pearlysweetcakes Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 [/All advice welcome & needed!! I amm having a problem with plants that were healthy &nw are in different stages of flower & veg-the leaves start turning yellow on the edge then they have more yellow with round brown spots in the yellow-the ones that are showing the biggest problems are in promix & I had been using fox farms Grow big/big bloom & tiger bloom--I also have cal -mag which i had used on a previous problem -I have stoped using ANY nutes & just using water this last week but it still seems to be getting worse--ANY IDEAS???? Im afarid I will lose them in flower if I don't get a handle on this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PadroPadro Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Pictures are needed to diagnose your issue. BUT seeing as that you say ALL stages in soil...Im thinking one of two things. 1. You burned the girls with a high ppm watering plus high ppm soil. In this case, continue flushing, they will make it. 2. You sprayed them with a harsh spray during lights on. One that left little droplets on your plants. These drops act like magnifying glasses and cause LIGHT burns directly under the water droplets. Take one of your plants and water with 0 ppm water, take a ppm/ph reading of your run off. I bet it is too high. If you're spraying them, do so at lights off so the water can evaporate OR use a spreader sticker to avoid droplets. Hope this helps a little Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearlysweetcakes Posted December 14, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Thanks for the suggestions-I am not spraying so I will try continue flushing & ck runnoff-I like the sound of "they will make it" lol-I sure hope so! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilligaf Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 If I remember correctly you had a mite problem. Check for eggs on the leaves with a scope. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganMan Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Pictures would help. Padro gave some good advice, I would flush, check the run off and go from there. How are the temps in your room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indicat Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 be careful when you are using that fancy pants soil... unless a medium is advertised as inert top soil, then it very likely has all sorts of organics mixed into it and ready to provide nutrition. you very likely burned your plants by over feeding them. good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hempcheff Posted December 14, 2010 Report Share Posted December 14, 2010 Keep in mind too, that part of the normal flowering process is for the plant to use the nutes in the veg (leaves) a few weeks before they are ripe. if it still seems like a nute issue, cut out all grow nutes (micro and bloom are fine, remember there is nit in the soil) as soon as i cut back on the grow nutes, my burning issues were resolved as there was plenty of nitrogen in the soil already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearlysweetcakes Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 [/siz You are right I did I have 2 Hot Shots hangin But-it would not hurt to ck-thanks! If I remember correctly you had a mite problem. Check for eggs on the leaves with a scope. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearlysweetcakes Posted December 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I will try to post pics-I cut most of it off yesterday-we'll see what they look like this am. Temos are from low of 60 to78/80-it really does seem to be the dirt girls-Pro-Mix was the medium I used-I do notice that I have some gnats-is that an issue?? Thanks to all -Flushing & watching & takin advice! Pictures would help. Padro gave some good advice, I would flush, check the run off and go from there. How are the temps in your room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidl Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 [/All advice welcome & needed!! I amm having a problem with plants that were healthy &nw are in different stages of flower & veg-the leaves start turning yellow on the edge then they have more yellow with round brown spots in the yellow-the ones that are showing the biggest problems are in promix & I had been using fox farms Grow big/big bloom & tiger bloom--I also have cal -mag which i had used on a previous problem -I have stoped using ANY nutes & just using water this last week but it still seems to be getting worse--ANY IDEAS???? Im afarid I will lose them in flower if I don't get a handle on this! You could just be experiencing necrosis or a localized death of that leaf due to an array of things...over watering, over fertilizing, stop everything for a day or two let theleaves midly droop then water with just clean water see what happens. how close are your lights..? Pics would help..? but yellowing with brown typically means the root system is suffocating and sucking up too much liquid particlates like a swamp water sludgy type syndrome. Please take pics then post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_speakin_my_mind Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 oops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
just_speakin_my_mind Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Sounds like you need to flush your plants, then re-feed them at a lower level and add some cal-mag.... they are either over-fed, locked-up (a pH problem) or could be root-bound... Do you test the pH of your water & nute solution before you water or feed??? How often do you feed/water them- and how much?? Should feed 1x a week on a feeding schedule that slowly increases as the plants age... and only water between feeds if the top 2 inches of the soil dries completely... or they get boggy in the bottom of the pot and "drown". Have you ever flushed before? If not-- let me know- I'll walk ya thru it if ya need. Good luck hun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearlysweetcakes Posted December 16, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Here's where I am at now with them-Pics hopefully will be posted soon to help with the diagnose-I have been flushing with plain water-also i did find spider mite eggs on the under leaves of one I was having the most trouble with-so it may be a combination of nutes & mite eggs-I sprayed with soapicide & removed ALL the bad leaves that I could find-I also read that spraying with cold water was good so i have been spraying the leaves underside too with that in the am-I have a PH meter & they seem to run in the hi 6's- They may be improving--this am was the first where there was no additional leaf damage-any info on flushing properly would be great! Thanks to all--My goal is perpetual harvest & healthy plants!My feeding achedule was not precise & this grow is the first I have used fox farms-when I start ffeed again I will follow what u suggest-thanks Sounds like you need to flush your plants, then re-feed them at a lower level and add some cal-mag.... they are either over-fed, locked-up (a pH problem) or could be root-bound... Do you test the pH of your water & nute solution before you water or feed??? How often do you feed/water them- and how much?? Should feed 1x a week on a feeding schedule that slowly increases as the plants age... and only water between feeds if the top 2 inches of the soil dries completely... or they get boggy in the bottom of the pot and "drown". Have you ever flushed before? If not-- let me know- I'll walk ya thru it if ya need. Good luck hun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Smoke Posted December 16, 2010 Report Share Posted December 16, 2010 Here's where I am at now with them-Pics hopefully will be posted soon to help with the diagnose- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royal Smoke Posted December 17, 2010 Report Share Posted December 17, 2010 Those Pictures Above are PearlySweetCake's leaves. Can you please help her out. She only logs in from 6:55am to 7:05am, so her thread gets buried..... Don't let her fool you though......here's some of her meds...... (Free Leonard) ;) ;) ;) I'm just kidding with ya Pearly..... that is her bud though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganMan Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Looks like a possible magnesium def but cant tell 100%. Have you tried to flush to see what the run-off pH is? Might be locking out nutrients. Do you use an ozone generator? Do you use Lime, if you don't I would start... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danielshemp Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Don't add lime until you have checked the ph. If you have been watering heavily, you might be seeing symptoms of root rot. Add about 2 tbs of hydrogen peroxide per gallon of water when you flush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MichiganMan Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Sorry didn't mean to add Lime now, too late into flower imo. I use it in the beginning if veg and flower. Also with as much help as your getting I would do 1 thing at a time or you wont know what fixed the problem. Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearlysweetcakes Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Those Pictures Above are PearlySweetCake's leaves. Can you please help her out. She only logs in from 6:55am to 7:05am, so her thread gets buried..... Don't let her fool you though......here's some of her meds...... (Free Leonard) ;) ;) ;) I'm just kidding with ya Pearly..... that is her bud though.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearlysweetcakes Posted December 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 [/sizeKiller Bud Pics!! Thanks for sharin! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofner67 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 I'm having a similar problem. I'm in 8th week of bloom. Seems confined to plants most cloned. Thinking the genetics are getting a bit weak. I'm starting to phase out this strain. The strain used to be practically impervious to pests and such. Do you know the status of how many times your plants have been cloned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofner67 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 swampt root rot makes sense though. I may have over did it with molases and sugar. Stinky and wet dirt. flushed and letting dry out a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruztydj Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 It's a ph issue and is runnin to low. Foxfarm is famous for there f'ed up ph issues and is the reason I dropped runnin there stuff. Add 4 tablespoon of lime to EACH bag of fozfarm and this issue will be gone. Check your ph from your run-off and you'll see it's now in the low 5's. Add a couple teaspoons full of lime to the tops of the soil to each pot and try to mix that into the soil and water them. Flushing will not help this issue as it's not a over fed issue.I fought foxfram soil for the past 2 years and finally gave up and went with sunshine mix number 4. That stuff is way more stable and my run-off now comes out at 6.1.You'll need to water and feed this soil at a higher ph then normal to combat the ph dropping so water at 7.0 to 7.2 and feed at 6.6 ph. With the lime added your problem will vanish in no time. I could show ya a bunch of leaf pic's just like the one ya posted and thats from your ph being off. Wrong ph and they cant eat.... I love the response hehehehehehe. Not everything is fixed by flushing and can hurt more then help. ALWAY check PH first as that's the problem most times. Ph and ppms and check that run-off often....................... Good luck and dont worry, if ya do what I said you'll be back runnin fine in no time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hofner67 Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Low ph makes sense. Thank so very much for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dilligaf Posted December 18, 2010 Report Share Posted December 18, 2010 Pearlysweetcakes problem is spider mites, I don't know about Hofner67 but would advise inspection with a scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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