Several Medical Marijuana Providers Robbed

[mizerman]

Unfortunately information like this is what the "dispensary advocates" will use in Lansing as ammunition to change the current MMJ laws and prevent us from growing in our own homes. Yea...as if a large commercial grow operation would be any safer when 6 guys with shotguns and black hoods on their heads ram a stolen truck through a concrete wall and take everything in the building at gunpoint (check todays news for the guys who stole a backhoe at 4 am and used it break thru the walls of a bank and take the entire ATM with $62,000 in it).

Incidents like these are no different than when criminals follow someone home after they win money in a casino and rob them...but you don't hear any hue and cry to close casinos because people are being robbed do you?

I'm not a caregiver, nor do I sell to anyone, but if I were to do so I would certainly not have any patients/customers show up at my door for this reason alone.

Unfortunately the reality of our meds is that it does attract a certain catagory of users who cannot afford to buy it and have spent much of their life ripping off drug dealers on the street to get it. Its also easy to resell on the street corner. Its probably safer to kick in the door to someone's home than it is to rob a guy on the street who might have a gun or an accomplice across the street with a weapon. Even though all of your patients seem like nice people, they might have friends who have less than honorable intentions. Be aware of that fact and don't let your patients know where you live. Sad but true....

The officer was only being realistic in his statement of the cop shop having no knowlege of where people are growing in their own homes. What he was not saying is that it would'nt have made a difference anyhow...they have no time to provide special attention to every home in their jurisdiction who is growing even if they did have a list of them. This is the information that needs to be known in Lansing....there is no need to LEO to know who is growing and who is not because they are unable to offer them any special protection anyway. Geez...you can call your local police department and tell them you are receiving mail threats, phone threats etc and they will tell you that they do not have enough officers to provide you any "special" protection. They don't have enough cops to protect a bank on a major roadway with a lighted 24 hour gas station across the street thats only a mile away from the Sheriff Department...so what difference would it make if they had a list of everyone who is growing MMJ in their homes?

Do not let these incidents be used as ammunition to change our current laws. Put them in the proper perspective....crap happens, and anyone who comes home from a bank on payday is more likely to be targeted by theives than someone who grows thier own MMJ for their own use. You are more likely to be carjacked than to be targeted by losers in your own home. But they don't want to stop you from driving your car do they?

Watch out for people who want to use these type of incidents to promote their own cause for personal enrichment...there are people out there who have never had their name show up on these forums who are waiting on the sidelines to bankroll LARGE multidispensary operations statewide (just like a CVS pharmacy). But they can't make enough profit on it until the law stops everyone from growing their own meds in their own homes and forces us to buy from a dispensary.

Use common sense to avoid being ripped off, and don't let anyone change our current laws. Hopefully case law will put an end to some of the terrible things that have happened to other legal users in the courts. But using events like home robberies of MMJ to our influence our legislators to change the existing laws is a loser for us, but a HUGE $$$$$$$ windfall for a group of people who want to make money and are waiting on the sidelines for the laws to change in their favor.

Great post

 

 

Mizerman

 

p.s. also our friend who owns Mother Nature's Meds over in Battle Creek was robbed this week as well - he has their faces on camera!

[Frank R]

...there are people out there who have never had their name show up on these forums who are waiting on the sidelines to bankroll LARGE multidispensary operations statewide (just like a CVS pharmacy). But they can't make enough profit on it until the law stops everyone from growing their own meds in their own homes and forces us to buy from a dispensary...

I agree, the corporate machine is always seeking new ways to profit.

Based on the recent corporate defeat in Oakland, CA, but AG Holder, I think it less likely a standard corporate structure or business model could be put in place, even in Michigan.

It makes the activity too legitimate, the last thing the Feds want is a company to be publicly traded on the NYSE with profits directly from MMJ.

I say keep it small, keep it local, keep it real.

[+mayorherb]

It makes an even more compelling argument about the bravery and compassion of our caregivers and growing community. Despite the danger of growing marijuana for sick people, our caregivers/growing patients will not abandon their patients. Our whole community should be proud. The thieves will eventually be caught. A crime is a crime regardless if it involves medical marijuana or not. Thanks, Joe

You can not be caught if no one is chaseing you. He said he hasnt got time for patients/caregivers..Only for prosecution..so if you do not chase the thiefs, who are you going to prosecute?

[lawyercaregiver]

Come on now guys, I don't think the cop is THAT bad. He just says he can't budget people to enforce the MMMA but his proposed solution is hysterical. Extra police patrols in the neighborhood because somebody is a patient or CG

 

Yep that will do it.

 

Mr. Officer, we don't rely completely on the government. My 2 pit bulls and my weapons are plenty to defend my 8-12 plants. It would be nice if they help clean up the mess though.

 

Following home from the G3C? I suppose if I were a regular vendor there this would be very important intelligence!!

 

Thanks!

[stickey1]

Aside from the bias article the fact remains these attacks are happening!! I mentioned a little while ago in a post, I think it had ccw in the title any how it was about these people that got robed on the street they took money $5-6 large and herb but that wasn't the end the thugs came that same night to there residence and hit them again taking more money, herb, Weapons, and personal items (Id's, family pictures) threatening life's of family and friends don't forget shooting animals and worse. More than 30 times this has happen. I'm not trying to create fear. These are facts as I know them. I also have heard(this is hearsay 90% reliable) that they have some men in custody for these hits. This has been going on for about two months and the press is just now writing about it.

The thing is you can't blame it on Medical Marijuana these thugs had more than likely had done it before but they were hitting street dealers that wouldn't report it to LEO.IMO

 

 

took my ccw class today just for that reason theifs look for a easy target but this one will be ready!

[+mayorherb]

took my ccw class today just for that reason theifs look for a easy target but this one will be ready!

Not just the dispense,s Patients, caregivers, think the police should spend some time on ALL robberies..start locking up a few instead of patting them on the back and say good job, some of it will stop.

[lawyercaregiver]

A whole set of security cameras (6 I think) is available as part of a wireless kit you can buy at Costco. The cameras go on when the door opens or motion sensor is activated ($25 or so more). A complete security system with 24 hour assistance, steel doors and cameras runs about a grand or so with a monthly fee (if the alarm is tripped they call for the secret code word- in case it was an accident- before phoning the police for you).

 

I am guessing a nice sticker that says 'smile, you are on camera' or 'protected by Brinks Security' will deter most perps.

[Big J]

Well what to do when the police are involved in you getting robbed? While there is no direct proof the head of our cc West Michigan CC was told by the chief of police "You are the type of person that gets robbed." Todd said excuse menand he repeated it 2 more times less than a week later his home was robbed. Rather odd because he has been a patient since the start and never a problem until he started fighting for our rights in Wyoming.

[Kingpinn]

Every time LEO makes a raid where they say they cant protect you and you have a gun there to protect yourself . You can be sure they will turn the tables on you and make the guns part of your DRUG CHARGE . Trust me on this one been there done that . Day 67 No C O A decision

[ddrew]

took my ccw class today just for that reason theifs look for a easy target but this one will be ready!

We need an MMMA gun club.

We can get together a couple times a month and shoot our guns and talk about MMJ.

We could even have club jackets and shirts.

My idea for the logo

 

"MMMA Gun Club"

"F**K with us, and we will shoot you"

 

You going to mess with someone wearing a jacket like that?

I wouldn't.

[Wayne'sWorld]

NBC25 found out how the law is making it hard for police to protect them.

 

A warning from police to people who store expensive jewelry, thieves may rob your household.

 

“Well it’s an easy source of revenue, why buy it when you can steal it?” said Lieutenant John Mullaly with Genesee Township Police.

 

Genesee Township Police say at least four homes containing expensive jewelry have been targeted in the last two months, but police say the law makes it hard to protect them.

 

“Under the laws , they are not required to give us any information, they don't register with us, we have no idea where they are at,” said Mullaly.

 

That means police can't patrol neighborhoods where people with expensive jewelry live and look for suspicious activity.

 

But police believe criminals follow women wearing jewelry home from the jewelers, a place where people go to buy jewelry and to receive information about it's cost for insurance purposes.

 

“If I was to be a betting man, I would think that to be very, very possible,” said Mullaly.

 

Police say the thieves come at night, and take only diamonds, rare stones and gold, evidence that can be hard to find.

 

“Right now it is probably up in a pawn shop,” said Mullaly.

 

Recent layoffs at the Genesee Township Police Department have also put a strain on solving jewelry-related crimes.

 

“I can't dedicate people to enforce jewelry theft laws, but on the other hand I have to enforce jewelry theft laws for prosecution,” said Mullaly.

 

Police say so far there are no suspects in the robberies.

 

Genesee Township police say jewelry owners in Flint Township and Mt. Morris Township have also been broken into.

 

This post has been edited by EdwardGlen: 22 December 2010 - 07:51 AM

[master.caregiver]

did u guys seee this ROFLMAO they just did a little copy and paste work i could have done better than that retarts

 

NBC25 found out how the law is making it hard for police to protect them. A warning from police to people who store expensive jewelry, thieves may rob your household. “Well it’s an easy source of revenue, why buy it when you can steal it?” said Lieutenant John Mullaly with Genesee Township Police. Genesee Township Police say at least four homes containing expensive jewelry have been targeted in the last two months, but police say the law makes it hard to protect them. “Under the laws , they are not required to give us any information, they don't register with us, we have no idea where they are at,” said Mullaly. That means police can't patrol neighborhoods where people with expensive jewelry live and look for suspicious activity. But police believe criminals follow women wearing jewelry home from the jewelers, a place where people go to buy jewelry and to receive information about it's cost for insurance purposes. “If I was to be a betting man, I would think that to be very, very possible,” said Mullaly. Police say the thieves come at night, and take only diamonds, rare stones and gold, evidence that can be hard to find. “Right now it is probably up in a pawn shop,” said Mullaly. Recent layoffs at the Genesee Township Police Department have also put a strain on solving jewelry-related crimes. “I can't dedicate people to enforce jewelry theft laws, but on the other hand I have to enforce jewelry theft laws for prosecution,” said Mullaly. Police say so far there are no suspects in the robberies. Genesee Township police say jewelry owners in Flint Township and Mt. Morris Township have also been broken into.

[bigbudsnewbie]

I like the idea!! MMMA Gun Club!

[ddrew]

I like the idea!! MMMA Gun Club!

 

I'm telling you, there's strength in numbers.

They start seeing people around the state in their MMMA gun club jackets, and they will leave us alone.

Word will get out, you don't mess with MMMAGIC

 

MMMagic for short

Michigan

Medical

Marijuana

Association

Gun

I-("I"t's your azz if you try to rob us)

Club

 

M.M.M.A.G.I.C.

[Frank R]

NBC25 found out how the law is making it hard for police to protect them.

 

A warning from police to people who store expensive jewelry, thieves may rob your household.

 

“Well it’s an easy source of revenue, why buy it when you can steal it?” said Lieutenant John Mullaly with Genesee Township Police.

 

Genesee Township Police say at least four homes containing expensive jewelry have been targeted in the last two months, but police say the law makes it hard to protect them.

 

“Under the laws , they are not required to give us any information, they don't register with us, we have no idea where they are at,” said Mullaly.

 

That means police can't patrol neighborhoods where people with expensive jewelry live and look for suspicious activity.

 

But police believe criminals follow women wearing jewelry home from the jewelers, a place where people go to buy jewelry and to receive information about it's cost for insurance purposes.

 

“If I was to be a betting man, I would think that to be very, very possible,” said Mullaly.

 

Police say the thieves come at night, and take only diamonds, rare stones and gold, evidence that can be hard to find.

 

“Right now it is probably up in a pawn shop,” said Mullaly.

 

Recent layoffs at the Genesee Township Police Department have also put a strain on solving jewelry-related crimes.

 

“I can't dedicate people to enforce jewelry theft laws, but on the other hand I have to enforce jewelry theft laws for prosecution,” said Mullaly.

 

Police say so far there are no suspects in the robberies.

 

Genesee Township police say jewelry owners in Flint Township and Mt. Morris Township have also been broken into.

 

This post has been edited by EdwardGlen: 22 December 2010 - 07:51 AM

Hi-larious!

Anyone who possess an object that a thief would steal should have to make the location of that item known to LEO.

While this may sound like an additional bureaucratic burden on the already overworked, underpaid, unappreciated Law Enforcement Systems, it really isn't.

LEO simply has to have a White Pages and Yellow Pages for the listing to where there are items of value to a thief in their jurisdiction.

Every home, every store, every location has something of value for a thief.

Golly gee, they'll even stab you for your shoes...

 

Exchanging all kinds of precious gifts and things

But you'd better lift your diamond ring, you'd better pawn it babe

[TajMahal]

M.M.M.A.G.I.C.

 

I like that. Will there be a varmit sub chapter?