Ron Paul

[+EdwardGlen]

It's good to treat Katrina refugees like FEMA did? Good to allow frakking and offshore drilling? Dumbed down education? Stealing the country's wealth? Banning herbs and supplements in favor of pharmacueticals? Kill us slowly with radiation? I honestly don't know where you are coming from a lot of the time, Ed. You seem like a really cool guy but your ideas are out to lunch.

 

 

Explain your comment. I'm for helping people and a clean environment and not forcing drugs over natural remedies on people. why am I wrong for not wanting some one in power who doesn't want or would refuse to help disaster victims.

[HELP!]

Explain your comment. I'm for helping people and a clean environment and not forcing drugs over natural remedies on people. why am I wrong for not wanting some one in power who doesn't want or would refuse to help disaster victims.

 

 

I think the point he was trying to drive home was, a lot of these federal agencies are worthless. FEMA took too long to respond and when they did look at the crap they doled out. Toxic and contaminated trailers. The expansion of the federal government is horrible, it needs to be reigned in and done away with. The Dept of education using SWAT teams to go after people who have defaulted on student loans, SERIOUSLY!!!??? The DEA and ATF making deals with drug cartels to traffic narcotics into our country as long as they snitch on another cartel (operation fast and furious) We don't ever want to rely on the government to "take care of us" that's not Liberty or democracy, that's socialism/communism.

 

I'm not saying we as a nation should not help disaster victims, I'm saying too much Big Brother in our lives goes against everything this nation was founded on. To outlaw a natural herb that has been used both medically and industrially for thousands of years is ridiculous. The Constitution of the United States was written on hemp paper! Its just a mass of federal agencies that are useless and unneeded. We can not under any circumstances as a nation, generation rely on the federal government to solve our problems, our founding fathers didn't.

[TheBeagle]

did i mention RP 2012.... Blowbama

[+EdwardGlen]

did i mention RP 2012.... Blowbama

 

 

And a Repubelicanazi gets in office and then what happens to the medical marijuana community? Dems aren't perfect but the Repubelicanazi's have made it very clear we little people who hold this country up...don't matter to them.

 

You see how the repubelicanazi's are treating us at the local and state level, think of the attacks coming directed from the White House.

[MightyMightyMezz]

And a Repubelicanazi gets in office and then what happens to the medical marijuana community? Dems aren't perfect but the Repubelicanazi's have made it very clear we little people who hold this country up...don't matter to them.

 

You see how the repubelicanazi's are treating us at the local and state level, think of the attacks coming directed from the White House.

 

How can a person be so obstinate in their ability to misrepresent Ron Paul's stated goals? Intentionally spreading disinformation or do you actually believe this shiit? Ron Paul has been for full legalization for a long time, unlike scumbags like Obama and Bush.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkfQya3kTOI

[+EdwardGlen]

How can a person be so obstinate in their ability to misrepresent Ron Paul's stated goals? Intentionally spreading disinformation or do you actually believe this shiit? Ron Paul has been for full legalization for a long time, unlike scumbags like Obama and Bush.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkfQya3kTOI

 

 

I know hustler when I hear one speak...

[MightyMightyMezz]

I know hustler when I hear one speak...

 

No you don't. You voted for Obama and support him to this day.

[mosshowd]

No you don't. You voted for Obama and support him to this day.

 

 

 

TRUTH, TRUTH, TRUTH!

[TheBeagle]

And a Repubelicanazi gets in office and then what happens to the medical marijuana community? Dems aren't perfect but the Repubelicanazi's have made it very clear we little people who hold this country up...don't matter to them.

 

You see how the repubelicanazi's are treating us at the local and state level, think of the attacks coming directed from the White House.

 

Sure RP may be a repub...but he is more of a Classic Liberal whom supports what this country was founded on...in which would be the constitution...that WE not longer have..because of the shady donkey Dems in office because they want their hands in everything...college ,food,housing,hell give em a few years i wont be able to bunny muffin in my own toilet with out em trying to get their hands in that too. no one can change my views this is my 1st time ever voting and RP gets it's 100 % as for the dem and obama,bush,chen and all them other political goons done........not a dam thing but start wars and cause hell for everyone...just liek this NEW American JOBs act.... WOW they change the name...all it is just a bunch BS bills wrapped in a tight knit.....that they could not pass before. Look at detroit....Home of the Motor's.......where is ALL these JOBS.......(crickets)

[Timmahh]

Democrat or Republican hardly matter any more.

 

i dont recall when it was we dropped to the 2 party system. i want to say durring Regans terms, perhaps it was Carters. This has been by far the most negative and most detramental facet of our American Politcal System.

 

Many Many legislators were against this policy when it was first introduced, that is until they realized how much power it gave the 2 partys. Then, pretty much the only legislators against this policy, were those that were not part of the Democratic, or Republican party.

 

this one mandate, moving to the 2 party system, has single handidly split the Country.

 

you can NOT work for a group of humans as large as the American Popultion, with only 2 sides of view.

 

how well would our supreme courts work if their were only 2 justices? we have an Odd number for a reason, so their can not be a deadlock, their must be a movement forward, good or bad, but a resolution wil be made. Additionally, the 2 party system, realistically only speaks for roughy 40 percent of the population. the fact is, the Majority of US Citizens consider themselves neither Democrat Or Republican, but these are the only two partys i have to chose from? really? what happened to the idea that competition drove things forward, positively?

 

 

yet, in the largest Polical System in the world, in a country that touts its Dynamic Diversity of Peoples, has only a 2 party system to speak the minds of everyone? simply put, it can not. the 2 party system needs to be repealed, and returned to the system that allowed for multiple polical parties. couple that with the elimination of ALL Lobbyist.

 

Government should not be getting advice on making laws, or regulations from the people hired by industry to sell them the product of the day. Government, needs to have Scientists, Scholars, Educators, and non Associated Industry Experts aquireing and providing the un adulterated information needed, for our government to work in the best interest of the people. and these folks then have an open forum with congress and senate, to then decide the best, healthiest, and most logical path forward when making or ammending legislative law. the first step to doing this is by allowing ALL the peoples voices to be heard, and the only way to do that is to have multiple polical parties.

 

the Tea Party is a great example of this. they emerged as a force among Americans, absoluty disgusted with the current polical climate. so the formed a large mass of members, but to make any impact, they had to say, hey we are Democrats, or we are Republicans, as our system only allows these to political parties to have voice in representation. Being they were so anti Obama, but not neccessarily anti democrats, means they went to the blue team, out of opposition. Im betting if we had the ability to create, or form a new party to join in the political arena, we would now have, the Jackasses (Democrats), the Pigs (Republicans) and the Cows (Tea Party).

 

and even then, none of these Political Parties would represent me, or my polical views.

 

out of all the possibilities, Ron Paul is the best option. We need to completlely restructure the current government and polical system. I Dont fully agree with all his ideas or views, but at the heart of the matter, he most certainly reflects my views in most of the hardcore issues facing America today.

 

My biggest concern for his Presidental chances are his lack luster oratory abilities. he says a lot of great things, but the way they are said, and the occasional stammering while speaking, shines a light of Carteresque charecteristics on him. meaning he sometimes sounds like Jimmy Carter did during his campain. kind of aloof on occasions. but being a great oritor, does not make a great leader. I only need to say Hitler to prove this is a fact.

 

I would bet President Ron Paul would work HARD to remove the 2 party system only, as im sure he also understands exactly how this mandate has helped lead to the current political travisty we have going on.

[thanks2]

Dems in office ....... want their hands in everything...,hell give em a few years i wont be able to bunny muffin in my own toilet with out em trying to get their hands in that too.

 

TOOOO late, Toilet regulation requiring "low-flow" toilets was passed by a democratically controlled house and senate and signed by Clinton in 1994. Not that the party matters.

 

Land of the free to flush the toilet three times to make sure it is clean. My poor uncle who is on large amounts of pain killers can not keep his toilet from plugging. Sucks to be on opiates with a low flow toilet.

[JabberStalky]

The fact is Ron Paul is a libertarian. To argue against him because is is running under the mainstream ticket and moniker of republican is disingenuous. The label doesn't matter what matters is the actions taken by the politician. Ron Paul won't win because he isn't mainstream and no genuine republican will vote for him in the primary. However, he would have zero chance if he ran as an independent or as a libertarian so he chose the republican route to up his chances a little. That doesn't make him a republican ideologically. So let's stop arguing about the label you affix to the politician and let's instead argue about the man or woman the politician is in real life.

[mosshowd]

Democrat or Republican hardly matter any more.

 

i dont recall when it was we dropped to the 2 party system. i want to say durring Regans terms, perhaps it was Carters. This has been by far the most negative and most detramental facet of our American Politcal System.

 

Many Many legislators were against this policy when it was first introduced, that is until they realized how much power it gave the 2 partys. Then, pretty much the only legislators against this policy, were those that were not part of the Democratic, or Republican party.

 

this one mandate, moving to the 2 party system, has single handidly split the Country.

 

you can NOT work for a group of humans as large as the American Popultion, with only 2 sides of view.

 

how well would our supreme courts work if their were only 2 justices? we have an Odd number for a reason, so their can not be a deadlock, their must be a movement forward, good or bad, but a resolution wil be made. Additionally, the 2 party system, realistically only speaks for roughy 40 percent of the population. the fact is, the Majority of US Citizens consider themselves neither Democrat Or Republican, but these are the only two partys i have to chose from? really? what happened to the idea that competition drove things forward, positively?

 

 

yet, in the largest Polical System in the world, in a country that touts its Dynamic Diversity of Peoples, has only a 2 party system to speak the minds of everyone? simply put, it can not. the 2 party system needs to be repealed, and returned to the system that allowed for multiple polical parties. couple that with the elimination of ALL Lobbyist.

 

Government should not be getting advice on making laws, or regulations from the people hired by industry to sell them the product of the day. Government, needs to have Scientists, Scholars, Educators, and non Associated Industry Experts aquireing and providing the un adulterated information needed, for our government to work in the best interest of the people. and these folks then have an open forum with congress and senate, to then decide the best, healthiest, and most logical path forward when making or ammending legislative law. the first step to doing this is by allowing ALL the peoples voices to be heard, and the only way to do that is to have multiple polical parties.

 

the Tea Party is a great example of this. they emerged as a force among Americans, absoluty disgusted with the current polical climate. so the formed a large mass of members, but to make any impact, they had to say, hey we are Democrats, or we are Republicans, as our system only allows these to political parties to have voice in representation. Being they were so anti Obama, but not neccessarily anti democrats, means they went to the blue team, out of opposition. Im betting if we had the ability to create, or form a new party to join in the political arena, we would now have, the Jackasses (Democrats), the Pigs (Republicans) and the Cows (Tea Party).

 

and even then, none of these Political Parties would represent me, or my polical views.

 

out of all the possibilities, Ron Paul is the best option. We need to completlely restructure the current government and polical system. I Dont fully agree with all his ideas or views, but at the heart of the matter, he most certainly reflects my views in most of the hardcore issues facing America today.

 

My biggest concern for his Presidental chances are his lack luster oratory abilities. he says a lot of great things, but the way they are said, and the occasional stammering while speaking, shines a light of Carteresque charecteristics on him. meaning he sometimes sounds like Jimmy Carter did during his campain. kind of aloof on occasions. but being a great oritor, does not make a great leader. I only need to say Hitler to prove this is a fact.

 

I would bet President Ron Paul would work HARD to remove the 2 party system only, as im sure he also understands exactly how this mandate has helped lead to the current political travisty we have going on.

 

 

 

 

 

TIMMAHH

 

Well said my good man! Well said!

 

[TheBeagle]

the statements above are very true Im not a rep or Dem the way i Vote is based on what I think would make this Country move forward. I watched the rep debate 3 times before i made my choice and out of all the people running I chose RP because of the fact MOST of what he said makes sense to me. In fact other reps I found key things aswell like Newt's boarder policy I think is spot on and Cain's way of thinking about Instead of tryin to Rid of certain things ...keep them in place and overhaul them as far as FEMA it's a disaster that IMO should be gone or overhauled,Michelle Bach on the 12 year old vac's was spot on. that's just to name a few, But as far as i see it RP won the debate for me because out of every ?'s asked 95% of his response's were spot on, sure he stuttered on a few,but that has nothing to do with anything , maybe he just not a good speaker as the other prob due to the fact he is prob the oldest cat there, I don't care if he stutter's out aslong as his point was made clear in which it was. Obama has done nothing... anyone watch the video. about the jobs act? if you did notice how many times he said "PASS THIS BILL" he is using the repeating tactic Tryin to instill PASS THIS BILL into the peoples subconscious. 45 seconds video

 

http://bcove.me/8hlvri6g

 

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/obama-makes-plea-to-pass-this-bill-100-plus-times/

 

100+ times?????

[mosshowd]

the statements above are very true Im not a rep or Dem the way i Vote is based on what I think would make this Country move forward. I watched the rep debate 3 times before i made my choice and out of all the people running I chose RP because of the fact MOST of what he said makes sense to me. In fact other reps I found key things aswell like Newt's boarder policy I think is spot on and Cain's way of thinking about Instead of tryin to Rid of certain things ...keep them in place and overhaul them as far as FEMA it's a disaster that IMO should be gone or overhauled,Michelle Bach on the 12 year old vac's was spot on. that's just to name a few, But as far as i see it RP won the debate for me because out of every ?'s asked 95% of his response's were spot on, sure he stuttered on a few,but that has nothing to do with anything , maybe he just not a good speaker as the other prob due to the fact he is prob the oldest cat there, I don't care if he stutter's out aslong as his point was made clear in which it was. Obama has done nothing... anyone watch the video. about the jobs act? if you did notice how many times he said "PASS THIS BILL" he is using the repeating tactic Tryin to instill PASS THIS BILL into the peoples subconscious. 45 seconds video

 

http://bcove.me/8hlvri6g

 

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/obama-makes-plea-to-pass-this-bill-100-plus-times/

 

100+ times?????

 

THE OBAMA WAY!

 

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MOMONEY,MOMONEY, MOMONEY, MOMONEY!MOMONEY,MOMONEY, MOMONEY, MOMONEY!MOMONEY,MOMONEY, MOMONEY, MOMONEY!

 

SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SEPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SEPEND, SPEND, SPEND,

SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SEPEND, SPEND, SPEND,SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SEPEND, SPEND, SPEND,

SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SEPEND, SPEND, SPEND,SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SPEND, SEPEND, SPEND, SPEND,

 

THIS ADMINISTRATION WILL END UP IN JAIL

 

IN THE END THE TRUTH WILL GET THEM ALL LOCKED UP!

 

WHAT A WASTE OF OUR MONEY, RESOURCES AND TIME.

 

JUST MY OPENION!

 

DAN

[Romen]

OK...He gets elected and then he does away with FEMA, The EPA, The VA, The Department of Education, SEC, FDA, NRC, and dozens of other departments that do really good things for a very large and populous country..ours!

 

We've been sold down the river for over forty years do to corporate America and foreign corporations massive financial influences in American politics that has only one goal...PROFIT at any cost.

 

 

The first part about the "good" agencies is false. These agencies are not good , efficient or in our best interests. The become tyranny by proxy , enforcing regulations in lieu of LAWS.

 

The second part about corporate america is true, and the true root of the problem . They are the ones who manipulate the politicians who control the ABC agencies, who then enforce corporate policies under the guise of government authority.

 

This is the full spectrum operation, and seeing those two things as one good and one bad shows how well the controlled mainstream media propaganda works .

This is what Dr. Paul is trying to get through to people. The establishment republicans and establishment democrats are bought and paid for by the same people.

Many people identify and agree about whats wrong with our society but are mislead as to the existence of the true puppet masters and so they are locked in the false left/right game. Republicans and democrats blame each other while they cover up for the real rulers , the corporate masters.

Obama and Bush are more alike in policy than they are different. Where they differ is in their brand of false rhetoric that their followers eat like pablum to spew outward at each other.

 

Bush and Obama both love:

 

WALL STREET

THE BIG BANKS

GLOBALISM

OFF SHORING JOBS

THE POLICE STATE /MILITARY INDUSTRIAL COMPLEX (IT'S GROWING)

FALSE FLAG TERROR

ILLEGAL WARS

ILLEGAL IMPRISONMENT AND TORTURE

VIOLATION OF THE 1ST,2ND,4TH,5TH,6TH,8TH,9TH AND 10TH AMENDMENTS TO THE CONSTITUTION

AND VARIOUS AND SUNDRY HIGH CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS TOO NUMEROUS TO ENUMERATE

 

and so Bush=Obama=Perry=Romney= Status Quo = a fast ride to third world america

 

That's why Dr. Ron Paul for an end to change we never needed or wanted.

[+Silverblue]

What was that comment about socialistic communism or something like that? I thought socialism and communism were different and distinct enough to be clearly opposite. The way I remember it is, communism is when the govt controls/owns everything, socialism is something else. Terms really get confusing sometimes.

 

I know RP is for legalization, though I don't know much else about him, 'cept he's a Libertarian, so I came here to learn what he's about. What an interesting discussion! It dos seem that there's not much difference between the repubs and dems anymore, and it does seem true that our country's being ruled by corporate interests, which include banks, military, insurance companies, and definitely big pharma. Corporations have more rights than people- something's terribly wrong here. The day that happened was the start of the downfall of our country. Our founders must be spinning in their graves.

 

I will have to learn more about RP before making a decision.

 

Sb