Jacks Cleaner

[samtheclam]

yep thats what i was thinking i will have to check tonight.

[AbsoluteRoyal]

When I plant I leave the seed husk above the ground. That way I don't wonder what is going on.

 

so you bury it like .25 cm?

[samtheclam]

well it looks like we are working with 6 babies. Better luck next time

[AbsoluteRoyal]

Im going to do 1 seed like that just because im curious now. I would be afraid the moisture retention at the top layer of soil wouldnt be very good and you would have to water more than once

 

I just throw mine in the dirt and water once after the pre-soak. I dont get 100% usualy but its close.

[samtheclam]

I will have to look at the fox farm feen chart but i think i will be adding ferts soon!!! They look veery healthy all six of them.

[GanjaWarrior]

if they look healthy and ur using ff id say dont bother with the nutes you will more than likely just burn em.

[samtheclam]

Yeah that is a good rule of thumb, they say the soil is good for 3 weeks i been reading. I will just wait to if they go a liter shade green. My triple xxx seed i need to give ferts a light green color and i week ahead of my jacks cleaner. I only have 1 triple xx seed. i am not goign to track as in depth as the jacks cleaner.

[samtheclam]

They are looking good. i will post a pic soon. I have started to use nuts, two teaspoon fox farm grow big and three drops suoer thrive. they are on their third tere. The tripl xxx is 4 tears since my last post. All is well just a slow process, I have completed my third room that is 9 x 9 veg/ clone/ trim room. I converted my old trwo room into a dual bloom room with two 1000 w switchable ballast air cooled hoods. Cant wait to see what happens.

[avgjoe]

Good going Sam,keep up the good work. I am very interested on this thread and a big JH fan. I was lucky enough to sit down and have a lengthy conversation with the man when i was younger,he really opened my eyes to the real world.He was a great guy and sure is missed now.

[samtheclam]

here are the picks. The first one is the triple xxx. The other two are of the Jacks Cleaner

[AbsoluteRoyal]

looking good, jealous of your setup

[samtheclam]

All in time my friend. I was lucky to find a friend to help me out with the funds to geth the extra light system. I f not for them i could not have got this far in this game. So a shout otu to all my friends that ahs helped me get thie far. They know who they are!!!!!!!!

[samtheclam]

I was looking at the bottom of the pots this morning before work and i noticed that there was little root hairs pertruding through the drain holes in the pots. i think it is time to transplant to a bigger conatiner. here is a pic of the new veg room we just built. Dual bloom room is the next project this wweekend.

[samtheclam]

The next question is do i top, fim, bend or leave alone? I will ahve to ponder this one and hope i get lots of feed back on this topic. i think i should wait for pre sex signs before i do anything that could stress these little girls out. I will take more pics next couple of days to show the outcome of my descion.

[AbsoluteRoyal]

I wait until my girls have a good foundation(5-6 nodes) then I top above the 2nd true node(3 if you count where the cotyledons attach). I do this because it redistributes auxins in the plant causing 4 dominant cola's. I then tie down my 4 main tops horizontal for awhile to keep them short and to allow them to bush a bit. I fill up the 1000w's 5x5 with 4 girls this way and they fight for space.

[AbsoluteRoyal]

double post oops

[samtheclam]

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You may not have heard of the strain Jacks Cleaner, but among collectors of Elite genetics it has become somewhat of an urban legend. This is due to a few factors. The first is I grew it for many years before other respected growers tried it and let me know it was probably the best Sativa Hybrid in existence. In 1997 I had a gathering known in breeder circles as “Jamaica 1” several respected under ground breeder/growers met at my place and we spent 3 days toking testing talking and feasting on BBQ and southern food. We had a un official judging and JC won every first place vote. Now maybe the guys were just being nice because I tossed the gig but I knew at least I had found a great strain. But where did it come from?

I got my first PC in about 1994 it was an Acer 133 and soon found a great deal of information on Cannabis, certainly not anything like today but it led me to grow chats where I met others that shared an interest for growing. One of the first I became close online friends with was a guy with the nick ‘Skoosh’. I was amazed that there was another seriously hard working tax paying Loyal American that waked and baked everyday of his adult life. We swapped stories online, toked while we typed and found out we both love ice cream. He offered me some seeds and over time traded around what we each had. He sent me about 200 seeds of a old strain called Skoosh that was pretty infamous in his circles and I started cracking large treys looking for a keeper. The make up of these seeds were Pluton, Lambs bread, Purple Haze, and Northern Lights. What mix or pattern these crosses occurred I am not sure. Most of what I found was not impressive, super thin spindly sativa’s and mutants with whorled leaves. I did find a few that seemed normal and grew them to maturity. Of all the seeds I started over a period of a year one phenotype stood out. It was a extremely resinous ultra lemon wonder. It reminded me of a house hold cleaner named “Mr Clean” So I named it “The Cleaner”. It had one poor trait and that was weak stems and smaller size. I had not yet read botany and we all thought breeders were smarter than god so it was just luck I had a Jack Herer male from Sensi Seeds that I was to lazy to kill and just placed in a dark garage. It refused to die so I placed a small 12” Cleaner clone with him and she produced about 35 seeds.

From these I selected the best female and tossed all the males. From these was the Phenotype many now consider to be the holy grail of Cannabis, Jacks Cleaner is a large heavy producer with ultra white raised trichomes that actually give the plant a gooey appearance. Heavy citrus with over bearing lemon smell and taste I have yet to see anything like it. In 2003 we out crossed the P1 mother with a JC X blueberry offspring and created JC bx. This first stage back cross recently won third place in the 420 cup in Amsterdam by a grower named HOG. It had a 12 day cure and blew everyone away as he was an unknown in there neck of the woods. There is some confusion cause many that have the JC bx misstate the fact and say they have JC leaving off the BX indicating a back cross

 

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You may not have heard of the strain Jacks Cleaner, but among collectors of Elite genetics it has become somewhat of an urban legend. This is due to a few factors. The first is I grew it for many years before other respected growers tried it and let me know it was probably the best Sativa Hybrid in existence. In 1997 I had a gathering known in breeder circles as “Jamaica 1” several respected under ground breeder/growers met at my place and we spent 3 days toking testing talking and feasting on BBQ and southern food. We had a un official judging and JC won every first place vote. Now maybe the guys were just being nice because I tossed the gig but I knew at least I had found a great strain. But where did it come from?

I got my first PC in about 1994 it was an Acer 133 and soon found a great deal of information on Cannabis, certainly not anything like today but it led me to grow chats where I met others that shared an interest for growing. One of the first I became close online friends with was a guy with the nick ‘Skoosh’. I was amazed that there was another seriously hard working tax paying Loyal American that waked and baked everyday of his adult life. We swapped stories online, toked while we typed and found out we both love ice cream. He offered me some seeds and over time traded around what we each had. He sent me about 200 seeds of a old strain called Skoosh that was pretty infamous in his circles and I started cracking large treys looking for a keeper. The make up of these seeds were Pluton, Lambs bread, Purple Haze, and Northern Lights. What mix or pattern these crosses occurred I am not sure. Most of what I found was not impressive, super thin spindly sativa’s and mutants with whorled leaves. I did find a few that seemed normal and grew them to maturity. Of all the seeds I started over a period of a year one phenotype stood out. It was a extremely resinous ultra lemon wonder. It reminded me of a house hold cleaner named “Mr Clean” So I named it “The Cleaner”. It had one poor trait and that was weak stems and smaller size. I had not yet read botany and we all thought breeders were smarter than god so it was just luck I had a Jack Herer male from Sensi Seeds that I was to lazy to kill and just placed in a dark garage. It refused to die so I placed a small 12” Cleaner clone with him and she produced about 35 seeds.

From these I selected the best female and tossed all the males. From these was the Phenotype many now consider to be the holy grail of Cannabis, Jacks Cleaner is a large heavy producer with ultra white raised trichomes that actually give the plant a gooey appearance. Heavy citrus with over bearing lemon smell and taste I have yet to see anything like it. In 2003 we out crossed the P1 mother with a JC X blueberry offspring and created JC bx. This first stage back cross recently won third place in the 420 cup in Amsterdam by a grower named HOG. It had a 12 day cure and blew everyone away as he was an unknown in there neck of the woods. There is some confusion cause many that have the JC bx misstate the fact and say they have JC leaving off the BX indicating a back cross

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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I got my first PC in about 1994 it was an Acer 133 and soon found a great deal of information on Cannabis, certainly not anything like today but it led me to grow chats where I met others that shared an interest for growing. One of the first I became close online friends with was a guy with the nick ‘Skoosh’. I was amazed that there was another seriously hard working tax paying Loyal American that waked and baked everyday of his adult life. We swapped stories online, toked while we typed and found out we both love ice cream. He offered me some seeds and over time traded around what we each had. He sent me about 200 seeds of a old strain called Skoosh that was pretty infamous in his circles and I started cracking large treys looking for a keeper. The make up of these seeds were Pluton, Lambs bread, Purple Haze, and Northern Lights. What mix or pattern these crosses occurred I am not sure. Most of what I found was not impressive, super thin spindly sativa’s and mutants with whorled leaves. I did find a few that seemed normal and grew them to maturity. Of all the seeds I started over a period of a year one phenotype stood out. It was a extremely resinous ultra lemon wonder. It reminded me of a house hold cleaner named “Mr Clean” So I named it “The Cleaner”. It had one poor trait and that was weak stems and smaller size. I had not yet read botany and we all thought breeders were smarter than god so it was just luck I had a Jack Herer male from Sensi Seeds that I was to lazy to kill and just placed in a dark garage. It refused to die so I placed a small 12” Cleaner clone with him and she produced about 35 seeds.

From these I selected the best female and tossed all the males. From these was the Phenotype many now consider to be the holy grail of Cannabis, Jacks Cleaner is a large heavy producer with ultra white raised trichomes that actually give the plant a gooey appearance. Heavy citrus with over bearing lemon smell and taste I have yet to see anything like it. In 2003 we out crossed the P1 mother with a JC X blueberry offspring and created JC bx. This first stage back cross recently won third place in the 420 cup in Amsterdam by a grower named HOG. It had a 12 day cure and blew everyone away as he was an unknown in there neck of the woods. There is some confusion cause many that have the JC bx misstate the fact and say they have JC leaving off the BX indicating a back cross

 

 

Here is alittle info what i found about this strain.

[samtheclam]

I do not know why this posted like this.

[samtheclam]

Just a heads up they are still going good. about 5th tear. I think i will top 2 and bend 2 and keep 2 as is. Going to transplant into a 3 gal mop pail i bought for 1.50 each at a dollar daze. I see the heat is back hopefully it is the last of it.Looking AT GETTING A T5 8 BULB 4 FOOT light fixture to veg till i can put them into bloom.

[samtheclam]

anyone got a good veg light i can barrow. It s worth a shot. In a bind looking for some help. So any thoughts on my idea of topping etc....

[AbsoluteRoyal]

topping to me is only when space demands it, I top every plant from seed to get 4 main cola's just over the 2nd true node (my space demands it). Clones I just bend and weight them down to create a bushy bonzai looking thing.

 

I am an outdoor grower at heart and topping plants outdoors is such a no no in my book. I think topping decreases overall yield and is a stress you should avoid if height restrictions arent a big problem.

 

On a side note it wont decrease yield very much and if you top your taller girls it may help even out the canopy. So expirement and find what you like best.

[samtheclam]

They turned out great. I had 4 fem. Very impressive strain. Got those skunk & durban thi going now 3 of them.