+EdwardGlen Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 This is how LEO should react when discovering a motorist in legal possession of cannabis. This e mail is from an acquaintance who is a patient and caregiver as is her husband. By learning you will teach; by teaching you will learn. - Latin proverb Ed ======================================================================================== From: Lynn xxxxx <xxxxx64@yahoo.com> Sat, April 23, 2011 12:26:58 PM To: Glen <xxxxxxx@yahoo.com>; Janet <xxxxxx1@live.com> Ed Roger was pulled over last-night in Roseville coming home from work for a headlight being out and got a fix-it ticket but. When he opened up his glove-box to retrieve insurance papers medicine fell on the floor, the glove-box was locked. The patrolman asked if he had taken any in the last four hours and if he was a registered patient or caregiver with the state, as you know he is both. He had planned on dropping it off at his patients house but missed him and just continued on to work. The patrolman asked for his caregiver ID , drivers license which Roger nervously presented along with insurance papers. The patrolman asked Roger to get back in the car and sit down and went back to his car and called on his radio I would guess to check my old mans driving record. He came back to the car and asked Roger if he was telling the truth about not having used any cannabis and of course he hadn't he was at work and does not, never has, would not if he could (cannot) medicate at work. The patrolman handed back all of Rogers paper work and told him to lock his medicine in the trunk before he drives off, get the headlight fixed, and have a nice holiday. The patrolman handled the situation professionally and with tact with-out turning into something much worse. This is the second time one of us has had an encounter with L.E. while in possession and released as we should be and one as you know was an Oakland County Sheriffs Deputy. I thought you might want to share this with all of our other patients/caregivers and supporters. Have a wonderful holiday, looking forward to May 25th. Lynn & Roger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 They are getting more knowledgeable, about time we hear some good news for a change ... Thank you Ed.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydraulic Jack Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 No place in the law does it say to have it locked in your trunk....HJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
treehugger Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 No place in the law does it say to have it locked in your trunk....HJ It's not quite that easy. Having the medicine within "easy" access becomes the first step in being suspected of DUIM. If you don't remember the alphabet as well these days, or have one leg shorter than the other, i would listen to the kind officer and keep your meds safely out of reach (from both temptation and the law!), locked in the trunk of your car. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bob Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Sounds like it was a good encounter handled well on both sides. As for locking it in the trunk, it was a reasonable request from a lawful authority. I see no reason not to comply and wish him a happy holiday. The above point about the first step in DUID is very valid and I would think that locking it in the trunk out of easy access only makes you safer. We should clearly do it and it is good advice. Dr. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David1946 Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 This is how LEO should react when discovering a motorist in legal possession of cannabis. This e mail is from an acquaintance who is a patient and caregiver as is her husband. By learning you will teach; by teaching you will learn. - Latin proverb Ed ======================================================================================== From: Lynn xxxxx <xxxxx64@yahoo.com> Sat, April 23, 2011 12:26:58 PM To: Glen <xxxxxxx@yahoo.com>; Janet <xxxxxx1@live.com> Ed Roger was pulled over last-night in Roseville coming home from work for a headlight being out and got a fix-it ticket but. When he opened up his glove-box to retrieve insurance papers medicine fell on the floor, the glove-box was locked. The patrolman asked if he had taken any in the last four hours and if he was a registered patient or caregiver with the state, as you know he is both. He had planned on dropping it off at his patients house but missed him and just continued on to work. The patrolman asked for his caregiver ID , drivers license which Roger nervously presented along with insurance papers. The patrolman asked Roger to get back in the car and sit down and went back to his car and called on his radio I would guess to check my old mans driving record. He came back to the car and asked Roger if he was telling the truth about not having used any cannabis and of course he hadn't he was at work and does not, never has, would not if he could (cannot) medicate at work. The patrolman handed back all of Rogers paper work and told him to lock his medicine in the trunk before he drives off, get the headlight fixed, and have a nice holiday. The patrolman handled the situation professionally and with tact with-out turning into something much worse. This is the second time one of us has had an encounter with L.E. while in possession and released as we should be and one as you know was an Oakland County Sheriffs Deputy. I thought you might want to share this with all of our other patients/caregivers and supporters. Have a wonderful holiday, looking forward to May 25th. Lynn & Roger Kudos to the patrolman for not overstepping his authority and ruining someones life for not violating the MMMA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydraulic Jack Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Sounds like it was a good encounter handled well on both sides. As for locking it in the trunk, it was a reasonable request from a lawful authority. I see no reason not to comply and wish him a happy holiday. The above point about the first step in DUID is very valid and I would think that locking it in the trunk out of easy access only makes you safer. We should clearly do it and it is good advice. Dr. Bob However it's not in the law to have it locked in your trunk........Saying it enough will cause those in power to believe it's so.......HJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peanutbutter Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 However it's not in the law to have it locked in your trunk........Saying it enough will cause those in power to believe it's so.......HJ Aaahhhhh .. another solder in the war on perceptions .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grewett Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 The riskiest place to be in possession of cannabis is in your vehicle. 72% of arrests for possession, DUID, etc. nation-wide are vehicle-related. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojinx Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 This is indeed a ray of sunshine in what seems to be a sea of gray !!!! great !!!!! dr. Jinx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingnut Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 This is indeed a ray of sunshine in what seems to be a sea of gray !!!! great !!!!! dr. Jinx Lot's better than arrest all , and let the courts sort it out ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyHill Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Sounds like it was a good encounter handled well on both sides. As for locking it in the trunk, it was a reasonable request from a lawful authority. I see no reason not to comply and wish him a happy holiday. The above point about the first step in DUID is very valid and I would think that locking it in the trunk out of easy access only makes you safer. We should clearly do it and it is good advice. Dr. Bob True. It should NOT be within arm's reach. One can quote the law all they want on this subject - but why put yourself in a situation so law enforcement has the opportunity to mess with you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Bob Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 True. It should NOT be within arm's reach. One can quote the law all they want on this subject - but why put yourself in a situation so law enforcement has the opportunity to mess with you? Congrads, you see the point, why ask for trouble or give them excuses. Too many jail house lawyers spoiling for a fight in here, lets see what we can do to foster cooperation, not confrontation. Dr. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estimated Prophet Posted April 24, 2011 Report Share Posted April 24, 2011 Good to hear that at least one member of Bouchard's staff acknowledges our rights under state law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mememe Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 what about people who have no trunk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbojinx Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 what about people who have no trunk? Like those of us who drive a SUV ? Dr. Jinx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaquetoo Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 No place in the law does it say to have it locked in your trunk....HJ Thats what im saying,,why do we have to make up our own rules to be safe? the law is already written! Im not hiding nothing any more,,,I want the cops to hide and keep there butts away from me! my signature says all i need to say,,,,I dont even have to post any more! Peace legalize mj not just mm FTW Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtarzanmd Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 what about people who have no trunk? Like those of us who drive a SUV ? Dr. Jinx Locked in the Glove Box ... A locked brief-case ... A lock portable safe box ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big J Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 A toolbox with a padlock. Was told they need a separate warrant if they take it that far. I have to hand it to the officer though he Handle it well and professional may many more be taught but this man. Thank you officer my hat is off to you please teach all fellow officers that this is how the situation needs to be handled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estimated Prophet Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 A toolbox with a padlock. Was told they need a separate warrant if they take it that far. I have to hand it to the officer though he Handle it well and professional may many more be taught but this man. Thank you officer my hat is off to you please teach all fellow officers that this is how the situation needs to be handled. Big J, that was your 420th post. Just sayin'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bisharoo Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Remember the inside of a trunk anyone? Think drive in movies... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imiubu Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Good to hear of a positive encounter w/ le! I for one choose not to nit pic at Our Law as those opposed choose to. There may not be anything written as to how/ where we are to carry/ transport our meds in a vehicle. I only believe, out of sight, out of mind. Be safe and not give cause for them to hassle me. I drive a van and have no trunk either. There are ways to be stealth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imiubu Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Remember the inside of a trunk anyone? Think drive in movies... Thanks Bish... I sure do remember those days!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenbuddha Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Slowly, ever so slowly... but the wheel does turn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimmyHill Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 Congrads, you see the point, why ask for trouble or give them excuses. Too many jail house lawyers spoiling for a fight in here, lets see what we can do to foster cooperation, not confrontation. Dr. Bob Thanks for the response. I don't neccessarily care if someone agrees with my about any of my feelings about MMJ, but why would anyone want to give LEO another reason to mess with you in any encounter with them? My point is this - what if you had a visible prescription of a narcotic or opiate in the passenger seat of your car when pulled over for speeding, or alcohol? Have a great week Dr. Bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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