What "greenbridgesmi.org" Is All About – Change

[bigzee]

First and foremost this post IS NOT spam, it has been authorized by Michigan Medical Marijuana Association administrators. We are not on here trying to force you to our site to generate hits. We are a new company in the state of Michigan that has realized a problem in our state concerning the way this program is run. We are simply trying to help this movement progress in a positive direction by offering one possible solution to the problem.

 

Secondly, even though our site will have a wealth of information for everyone its main purpose is to serve the medical marijuana patients and caregivers of Michigan. So if you're not from here, no big deal, still check it out to see what our group is trying to do for the patients and caregivers from this state.

 

If you want to bash what we’re doing, that’s fine, but I ask that you don’t bash it right away. Read our information and at least educate yourselves about what it is we are trying to do, and then if you want to bash, go right ahead. Otherwise we would be happy to answer any questions you might have or discuss anything related to the site

 

Here's A Quick Word About Us

 

We had simple beginnings. The idea started with us, a group of lifelong friends, who are also Patients and/or Caregivers and a conversation.

 

As members of a special community you can’t help but notice, see and feel news being made around you at all times, news that makes you wonder how long this good thing can last. It seems every day or at least every week we see incidents in the news or catch word of something bad happening within our community. It seems that the brass in Lansing are trying to abolish something that 63% of this state voted for and wanted, however there is an opposite side to every coin. We must ask ourselves if we’re not, as a community, making their jobs kind of easy. Granted there have been many cases that have seemed very shady to say the least. But, there have also been cases of people operating outside of the boundaries that have been given to us, no matter how gray they are, they are still boundaries, we all know them, and that only makes the lawmakers initiatives easy.

 

After many conversations like this we basically set forth to find a way to offer convenience to Patients and Caregivers while still being able to operate within the laws set before us. One of us having a strong programming and web development background made it kind of easy to decide which medium we were going to deliver this service on. And then came the plan…

 

Build a network of Patients and Caregivers united under the one thing we all have access to no matter where we reside in the state, the web. Offer a site with different levels of membership with each level gaining more privileges, while maintaining a site with valuable information that could be used by anyone. Open to anyone with a PRIVATE side made up of the network that can only deal with other members of the network.

 

The key word in this whole thing is “PRIVATE”. We want to take OUR COMMUNITY, yours and ours, out of the public eye, not to have them forget that we are here, but to let them see that we can operate without raising concerns. It seems that the general public feels as if we are trying to thrust what we stand for in their face with the “you can’t do anything so get over it” attitude, when the fact of the matter is if we push too hard in the wrong direction they will be able to do something. Even though 63% acceptance is a vast majority it’s not too far off from 49% acceptance which would put an end to what we stand for. The point of all this is unless we come together as a community and show the general public that we can coexist peacefully…lol, then that 49% will get closer and closer.

 

 

Thanks and have a great day.

[Guest thequietone]

Hi Bigzee and welcome to the site. I would like to know why you are gathering information and signing people up months before you will be going live.

 

 

 

 

 

 

P.S. I gave Bigzee permission to post and give him a chance to answer the questions the members have.

[+420Atheist]

Pretty professional looking web site. I also like the premise. I think thequietone ask the first obvious question and I would like to hear the answer to that one too. My other concerns/questions are:

 

1. How are the hard copies of our paperwork going to be kept safe?

2. The on line sign up form request all information. How is that information being kept electronically safe?

3. Why is it necessary to keep that information electronically vs cross referencing the paper docs with a user number?

4. Why would I choose to use this over my local clubs farmers market?

[bigzee]

Hi Bigzee and welcome to the site. I would like to know why you are gathering information and signing people up months before you will be going live.

 

Hey quietone,

 

Once again thanks for the opportunity to reach out to the members of Michigan Medical Marijuana Association.

 

There are a couple different reasons why we are doing a preregistration for the site. The first and most important reason is that we are a site for our community, and it's our communities opinion that matters the most. By preregistering you are automatically put on the list as a BETA tester for the site, which means you get access before anyone. As the site nears the end of development you will be able to critique and offer insight into changes you feel we should make or things that should be added. We should be open for BETA testing in about a week, so those members that have already signed up will have their accounts confirmed and be able to start sharing their opinions and thoughts with us.

 

Second, this site is a networking site, so in order for it to operate effectively that network has to be built, and its has to be as vast as it possibly can be by the time we go live. Our goal is to have reached and have networks established in almost every part of the site, thus creating a successful network which can effectively serve all registered patients of Michigan.

 

This can only be achieved with the help of our community including the members of your site, so again, thank you.

 

Please shoot away with your questions, I am eager to answer.

[bigzee]

1. How are the hard copies of our paperwork going to be kept safe?

2. The on line sign up form request all information. How is that information being kept electronically safe?

3. Why is it necessary to keep that information electronically vs cross referencing the paper docs with a user number?

4. Why would I choose to use this over my local clubs farmers market?

 

Hey 420Atheist,

 

Thanks, it helps when one of our founders is a programming and web development specialist.

 

1. Anything that is sent via snail mail will be scanned and then destroyed. So only an electronic copy of your information will be kept.

2. All information that is submitted through the any of the signup forms is kept in a database that is behind a very lengthy and complex password, on top of that everything is cipher seed encrypted.

3. Don't really get this question, but I'll give it the best shot I can. The electronic access of the information, FOR US ONLY, is invaluable when it comes to querying potentially thousands of members.

4. Ya know I haven't been asked this question yet, so good one. Other than our opinion that any formal sort of compassion club wont exist for much longer, and in the case that this was to happen we hope to fill a gap that many patients may experience. Although you and I may have pretty quick access to anything we medically need, there are others out there that are not so lucky. Also we do have members of our community that are debilitated to the point the either can't or don't want to leave their house. In this case we would definitely be able to assist the patient in the finding and delivery of the meds they desire. Lastly I guess convenience, why leave home when we can come to you.

[_abbenormal]

hey all

 

hi thequietone i do hope you know these people well to offer them a place to advertise here... if you do know who does own this site and are endorsing it then i will feel a lot better about this... it does look shady imo as to no name to put to this at least here you all post who you are on this site and are not asking for private info that is to be kept on a site that can be hacked... you here at the mmma has never asked for private info to use to be verified your who you are... ok with that being said ...

 

i think this is not a good idea for a few reasons...

 

first

there is and has to be a hidden agenda with this site... they clam to want to help and support a patient and caregiver forum... why did they not ask to help out here first... hum

 

second

if they were trying to help the people with this law why do they want to keep us all divided... how many web site are needed for the same info to be posted on... hum

 

third

if there ideas are so good why did they not talk with the mmma first and offer to help this site with there ideas... hum

 

forth

we have right now 5 to 6 different sites that have been made to help and not one has even gotten close to unity and bring us all together for this... to many hidden agendas... hum

 

i like to have choices but when you ask for private info about us all i have to think theres more to why your asking and if all this info is given online theres not much protection offered they have a hard time keeping credit card info safe...

 

why would you want to make another site to add to people still in fear for the choice they have made and divide us more by taking away from here is your info going to be more than what we get here now... or you think your way is better than working with in this model... not sure but i do like choices... the choice to say im not sure im willing to give you my info now or ever as to i dont feel you are really going to help by taking more people away and adding to your numbers... only to divide us more... i do wish you good luck with the site it is fancy and nice but i wished you would have put it into here...

 

 

abbe

 

also if im wrong please tell me im a big guy who can say hey i was wrong and im sorry for what ive said but this is what i see right now...

[GanjaWarrior]

hey all

 

hi thequietone i do hope you know these people well to offer them a place to advertise here... if you do know who does own this site and are endorsing it then i will feel a lot better about this... it does look shady imo as to no name to put to this at least here you all post who you are on this site and are not asking for private info that is to be kept on a site that can be hacked... you here at the mmma has never asked for private info to use to be verified your who you are... ok with that being said ...

 

i think this is not a good idea for a few reasons...

 

first

there is and has to be a hidden agenda with this site... they clam to want to help and support a patient and caregiver forum... why did they not ask to help out here first... hum

 

second

if they were trying to help the people with this law why do they want to keep us all divided... how many web site are needed for the same info to be posted on... hum

 

third

if there ideas are so good why did they not talk with the mmma first and offer to help this site with there ideas... hum

 

forth

we have right now 5 to 6 different sites that have been made to help and not one has even gotten close to unity and bring us all together for this... to many hidden agendas... hum

 

i like to have choices but when you ask for private info about us all i have to think theres more to why your asking and if all this info is given online theres not much protection offered they have a hard time keeping credit card info safe...

 

why would you want to make another site to add to people still in fear for the choice they have made and divide us more by taking away from here is your info going to be more than what we get here now... or you think your way is better than working with in this model... not sure but i do like choices... the choice to say im not sure im willing to give you my info now or ever as to i dont feel you are really going to help by taking more people away and adding to your numbers... only to divide us more... i do wish you good luck with the site it is fancy and nice but i wished you would have put it into here...

 

 

abbe

 

also if im wrong please tell me im a big guy who can say hey i was wrong and im sorry for what ive said but this is what i see right now...

Right on abbe +420

[badinuf]

Doesn't Quiet Tone runs this site anyways? I thought he was the ceo.

[+420Atheist]

 

2. All information that is submitted through the any of the signup forms is kept in a database that is behind a very lengthy and complex password, on top of that everything is cipher seed encrypted.

 

Ok here is the court ordered search warrant for the password. Now what? Do you have any plausible deniability that can keep those records private? Here people only know who I am if I allow them to and I have the same ability to network with other patients. I think the risk of being on a state wide web sites database is too high for me to take.

[Guest thequietone]

First the MMMA or myself do not endorse this site.

 

There was a thread started about this site and several members posted questions and concerns. He asked if he could come on here and try to answer any questions. If we are to become a unified community everyone needs to have a voice. This includes those we may disagree with. Unfortunately there is a reality that the MMMA must face and that is not everyone wants to belong to the biggest MM site in the state. For whatever reasons they have there are those that are uncomfortable belonging to a site with so many members.

 

Yes, there are many MM sites out there now and nobody wants to work together or even talk. I am opening up a line of communication here and if I am to be condemned for it, so be it. The site is going to exist and if they truly want to help patients then we should try to coexist and work together to help patients. This is not pissing contest here folks. There are sick people here under attack and the more people who come together the better. If it takes more then one site to do... so what.

 

If these people have a hidden agenda then we need to ask questions so we can find out. Then we can put out a warning to the members if we have to. Just like with MMAC, when Joe found out what was happening he began putting the word out.

 

Joe if I should have removed the link I apologize to you.

[Guest thequietone]

Doesn't Quiet Tone runs this site anyways? I thought he was the ceo.

 

No, I am just a volunteer.

[CannaNanna]

You are absolutely correct.

 

 

 

hey all

 

hi thequietone i do hope you know these people well to offer them a place to advertise here... if you do know who does own this site and are endorsing it then i will feel a lot better about this... it does look shady imo as to no name to put to this at least here you all post who you are on this site and are not asking for private info that is to be kept on a site that can be hacked... you here at the mmma has never asked for private info to use to be verified your who you are... ok with that being said ...

 

i think this is not a good idea for a few reasons...

 

first

there is and has to be a hidden agenda with this site... they clam to want to help and support a patient and caregiver forum... why did they not ask to help out here first... hum

 

second

if they were trying to help the people with this law why do they want to keep us all divided... how many web site are needed for the same info to be posted on... hum

 

third

if there ideas are so good why did they not talk with the mmma first and offer to help this site with there ideas... hum

 

forth

we have right now 5 to 6 different sites that have been made to help and not one has even gotten close to unity and bring us all together for this... to many hidden agendas... hum

 

i like to have choices but when you ask for private info about us all i have to think theres more to why your asking and if all this info is given online theres not much protection offered they have a hard time keeping credit card info safe...

 

why would you want to make another site to add to people still in fear for the choice they have made and divide us more by taking away from here is your info going to be more than what we get here now... or you think your way is better than working with in this model... not sure but i do like choices... the choice to say im not sure im willing to give you my info now or ever as to i dont feel you are really going to help by taking more people away and adding to your numbers... only to divide us more... i do wish you good luck with the site it is fancy and nice but i wished you would have put it into here...

 

 

abbe

 

also if im wrong please tell me im a big guy who can say hey i was wrong and im sorry for what ive said but this is what i see right now...

[_abbenormal]

hello thequietone

 

thank you

 

i figured this was the case... like i said im sorry to say what i did but i am one who sees something that sounds to good then its not true... plus when theres no info as to who is in charge of this site that is asking for private info to be a member to me throws up flags... i agree with you this site may not before all people out here so other sites are needed... yes you are right we do need to show we can coexist with others out here and should show support for them as long as they do the same for us... with that being said the others that started there sites thru this site have not showed us the same respect... im for the patient getting the info from who they feel comfortable with... i do like choices as long as there not shown in bad light as the other sites who have started from here have done... i am sorry i posted like i did maybe i should have not do this at this time and just watched what over time would happen... sorry for the disservice i may have caused these folks... ill stay quiet now... sorry

 

abbe

[Guest thequietone]

hello thequietone

 

thank you

 

i figured this was the case... like i said im sorry to say what i did but i am one who sees something that sounds to good then its not true... plus when theres no info as to who is in charge of this site that is asking for private info to be a member to me throws up flags... i agree with you this site may not before all people out here so other sites are needed... yes you are right we do need to show we can coexist with others out here and should show support for them as long as they do the same for us... with that being said the others that started there sites thru this site have not showed us the same respect... im for the patient getting the info from who they feel comfortable with... i do like choices as long as there not shown in bad light as the other sites who have started from here have done... i am sorry i posted like i did maybe i should have not do this at this time and just watched what over time would happen... sorry for the disservice i may have caused these folks... ill stay quiet now... sorry

 

abbe

 

I will ask that you always step forward and speak your mind. You did no disservice my friend and never feel sorry for asking.

[bigzee]

hey all

 

hi thequietone i do hope you know these people well to offer them a place to advertise here... if you do know who does own this site and are endorsing it then i will feel a lot better about this... it does look shady imo as to no name to put to this at least here you all post who you are on this site and are not asking for private info that is to be kept on a site that can be hacked... you here at the mmma has never asked for private info to use to be verified your who you are... ok with that being said ...

 

i think this is not a good idea for a few reasons...

 

first

there is and has to be a hidden agenda with this site... they clam to want to help and support a patient and caregiver forum... why did they not ask to help out here first... hum

 

Hey abbe, first of all, thank you, because it will take these sort of interactions to assure our community that there is no sort of hidden agenda behind us. Those who have wanted to discuss this further have actually contacted me via email and asked me to call them, which I did, as I will always stand up for what I believe in. Which the system we have developed is one I believe in. The reason we didn't come here is because MMMA has their own thing going on, we have a different system established for what we are doing.

 

second

if they were trying to help the people with this law why do they want to keep us all divided... how many web site are needed for the same info to be posted on... hum

 

I don't see at all how we are trying to divide anyone within our community. If anything we are completely for the exact opposite. We feel that we need to unite as a community to make a difference and that is one reason why we are on here. We are not trying to steal anything what-so-ever from MMMA, especially their members. Our site is more than just an informational website, we are offering a service, which is why we require more information then this site.

 

third

if there ideas are so good why did they not talk with the mmma first and offer to help this site with there ideas... hum

 

MMMA has been established for a lot longer than us. And again this site is this site, they have their own things and offer their members what they want to offer them, just like us. Just because we are a different website doesn't mean we are trying to compete and/or steal anything from this site. Last time I checked it wasn't considered immoral or unethical to go to another site even if you're a loyal member of another.

 

forth

we have right now 5 to 6 different sites that have been made to help and not one has even gotten close to unity and bring us all together for this... to many hidden agendas... hum

 

I look at it this way, the more sources that you have at your beckoning the more knowledge you can gain. We may share some of the same knowledge on our site, but in retrospect we might offer different things that other sites don't. Again, to us it's not a competition of "who has more members". We feel we offer different services than other sites, that's all. Why not put it out there. There are no hidden agendas, we are just a group of guys who had an idea we felt could help make a difference.

 

i like to have choices but when you ask for private info about us all i have to think theres more to why your asking and if all this info is given online theres not much protection offered they have a hard time keeping credit card info safe...

 

I don't see what we are asking for that makes you feel this way. And it would seem if you really went through the information on our site and understood what it is we are doing, then you would see why we need this. Lets make this clear we DON'T want your social, we DON'T want your qualifying condition as these would bring up HIPPA concerns and if you're a Garden member we DON'T want your address. And so you know, there will not be any sort of credit card or PayPal transaction that is processed through the site. I think the "How Our Memberships Work" area on our site highlights our process quite clearly.

 

why would you want to make another site to add to people still in fear for the choice they have made and divide us more by taking away from here is your info going to be more than what we get here now... or you think your way is better than working with in this model... not sure but i do like choices... the choice to say im not sure im willing to give you my info now or ever as to i dont feel you are really going to help by taking more people away and adding to your numbers... only to divide us more... i do wish you good luck with the site it is fancy and nice but i wished you would have put it into here...

 

 

abbe

 

also if im wrong please tell me im a big guy who can say hey i was wrong and im sorry for what ive said but this is what i see right now...

 

I'm sorry if you live in fear with the choice you made, I can assure you I don't, and I would hope that most people don't, and again we are not trying to divide anything. No model is better than the other, it's all about what you offer, and it's these differences that make things cool not competitive. This isn't a numbers game or an evil conspiracy to bring down MMMA, I promise you that. We do appreciate the wish of good luck and hope this response has helped to clear up any concerns you may have, and again thank you.

[bigzee]

Right on abbe +420

 

Please refer to my response to abbe.

[bigzee]

So let me get this straight. The MMMA invest hundreds of thousands of dollars building up it's website. You build a site and post your link for free to suck traffic off of our site. This shows how ethical you are. I'll be taking your link down. Thanks for replacing us, Bb

 

Blueberry I cannot stress enough that we are not trying to take anything away from the MMMA, this is a great site, one I have frequented many times. Maybe I just started making posts, but the site has been a source of great information for quite some time for myself and quite a few others I know.

[bigzee]

Ok here is the court ordered search warrant for the password. Now what? Do you have any plausible deniability that can keep those records private? Here people only know who I am if I allow them to and I have the same ability to network with other patients. I think the risk of being on a state wide web sites database is too high for me to take.

 

Hey 420,

This is obviously a Private database, and yes it would require a search warrant to acquire its information. But what information would we be storing that the state doesn't already have access too. Again we DON’T want to know certain pieces of info, such as; your social, your qualifying condition or in the case of a Garden member your address.

 

It seems that the main issue at this point would be your registry number, which basically just identifies you as you within the registry. If anything supplying us this information not only protects you, but us as well. Personally I wish there was a system setup by the state that made it easy to verify if a patient’s or caregiver’s number is valid. Simply enter the number, it queries the database and if it’s valid it returns to you the first initial and last name and nice green checkmark with the word VALID next to it, if not it lets you know that number is not valid. This is something that could be made public as it would not be useful to anyone that didn’t have a number.

[bigzee]

First the MMMA or myself do not endorse this site.

 

There was a thread started about this site and several members posted questions and concerns. He asked if he could come on here and try to answer any questions. If we are to become a unified community everyone needs to have a voice. This includes those we may disagree with. Unfortunately there is a reality that the MMMA must face and that is not everyone wants to belong to the biggest MM site in the state. For whatever reasons they have there are those that are uncomfortable belonging to a site with so many members.

 

Yes, there are many MM sites out there now and nobody wants to work together or even talk. I am opening up a line of communication here and if I am to be condemned for it, so be it. The site is going to exist and if they truly want to help patients then we should try to coexist and work together to help patients. This is not pissing contest here folks. There are sick people here under attack and the more people who come together the better. If it takes more then one site to do... so what.

 

If these people have a hidden agenda then we need to ask questions so we can find out. Then we can put out a warning to the members if we have to. Just like with MMAC, when Joe found out what was happening he began putting the word out.

 

Joe if I should have removed the link I apologize to you.

 

Thank you quietone,

 

What he says is right, and like I have said in a couple other previous posts already. We are NOT what-so-ever trying to take anything away from MMMA. We just have something different that we are trying to get some support for.

[bigzee]

hello thequietone

 

thank you

 

i figured this was the case... like i said im sorry to say what i did but i am one who sees something that sounds to good then its not true... plus when theres no info as to who is in charge of this site that is asking for private info to be a member to me throws up flags... i agree with you this site may not before all people out here so other sites are needed... yes you are right we do need to show we can coexist with others out here and should show support for them as long as they do the same for us... with that being said the others that started there sites thru this site have not showed us the same respect... im for the patient getting the info from who they feel comfortable with... i do like choices as long as there not shown in bad light as the other sites who have started from here have done... i am sorry i posted like i did maybe i should have not do this at this time and just watched what over time would happen... sorry for the disservice i may have caused these folks... ill stay quiet now... sorry

 

abbe

 

No abbe, seriously what you did is super cool, and I would have done it for something that I'm loyal to as well. Just like I am...

[+mayorherb]

hey all

 

hi thequietone i do hope you know these people well to offer them a place to advertise here... if you do know who does own this site and are endorsing it then i will feel a lot better about this... it does look shady imo as to no name to put to this at least here you all post who you are on this site and are not asking for private info that is to be kept on a site that can be hacked... you here at the mmma has never asked for private info to use to be verified your who you are... ok with that being said ...

 

i think this is not a good idea for a few reasons...

 

first

there is and has to be a hidden agenda with this site... they clam to want to help and support a patient and caregiver forum... why did they not ask to help out here first... hum

 

second

if they were trying to help the people with this law why do they want to keep us all divided... how many web site are needed for the same info to be posted on... hum

 

third

if there ideas are so good why did they not talk with the mmma first and offer to help this site with there ideas... hum

 

forth

we have right now 5 to 6 different sites that have been made to help and not one has even gotten close to unity and bring us all together for this... to many hidden agendas... hum

 

i like to have choices but when you ask for private info about us all i have to think theres more to why your asking and if all this info is given online theres not much protection offered they have a hard time keeping credit card info safe...

 

why would you want to make another site to add to people still in fear for the choice they have made and divide us more by taking away from here is your info going to be more than what we get here now... or you think your way is better than working with in this model... not sure but i do like choices... the choice to say im not sure im willing to give you my info now or ever as to i dont feel you are really going to help by taking more people away and adding to your numbers... only to divide us more... i do wish you good luck with the site it is fancy and nice but i wished you would have put it into here...

 

 

abbe

 

also if im wrong please tell me im a big guy who can say hey i was wrong and im sorry for what ive said but this is what i see right now...

Agree, this site is free, No one ahs to give any info..One of the largest sites all ready out there..Why do they want to come n and take away memebers to help? In time they will start chargeing? selling info? or just plane FBI..I trust this site 110 percent..But Not all the people that come here..Amen Abb.

[bigzee]

Agree, this site is free, No one ahs to give any info..One of the largest sites all ready out there..Why do they want to come n and take away memebers to help? In time they will start chargeing? selling info? or just plane FBI..I trust this site 110 percent..But Not all the people that come here..Amen Abb.

 

Hey mayor,

 

Did you read my response to abbe? NEVER charging, NEVER selling info, and FBI, that's the best one I've heard yet. Trust me mayor if the FBI wanted to know where you are they wouldn't have to pull off some crazy elaborate internet venture, they would call the state and say something along the lines of, "hey why don't you give us all the info you have on mayorherb, as he goes on the MMMA website" because they would already know you're on here or better yet they would just access the database of patients and caregivers themselves.

 

What is this top secret or damaging information that we get ahold of??? That's the one thing I just don't understand.

[bigzee]

Hey Mayor,

 

You have a Compassion Club correct?

[northerngal]

Obviously these questions may not get honest answers. But they are questions and issues that I wonder about.

 

Is one or more of your "founders" a "regular poster" on the MMMA? (not asking for names)

 

If we are giving you our information to register with your site, are you in turn providing us with the founders information as well?

 

I know when my husband is assisted in obtaining mmj, he always requires to see the PT/Caregivers card and identification. Is this going to be possible?

 

Perhaps we are of a "different breed", but we like to be able to speak to someone before obtaining meds, learn what they "stand for" to the best of our ability. Yes, they are providing us with a service, but there are MANY out here that can provide similar services for similar reimbursement. I prefer to support those that support similar ideals, goals, aspirations and compassion levels.

 

I honestly haven't read all the info available, just what has been posted here both times. I believe I may have heard tidbits of information about this recently from someone "invested in the project", but can't be factual on that as no name to the project was given. I thought some aspects sounded good, but the person speaking had many hidden agenda's. (although they weren't so hidden in the conversation) Is this a project that has been in the works for some time?

 

I wish you the best in your endeavors despite your responses to my questions.

[ScrogBubbles]

I thought you were going to be something new at first, but from the preview images on your site it seems like all you offer so far is a MMMA clone with intrusive data collection.

 

Please tell us what you will be offering besides and internet forum with classifieds and premium membership?