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Thanks for the information.

 

I am very excited to see the results.

 

Strain number one.

 

Drying the material showed to be:

Start wt. 5.05 gm dried wt 1.84 gm 36.3% of starting weight.

Wet frozen material 18.71 gm * 36.3% = 6.79 gm if it had been allowed to dry.

 

Yield from dried = 0.25 gm. 0.25/1.84 = 13.6%

Yield from frozen = 1.0 gm. 1.0/6.79 = 14.7%

 

So the frozen fresh captured a little more than I'd expect to see from the dried out material.

 

Second strain in a little while.

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Does anyone know where I can find the 99% Iso ? (Greenville or Mt Pleasant area preferably)

 

The closest I found was at Rite Aid but it's only 91%, so I got two, not sure if 91% is "close enough" ?? The Inactive ingredient is water so I figured it would evaporate along with the alcohol?

 

Walmart had 70%, same as my local pharmacy. Not sure if I should try Medical Supply Store or some other place?? Thanks!

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From experience I'd suggest putting the iso/hash in a well ventated shed/barn/garage with a fan.. Heating it should most def effect quality

Some people want the thc activated, such as someone who would use capsules or use in non-cooked medibles. If you plan on smoking it, this would be ok but it takes a long time to evaporate. The quality is good when heated, as long as it is not overheated.

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what temp does the Oil need to be activated, and not lose the THC into the air?

 

Use a temperature that will activate and is warm enough to do the activation.

 

I use a range of 195F-225F. At the very end I might raise the temperature up to 230.

 

Complete lack of bubbles shows that it is completely activated.

 

Any temperature above 185F is pushing out the iso. boiling point of iso is 185F. Temperatures above that make it very difficult for iso to remain.

Give it a little time (while the cannabinoids are being activated) and 99.99% of it is gone.

 

A couple of drops of water to help purge the oil of remaining iso (or naphtha). Water boils at 212F. So having the oil at 215F insures that the water drops turn into steam. The steam bubbles drive through the oil pushing out even more traces of the solvent.

 

Even more of the solvent is now gone.

 

Still .. watch to see if bubbles form.

 

If they do, it's not done yet.

 

Simpson says to keep the temperature below 295F. I've never taken it that high .. except in an oil pipe.

 

Bubbles that are forming are from CO2. Each molecule of THC, while in the plant, has a molecule of CO2 stuck in it. As long as the CO2 is attached, it does almost nothing when consumed. In fact, with the CO2 still attached, it could cause bloating for a patient. With little to no benefits.

 

Heat breaks the CO2 off the THC. While that is taking place, you see little bubbles forming in the oil. If the bubbles stop (and it's still warm) then there is no more CO2 left to break off the THC you have collected.

 

This doesn't matter if you are going to vape or smoke the oil. The heat involved in those processes almost instantly break the CO2 off. By the time it reaches your mouth, it has been 100% activated. Higher temperatures result in faster activation of the THC.

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Isopropyl's boiling point is at (760 mm Hg): 82.4 degrees C (180.32 degrees F) - source

 

Some might also find this helpful

 

 

Phytocannabinoids, their boiling points, & properties

1. Δ-9-TetraHydroCannabinol (THC) Boiling point: 157°C / 314.6°F Properties: Euphoriant, Analgesic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antiemetic

2. Cannabidiol (CBD) Boiling point: 160-180°C / 320-356°F Properties: Anxiolytic, Analgesic, Antipsychotic, Antiinflammatory, Antioxidant, Antispasmodic

3. Cannabinol (CBN) Boiling point: 185°C / 365°F Properties: Oxidation, breakdown, product, Sedative, Antibiotic

4. Cannabichromene (CBC) Boiling point: 220°C / 428°F Properties: Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antifungal

5. Δ-8-TetraHydroCannabinol (Δ-8-THC) Boiling point: 175-178°C / 347-352.4°F Properties: Resembles Δ-9-THC, Less psychoactive, More stable Antiemetic

6. TetraHydroCannabiVarin (THCV) Boiling point: 220°C / 428°F Properties: Analgesic, Euphoriant

Terpenoid essential oils, their boiling points, & properties

7. Β-myrcene Boiling point: 166-168°C / 330.8-334.4°F Properties: Analgesic. Antiinflammatory, Antibiotic, Antimutagenic

8. Β-caryophyllene Boiling point: 119°C / 246.2°F Properties: Antiinflammatory, Cytoprotective (gastric mucosa), Antimalarial

9. d-limonene Boiling point: 177°C / 350.6°F Properties: Cannabinoid agonist?, Immune potentiator, Antidepressant, Antimutagenic

10. linalool Boiling point: 198°C / 388.4°F Properties: Sedative, Antidepressant, Anxiolytic, Immune potentiator

11. pulegone Boiling point: 224°C / 435.2°F Properties: Memory booster?, AChE inhibitor, Sedative, Antipyretic

12. 1,8-cineole (eucalyptol) Boiling point: 176°C / 348.8°F Properties: AChE inhibitor, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antiviral, Antiinflammatory, Antinociceptive

13. α-pinene Boiling point: 156°C / 312.8°F Properties: Antiinflammatory, Bronchodilator, Stimulant, Antibiotic, Antineoplastic, AChE inhibitor

14. α-terpineol Boiling point: 217-218°C / 422.6-424.4°F Properties: Sedative, Antibiotic, AChE inhibitor, Antioxidant, Antimalarial

15. terpineol-4-ol Boiling point: 209°C / 408.2°F Properties: AChE inhibitor. Antibiotic

16. p-cymene Boiling point: 177°C / 350.6°F Properties: Antibiotic, Anticandidal, AChE inhibitor

17. borneol Boiling point: 210°C / 410°F Properties: Antibiotic, Δ-3-carene 0.004% 168 Antiinflammatory

18. Δ-3-carene Boiling point: 168°C / 334.4°F Properties: Antiinflammatory

 

Flavonoid & Phytosterol components, their boiling points, & properties

19. apigenin Boiling point: 178°C / 352.4°F Properties: Anxiolytic, Antiinflammatory, Estrogenic

20. quercetin Boiling point: 250°C / 482°F Properties: Antioxidant, Antimutagenic, Antiviral, Antineoplastic

21. cannflavin A Boiling point: 182°C / 359.6°F Properties: COX inhibitor, LO inhibitor

22. Β-sitosterol Boiling point: 134°C / 273.2°F Properties: Antiinflammatory, 5-α-reductase, inhibitor

 

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Anyone ever taking it further with Petrolem Either should be cautioned not to because it could Seriously hurt someone.Long time ago we experimented with "Pet Either" extraction method.Its similar to the ISO method but refines out ALL IMPURITIES - Please don't even think about it as we believe it could cause a potential OD.This was back in the 70's and it wasn't fun not being able to get up off the floor.SERIOUSLY,DON'T DO IT! PLEASE! Nobody needs it that Potent!

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You can cook down iso in a crockpot indoors. Here's how. Take the glass lid for a pot (that doesnt have any plastic) and invert it on the crockpot, and put a big pot full of ice on top of that. Put a cup in the middle of the crockpot. The alcohol will boil, condense on the inverted lid, and drip into the cup. Easy, very little odor.

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You can cook down iso in a crockpot indoors. Here's how. Take the glass lid for a pot (that doesnt have any plastic) and invert it on the crockpot, and put a big pot full of ice on top of that. Put a cup in the middle of the crockpot. The alcohol will boil, condense on the inverted lid, and drip into the cup. Easy, very little odor.

 

DO NOT DO THIS!!

 

PLEASE .. ANYONE AT ALL THAT IS THINKING ABOUT RICK SIMPSON OIL.

 

DO NOT SET YOURSELF ON FIRE. THIS METHOD MIGHT WORK OUT ONCE. MAYBE A SECOND TIME.

 

AT THAT POINT, YOU WOULD BE BETTER OFF AT THE CASINO. THAT WAY YOU ONLY HAVE MONEY TO LOSE.

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Crockpots don't get hot at all on the low setting, which is what I use it on. The high setting is too hot though and will boil the alcohol and scorch the oil. There is absolutely no way even the heating element is hot enough to ignite alcohol, at least on my model. If I smelled any fumes I'd be on it in a second, as I'm nearby the whole time. If you're really paranoid, you could wrap aluminum foil over everything and pull it tight with some kind of elastic band to seal it (don't use plastic, it'll dissolve, don't use a wash cloth or paper tower, chemicals will be extracted into the iso in the crockpot and wreck your oil). Either way it's a lot safer than frying bacon on a gas range...

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Well this method of making oil would be a mistake.

 

The leftover chlorophyll acts like a laxative.

 

So the outdoor material this summer would have been exposed to the fallout at the maximum production of the explosions in Japan.

 

Persons that followed my directions may still have frozen freshly harvested bud yet to process.

 

In trying to figure out what was wrong, I ran into clusters of symptoms that, seemed to me, looked like the early onset of symptoms similar to Europe a few years back.

 

I highly suggest people review what has taken place in Europe over the last 25 years.

 

So tonight, I'm blasted .. my target doesn't quite balance yet. CBD energizes CNB is sorta like Valium. I figure very little CBN in the mix tonight.

 

So mentally I have my left hand tied behind me right now, and the keyboard is in the middle of a red fog.

 

And before I actually succeed in not hitting post, I think I'll do so now.

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So the net leftover is enough THC to sink a boat but the alert effect of the CBD.

 

Annnnddd the CBD has a heightening effect. Like a focusing effect. I think it would function for ADD.

 

Big doses of both may be something of a speedball effect.

 

Please note don't drive into the pink fog. We can handle it, but they can't. It freeks them out to see numbers line that.

 

Interesting part about that alert effect. Well .. for function, there's a drug company that prooved all that. For MS, anyway.

 

Recent studies have shown CBD protects AND rebuilds nerves. That's the way I understand it through this red fog.

 

 

post again .

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So someone posted about carbon purification.

 

It has several major benefits. First off, let me say, it lowers the radioactive fallout content of the resulting oil.

 

But that's just part of what it lowers. I believe Chad will be happy to hear about this simple elegant solution. Oh yeah .. he likes it ..

 

fatty waxes are also in

fungus

insect bodies and eggs

Doesn't matter if it was on purpose or by accident, charcoal sucks it out.

 

Activated charcoal sucks metals out of solution.

 

Including things like plutonium etc .. all those mutated metals .

 

As a community we need to know how to produce this medicine.

We need to be able to provide cancer and MS and so many other kinds of patients, medicine that is a close to free of fallout as possible.

 

Homework assignment to the world -> Find pictures of what the tops of pine trees look like in eastern Europe. How does exposure, of radiation do to the tips of pine trees? Hey folks out there!! take a peek and see if you have mutant thingies at the tips .. or just burned tips. Probably in pockets .. Would hope so anyway. I didn't look past my front yard. I had taken note of the burn already.

 

Something like taks a couple tablespoons of cheap acuuraium tank activated charcoal. put in in a plastic bag. put in on conrete. hit it with a hammer.

 

Dump it into the freshly filtered solvent for the simpson extraction.

 

It sucks .. it really sucks a lot of crap out of the soup.

 

click post through the fog.

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Oh yeahb .. a way to flush most poisons in police stockpiles

 

ping .. another PSA. You to can help can help people to stay alive with existing police stockpiles. It was nice of them to hold that material for the public health.

We just need to determine exactly the stockpile gets passed out to.

 

I'm guessing relatives of officers who provided this safe haven should have their families provided for first.

 

So exactly what it the size of the pile? What should the size of the tile be?

And which officer of the law blocks this medicine from a relative of one of their own? Would those around that officer please take him or her aside?

 

Teach them cannabis cures cancer. Then ask them if there is a reason your son or daughter or whatever can not have some of that material to keep them alive. They can say Yes they can say no .. Who knows .. that might be the last person as a roadblock.

 

Activated charcoal sucks out most poisons you would expect to find there. Probably miss some.

 

Normally my suggestion about the topic of the thread would have been very bad. Except for this year.

 

You can't administer radiation to sick people. Surely not in high doses. Making any simpson oil from radioactive material would concentrate the dust particles into the oil.

 

Activated charcoal sucks that out.

 

The fog is thinning out a little.

 

PSA -> folks: don't drive into the pink fog. In know .. we can handle it, but they can't. And they really freek out about numbers like that.

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Did I mention that CBD rebuilds nerve stuff!! -> fan club .. I question the quality of such claims through this fog. If I am not competent to drive, can I function rationally enough to make a claim? Is it determined by the diameter of the spot in the fog?

 

Did I mention you might be able to convince a higher up to help you mom or pop out? Low blow .. sorta. But seriously, they paid you guys a ton of tax dollars to read my stuff all the time. May as well put it to good use .. but hey.

 

By now, you know.

 

Dosage about 200 mg carbon filtered material that used to have the identified problem. If it hurts someone it's me first.

 

Additional ~ 200 mg oil from new batch. Known green "fresh" content.

 

Both oils, I believe, have exceeded 90% cannabinoid content.

 

Pulled green out. I cheated. someone allowed me to have a centrifuge. Just slots for four test tubes. Really slows things down. But cleans up the carbon very nicely.

 

I think I got a better way.

 

How about this:

 

smash up some Meijers petstore activated charcoal. Fishtank stuff. dump it into a plastic bag and smash it up with a hammer. Dump it into some 99% iso. run it through a set of bubble bags.

 

Then use just the stuff caught in the bags for your charcoal to put into the simpson oil wash liquid.

 

Let the stuff suck for a while.

 

Use the bubble bags again. This time what goes through the bags is what you cook down into Simpson hemp oil. Still some green? Wash it again. When it is nearly a urine color would be about right. Then cook that result down into oil.

 

There .. that should do it for one night of CBD induced "Lets save the world tonight." For some reason I always thought it would all disappear if I tried to write it down. It'll be interesting to see what I did later. Sorta like a dream state.

 

Still some fog, but I might be able to sleep now.

 

Did I mention that CBD rebuilds nerves? I bet it works better in combination with THC. Oh WOW .. did I mention a drug company showed it did real nice things about nerves for like MS patients?

 

To the cops out there ..

 

Save a relative. Maybe long shot, but who knows .. ask someone further up if they would let you try to save someone you care about. You might not know anyone with cancer, but most folks do these days. It might be the last officer that needs to think about the question "can we keep people alive with this medicine?"

 

So what is the size of the pile that needs to be rationed?

 

Goodnight .. I hope .. duration of seismic event .. 11pm-6am .. diameter of hole now nearly the width of the monitor. reading is easier.

 

Pink fog:

Don't do it ..

we can handle it, but they can't

And they really freak out about numbers like that.

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