispensary or something.

 

Don't get me wrong the prices listed above for medical grade are great prices...The part where everyone acts shocked that people would want to help people for free if needed is what gets me. Even the awful drug companies have programs for people who can't afford med's! If caregivers don't offer that to people then you look worse than a drug company in my eyes anyway.

 

Alright I see where you are coming from, but let’s face it money is going to corrupt the medical marijuana program. Michigan’s program is already getting more buzz in the media than Colorado did in its beginning years, which is going to lead to a mass amount of patient sign ups/ clinics setting up shop to accommodate everyone, and get their cut. The majority of people who will be applying to get into this program in the next few years will not have any debilitating medical condition, and will only have joined the program to smoke bud legally. I personally don’t have any problem with that at all, there is no reason why marijuana should be illegally in the first place, so if people want to exaggerate an ailment to smoke legally, all the power to them. I would rather them do that than get caught later down the road and have their lives ruined for harmless plant.

 

That being said, there is no way that the prices are ever going to be free or less than 100 bucks an ounce, but who is really going to turn away a poor multiple sclerosis patient if they give you a call and say " I'm really sick, but I cant afford your prices". You would have to be Satan to turn someone away, and I don’t believe that any of the people that are on this board who want to make money have said that. Why assume that just because that someone wants to make money from the thousands of healthy patients, that they’re going to turn away the truly sick and poor?

 

I am here to make money, and have no problem admitting it. Growing is my favorite thing in the world, and if I can make a 100k+ a year doing it why not? Before another argument starts I have legal representation, and have already figured out a way to make that much while staying within the law. I mean no disrespect to anyone who is here to accomadate the sick and poor, but someone is going to have to take care of all the other people who are not sick and poor and thats what I plan on doing.

[lkline300]

no disrespect to anyone who is here to accomadate the sick and poor, but someone is going to have to take care of all the other people who are not sick and poor and thats what I plan on doing.

 

sigh.......................................................................

 

that's very magnanimous of you......... I take it your not sick.....

 

your here for support but have no plans to accommodate the sick or the poor? Not accomodating the sick & poor is what big pharma does. That niche has already been filled.