free country 420 Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 hello everyone i am a caregiver for my father a disabled vet my only patient and he wants something strong to help him sleep at night any recommendations on a strain? also maybe a strain or two for the head something with not such a heavy stone? thanks lots guys ooo yea and where can i find diff strains without it feeling shady had a guy last week try to sell me clones from a store here in my area and it just felt wrong and he wanted 50$ a piece is that normal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knottwhole Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Really depends on the pain and the patient. Most of my patients do very well with G13. Others do better when it's given in a tincture form. The one rule most will agree on is that no two patients respond the same so trail and error is the course of action. Keep trying different ones until you find what works. Best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free country 420 Posted January 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 i guess im looking for some knockout stuff lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avgjoe Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 For $50 it better be a tree,just another person(s) trying to get to rip people off.Where do people get off charging boo koo bucks for a cutting? Indicas are your best bet for pain relief. Sativas are more for the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdiamond Posted January 9, 2011 Report Share Posted January 9, 2011 i guess im looking for some knockout stuff lol Then look no farther than anything indica dominant most kill all of my nerve pain . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tooldini Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 It depends on the level of pain and person I am sure. I grew a small purple Jems plant that works the best for me to kill headaches,arthritis pain in shoulder, Hip pain when I get that. It actually works better than some BlueDream I have which almost knocks me on my donkey LOL The purple Jems is mostly Ruderalis then Sativa and Indica from what I understand. It kills the pain and keeps your head clear. I am a novice smoker so maybe it won't work as well on some one more seasoned The Ruderalis plants are said to be higher in the CBD's that supposedly help reduce pain. Just something to look into. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free country 420 Posted January 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 ok so which is witch indica short fat leaves? sativa long skinny leaves? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockinlespaul Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 ok so which is witch indica short fat leaves? sativa long skinny leaves? usually.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 ok so which is witch indica short fat leaves? sativa long skinny leaves? yes indica has fat leaves sativa has skinny leaves. most of the time. but you have to remember most strains out there are indica sativa hybrids. you can still have a skinny sativa looking plant that has a indica affect. try them all and find what works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2d Posted January 10, 2011 Report Share Posted January 10, 2011 ok so which is witch indica short fat leaves? sativa long skinny leaves? Yes, most strains these days are hybrids so I pick the ones with the widest leaves and densest buds. Ask around and I'm sure you'll find some kind people that can help you out with some clones. Check out the "Free Leonard" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRnot4ganja Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 (edited) Yes, most strains these days are hybrids so I pick the ones with the widest leaves and densest buds. Ask around and I'm sure you'll find some kind people that can help you out with some clones. Check out the "Free Leonard" I agree re: Free Leonard. Out of the seven strains I grew, Free Leonard is my favorite by far. Really amazing stuff. Short, bushy, very robust, healthy, easy to grow - a real beauty in flower AND it has an amazing effect on both mind and body. It gets me "up" yet leaves me very relaxed and aware.I don't find it overpowering, but I only take 2-3 small hits. It kind of reminds me of some hash we used to get in the early seventies. This stuff should be legal in all 50 states - it's that good. I have to add something. This is the only strain that produced "euphoria" in me, a trait I was looking for. Until I find something better, I am sticking with this strain as my main meds. Edited January 11, 2011 by amish4ganja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GanjaWarrior Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 You will so not go wrong with the famous Ak 47.... it so lives up to the hype and the description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D420 Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 It's hard to say as each person is different. I would suggest getting a quality Indica dominant, as well as a Sativa dominant. A closer to 50/50 split and everything in between is available, but I think it helps to identify the difference between the two. Do NOT take them at the same time. You want to get acclimated and assess what each one does individually, so you have a better idea of what fits your needs. After experimenting, I find the strong Indicas are what I need, and of those I am quite partial to any of the Kushes. Your dad might not like the heavy buzz during the day though, so he might save that for bedtime...and instead use something like a 70/30 Sativa dominant to be able to function during the day, but still take off the edge of the pain. Hope that makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pearlysweetcakes Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 [it WAS a Tree + Very Busy & Ready to Flower-Sorry that you think I should GIVE my Electricity,Time & Nutes Away-I am not a mass grower tryin to get rich-BUT i diserve fair compenstion & honestly HATE to part with it even for that! I doubt the person who got it is disapointed! Pearl's Girls are SWEET!quote name=avgjoe' timestamp='1294536177' post='250976] For $50 it better be a tree,just another person(s) trying to get to rip people off.Where do people get off charging boo koo bucks for a cutting? Indicas are your best bet for pain relief. Sativas are more for the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutbutter Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 hello everyone i am a caregiver for my father a disabled vet my only patient and he wants something strong to help him sleep at night any recommendations on a strain? also maybe a strain or two for the head something with not such a heavy stone? thanks lots guys ooo yea and where can i find diff strains without it feeling shady had a guy last week try to sell me clones from a store here in my area and it just felt wrong and he wanted 50$ a piece is that normal? depends on the size of the clones. If these clones are a couple of feet tall, they could be worth a hundred or more. If they are just starting to root then ten bucks to 25 seems to be going rates. Now then .. strain. You have listed two different objectives. Pain killing and knockout. For pain killing, use your nose. A smell that makes your nose itch will produce pain killing effects. The compound that makes your nose itch is the same compound that gives black pepper it's taste and smell. For this compound, a batch of bud that makes you sneeze should have ample supply of this compound. For knockout, you want CBN. CBN is known for sedative effects. CBN is produced the the degradation of THC. It turns the crystals in the bud into a amber color. The content of CBN is mostly determined by when the plant was harvested. So look at the dust on the bud. Is it a tan color? Then look closer with a jewelers magnifying loop. 30x. Look at the heads of the crystals. Are some of them amber in color? Then that batch should provide the sedative effect. Both of these compounds are THC modifiers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Budz-4-U Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 KUSH. I had back surgery, and I think Kush strains work like a mild pain reliever and mild muscle relaxer. In addition to not taking those types of pills anymore, I also no longer take Cymbalta for mild depression/anxiety. Indica strains, like Kush, work on anxiety, and Sativa strains, like White Widow, work on depression. This is what I found works for me. I have found that most strains and hybrids, that I have tried so far, with the words "kush" or "widow" in the name/genetic background, are great meds, if grown correctly. Kush (I copied this from Wiki) refers to a subset of strains of cannabis indica. The origins of Kush cannabis are from landrace plants mainly in Afghanistan, but are also from Iran, Pakistan, and Northern India,[1] with the name coming from the Hindu Kush mountain range. "Hindu Kush" strains of cannabis were brought to the United States in the mid-to-late 1970s and continue to be available there to the present day.[2] Kush strains were among those cultivated by the British firm GW Pharmaceuticals for its legally licensed commercial trial of medicinal cannabis.[3] "O.G. Kush" is a hybrid strain of cannabis consisting of part sativa and part indica; resulting from the cross pollination of two flowers: Lemon Thai and Afghani. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free country 420 Posted January 11, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 sounds more like i need to harvest by the crystals to ge tthe effects im looking for and also get some better strains. i was thinking of mabey1 g13 1 kush 1 free lenord and i still have room for one more strain. see i want 4 diff kinds so i can narrow it down to 2 that i will harvest the most Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fantasy.Farm Posted January 12, 2011 Report Share Posted January 12, 2011 Try LUI or Black Domnia , Herijuana but I must say that Chocolate Trip put the serious numb effect on me more then any ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatthewMatics Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 The Free Leonard helps with pain for sure. I haven't seen a patient who doesn't get some relief from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank R Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 (edited) Out of the 4 Indica strains I have going my patients report the Romulan to provide the most pain relief. I agree with their assessment, but I find the 'couch-lock' effect a bit too heavy for my tastes. Purple Urkle is good for body pain, and gives a slightly uplifting head high. Purple Wreck is good for body pain, and has a mellow head high, and has a great smell. I switch between Purple Urkle and Purple Wreck for my personal pain management. Sounds like I need to get some Free Leonard on the menu though... Edited January 24, 2011 by Frank R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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