jacklash69 Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Curious here, can you tell if meds are going to leave a black,hard,nasty tasting,etc....just by looking/smelling it.I have been smoking a while and I don't think I can.Bummer when you get a nice big batch of headache bud!!!!! Need some input.Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdiamond Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I know a guy who grows hydro and never flushes his plants his medicine does the trick for relief but its always got a salty aftertaste to me . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CedarSpringsCG Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I don't know if you can tell without smoking some of it. Best bet is to get a CG that supplies you, and you know isn't going to give you way over fertilized, salty meds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongHairBri Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 I can smell your nutes from here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdiamond Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 As far as seeing or smelling it the above growers medicine also has a strange smell as well but appearance it looks pretty much like anybody elses meds no strange off colors or anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinsemillaplease Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 If all the strains smell the same. Probably hasn't been flushed. A lot of the imported stuff looks different, but smells the same. Thanks, Bb I have to agree. Canadian bud that we see here and call "beasters" fits that description. Chemmy, grassy smell and a headache immediately upon smoking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asignman Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 IMHO burning lips after a few tokes is common for unleached or over fertilized meds. And of course hacking up a lung on every hit is a sure sign. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+EdwardGlen Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 IMHO burning lips after a few tokes is common for unleached or over fertilized meds. And of course hacking up a lung on every hit is a sure sign. Not true in all cases...I've dosed with medical cannabis grown by a thirty plus year cultivator that made me 'hack up a lung'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinsemillaplease Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 hacking up a lung because there is a burning sensation is different from the expansion of smoke causing coughing fits. the former is bad the latter is good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudPack Posted July 17, 2011 Report Share Posted July 17, 2011 Curious here, can you tell if meds are going to leave a black,hard,nasty tasting,etc....just by looking/smelling it.I have been smoking a while and I don't think I can.Bummer when you get a nice big batch of headache bud!!!!! Need some input.Thanks To answer your question in general no. If the bud is extremely nute burned itll have a yellow look to it but that could be strain specific as well. The smell wont be as strong or pungent if the nutes are locked in still. The ash when it burns will be black instead of that light grey it should be indicating there are salts (which burn black) in the leaf material (which burns grey). Flushing for 7 to 14 days will remove alot of the excess everything. Feeding at the correct rates and checking ppm/ph the whole time to ensure your feeding correctly ensures your flush time is long enough and that you wont need to feed up till harvest that way. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Laster Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Curious here, can you tell if meds are going to leave a black,hard,nasty tasting,etc....just by looking/smelling it.I have been smoking a while and I don't think I can.Bummer when you get a nice big batch of headache bud!!!!! Need some input.Thanks as far as I know there is only two way to find outif the plant has been flushed. 1. burn some of it if it turn white it clean, if it turn black it wasn't flushed at all and if it somewhere between then it wasn't flush right. 2. the other is test it send it to a lab and have it tested and then it will show you how much nutreint are still in the plant aor medicine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaquetoo Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I can tell on both smell and use! most likely because i get alot that is a lil early,,(c.g making room) so i just make oil out of it all,,I dont suggest butter might not be potent enough,,with bho you always get same product just less of it when it is not full grown,,,and watch the butane,,stop when it turns clear! Peace FTW Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzrokk Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I can tell on both smell and use! most likely because i get alot that is a lil early,,(c.g making room) so i just make oil out of it all,,I dont suggest butter might not be potent enough,,with bho you always get same product just less of it when it is not full grown,,,and watch the butane,,stop when it turns clear! Peace FTW Jim Holy Phaq welcome back. LOL. This is good advise. Also true for hermie bud if you end up getting that except I think butter would be ok with that as long as you used extra as hermie meds are weaker I am sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoolander Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Also true for hermie bud if you end up getting that except I think butter would be ok with that as long as you used extra as hermie meds are weaker I am sure. Nope, they're not at all weaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rhinoman Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 I can tell on both smell and use! most likely because i get alot that is a lil early,,(c.g making room) so i just make oil out of it all,,I dont suggest butter might not be potent enough,,with bho you always get same product just less of it when it is not full grown,,,and watch the butane,,stop when it turns clear! Peace FTW Jim Welcome back Jim! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalledLakePatient Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 If I find a leaf on the bud that is super dark green I assume it hasn't been flushed properly, obviously some looks pretty dark after a flush but from my experience unless they say why it is dark I assume they don't know what they're doing. WLP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+JuztBudz Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Usually, unflushed meds, when rolled in a doobie will not stay lit, will have a black ash as opposed to a whitish ash. If this is the case, return them to your caregiver, or the dispensing unit that you acquired them from, they can be harmful to patients. Peace ... j.b. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TajMahal Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I can tell on both smell and use! most likely because i get alot that is a lil early,,(c.g making room) so i just make oil out of it all,,I dont suggest butter might not be potent enough,,with bho you always get same product just less of it when it is not full grown,,,and watch the butane,,stop when it turns clear! Peace FTW Jim Welcome back Jim!!!! Looks like MMMA is back in bizness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
resingland98 Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 A few of us Caregivers took same strains from our crops , we took half down without flushing and flushed the others just to see what the difference would be . Neither tasted different or looked any different , We all use gh floro series . Also if you read other growing sites some say no differnce and some say there is , Even though I have seen no difference I still flush just so my patients aren't smokin,vaping,ingesting nutrients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaquetoo Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Holy Phaq welcome back. LOL. This is good advise. Also true for hermie bud if you end up getting that except I think butter would be ok with that as long as you used extra as hermie meds are weaker I am sure. Thank you ozzrokk you will have to tell me you old name lol! only reason i dont make butter with it is because it is weaker, and i already double or triple the amount of mm per lb of butter, i do 2 zips per and its good,,,but on the other hand its the only thing i make that i gain mm weight on,,,1/4lb mm makes me 2lbs of butter,,1/4 lb of mm makes me 3 to 8 grams depending on strength! Most times im trying to lose some weightage! Peace Welcome back Jim! Thank you rhino its nice to be back amongst friends! Peace Welcome back Jim!!!! Looks like MMMA is back in bizness. now you i have not seen in a long time,,how are you,,thank you for your kind words! Peace A few of us Caregivers took same strains from our crops , we took half down without flushing and flushed the others just to see what the difference would be . Neither tasted different or looked any different , We all use gh floro series . Also if you read other growing sites some say no differnce and some say there is , Even though I have seen no difference I still flush just so my patients aren't smokin,vaping,ingesting nutrients. Thats great news to share! we all do things a lil dif,,kinda like to cure or not to cure,,I know lots of growers using them dryer racks and not curing at all,,no prob here,,i get the whole plant,,i find it is better to cure,,,there are times my c.g comes back and a few months later i roll one,,he is like wow that taistes nice,,who did ya get that from? I just tell him a guy a i know that grows good,,i mean realy good mm! (he grew it lol) Peace FTW Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legacy Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Usually, unflushed meds, when rolled in a doobie will not stay lit, will have a black ash as opposed to a whitish ash. If this is the case, return them to your caregiver, or the dispensing unit that you acquired them from, they can be harmful to patients. Peace ... j.b. These are the same symptoms a patient is seeing. Since it can't be smoked, is it safe to vape? If not, can someone suggest how the pt should start the conversation with the cg? I could imagine the pt saying the meds weren't flushed, then the cg saying they were. Then what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingdings Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 I use organic nutes and definitely notice a lack of intense taste and smoothness. Ie. Generic taste and coughing flem, if I don't give water only for at least a week before harvest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
25 years away Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 I use organic nutes and definitely notice a lack of intense taste and smoothness. Ie. Generic taste and coughing flem, if I don't give water only for at least a week before harvest. Flushing an organic grow is completely useless unless someone can explain to me how nature would flush? If you know plant physiology then you would see that flushing is of no use! All flushing does is deprive a plant of vital nutrients at a time when they are needed. Show me the science behind the flushing myth and I might consider it, otherwise it's a waste of time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GanjaWarrior Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 Flushing an organic grow is completely useless unless someone can explain to me how nature would flush? If you know plant physiology then you would see that flushing is of no use! All flushing does is deprive a plant of vital nutrients at a time when they are needed. Show me the science behind the flushing myth and I might consider it, otherwise it's a waste of time. I would have to agree....from my understanding the whole flushing thing stems from a desire to remove salts and what not ....aka synthetic fertilizers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babytwar Posted December 29, 2011 Report Share Posted December 29, 2011 I agree with ganja warrior. I use veganics and have done experiments with the same strain beig flushed and not flushed with no noticible difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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