FLOWERING ANNUALS Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I AM SETTING UP A NEW ROOM WITH A 4X8 FLOOD AND DRAIN TABLE.I HAVE A 110 GALLON RES.1 1000W FOR VEG 2 1000W FOR FLOWER.1000GPH PUMP.I NORMALLY AM A FULL ORGANIC GROWER BUT WANT EXPERIENCE WITH FLOOD/DRAIN AND HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.I HAVE SOME DYNAGROW NUTES THAT I WILL BE STARTING WITH BUT WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOME (ORGANIC GOODNESS).LOOKING FOR ADVICE OR IDEAS ON THIS PROJECT.THX IN ADVANCE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nix Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I AM SETTING UP A NEW ROOM WITH A 4X8 FLOOD AND DRAIN TABLE.I HAVE A 110 GALLON RES.1 1000W FOR VEG 2 1000W FOR FLOWER.1000GPH PUMP.I NORMALLY AM A FULL ORGANIC GROWER BUT WANT EXPERIENCE WITH FLOOD/DRAIN AND HAVE THE EQUIPMENT.I HAVE SOME DYNAGROW NUTES THAT I WILL BE STARTING WITH BUT WOULD LIKE TO ADD SOME (ORGANIC GOODNESS).LOOKING FOR ADVICE OR IDEAS ON THIS PROJECT.THX IN ADVANCE! You would get more replies if you didn't shout. Just a FYI. Don't use organic nutes in hydro unless you have zero light leaks and a biofilter. Even then it is not recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOWERING ANNUALS Posted November 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 You would get more replies if you didn't shout. Just a FYI. Don't use organic nutes in hydro unless you have zero light leaks and a biofilter. Even then it is not recommended. sorry if someone is upset about my caps lock! any experience with earth juice line in hydro? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongHairBri Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 if your using DynaGro nutes you don't need ANYTHING else. you have found the holy grail!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOWERING ANNUALS Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 Dang, thats all the info i can get out of you guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeyoil Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 I suggest purchasing Jorge Cervantes, Marijuana Horticulture Medical Grower's Bible. Great info there. Also read existing posts in the grow section. There are other MM sites that you can browse for tons of info. This is a great place for specific questions. Not so good for general questions, like yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOWERING ANNUALS Posted December 5, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2011 I've read every book I can find to buy and have been to Oaksterdam.I was just hoping for some comments from someone with experience on a similar project.Also I have decided to use Dutchmaster(gold)nutes if anyone has experience with those.thx! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shishka Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 What media will you be using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruztydj Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I run flood and drain what ya want to know ? You prolly wont be running it like me but can still help ya with a few questions. I run 28 gal rez per table and have ran coco and soiless and soiless being the better and safer of the 2 mediums. Coco works dam good too tho ya have to flood more often. I run 1 gal smart pots at 12 plants per 4 x 4 table at 3ft tall plants at finish. Rez temps at 70 degrees, ph I let drift from 5.6 to 6.2 but keep it most times about 5.8. PPMS and or EC is 1800 early bloom then down to 1200 to 1400 for the rest of bloom and last week or so at about 500ppms or at just plain water at zero. I run several air stones per rez too and change rez's out every 2 to 3 weeks. 28 gal rez gets me 2 weeks before needing topped off with fresh nutes if to lazy to change rez's out. I run g&h maxibloom with extras for my nutes in bloom and maxigro with extras in veg. Google lucas formula for yer nutes and you'll be just fine. I always run my ppms/ec hot during the first 2 weeks of bloom with a bit of bio marine fish for extra N when they need it for stretch and then it's just normal low mid ppms thru out rest of bloom to week 7 then a bit of koolbloom on top of the maxi bloom to harden them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOWERING ANNUALS Posted December 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 What media will you be using? hydroton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOWERING ANNUALS Posted December 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I run flood and drain what ya want to know ? You prolly wont be running it like me but can still help ya with a few questions. I run 28 gal rez per table and have ran coco and soiless and soiless being the better and safer of the 2 mediums. Coco works dam good too tho ya have to flood more often. I run 1 gal smart pots at 12 plants per 4 x 4 table at 3ft tall plants at finish. Rez temps at 70 degrees, ph I let drift from 5.6 to 6.2 but keep it most times about 5.8. PPMS and or EC is 1800 early bloom then down to 1200 to 1400 for the rest of bloom and last week or so at about 500ppms or at just plain water at zero. I run several air stones per rez too and change rez's out every 2 to 3 weeks. 28 gal rez gets me 2 weeks before needing topped off with fresh nutes if to lazy to change rez's out. I run g&h maxibloom with extras for my nutes in bloom and maxigro with extras in veg. Google lucas formula for yer nutes and you'll be just fine. I always run my ppms/ec hot during the first 2 weeks of bloom with a bit of bio marine fish for extra N when they need it for stretch and then it's just normal low mid ppms thru out rest of bloom to week 7 then a bit of koolbloom on top of the maxi bloom to harden them up. thx for info! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruztydj Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Flood then at least 5 times a day or say every 2.5 to 3 hrs and ya should be good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kruztydj Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Yeah the moxbloom don't smell either but now my bio fish does smell like fish but I don't use much of that in bloom, just a lil in early first bloom and then at only 5ml per gallon of water. This to depends on how loaded on N I make them in veg. If dark waxy green and just on the edge then I don't use it at all in bloom. When I switched to f&d I wanted a nute line that was super easy to use and stable. Maxibloom fit the bill and works very well. Ph will rise a bit at first but will settle and stay put the rest of the rez's run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LansingAreaCaregiver Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I'd recommend adding a 2nd smaller pump to circulate the water in the reservoir, keep things moving. Also, a weekly shot of h2o2 in the reservoir makes for happy ladies! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOWERING ANNUALS Posted December 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 I'd recommend adding a 2nd smaller pump to circulate the water in the reservoir, keep things moving. Also, a weekly shot of h2o2 in the reservoir makes for happy ladies! Do you think i would need the second pump when using 4 giant air stones hooked to heavy duty pump?Dutchmaster nute line has a product called Zone that is supposed to kill any nasties that h2o2 would kill and it says not to use h202 and zone together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pergamum362 Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Organics are no good in Hydro.You wont get the benifits of hydro with organics. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LansingAreaCaregiver Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Do you think i would need the second pump when using 4 giant air stones hooked to heavy duty pump?Dutchmaster nute line has a product called Zone that is supposed to kill any nasties that h2o2 would kill and it says not to use h202 and zone together. With 4 large air stones and a heavy pump, you probably wouldn't need another water pump for circulation. I use fox farms which is pretty soupy and likes to settle a lot, so I need a lot of movement in my reservoir. As far as Zone, I'm not familiar with the product, so I can't really say. The nice thing about h202 is that it not only kills the nasties, it hyper-oxygenates the reservoir water, which the roots love. Of course, with pushing a ton of air with air stones, you probably don't need to oxygenate your water anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nix Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 H202 isn't a long term solution as it dissolves quickly (in about a day). So you have to keep adding it every several days. Besides killing bad bacteria it also kills good bacteria. I wouldn't use it with organics. Switch to compost tea. It not only keeps roots clean from slime, it will help your plants take up nutrients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOWERING ANNUALS Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Does anyone have advice on res temp issue's? My res is 110 gal and will be sitting 6" off basement floor on wheels.all info I've read says 60-75.Are you needing heaters/coolers this time of year?I'm hoping the lights keep it in that range during day and water keeps room warm at night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeyoil Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Ebb and Flow is not sensitive to rez temps because the flood only happens 4 or 5 times per day, for only 15 minutes each time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOWERING ANNUALS Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Ebb and Flow is not sensitive to rez temps because the flood only happens 4 or 5 times per day, for only 15 minutes each time. it seems that if 75 degree root area was flooded with 50 degree water it would shock roots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nix Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 Does anyone have advice on res temp issue's? My res is 110 gal and will be sitting 6" off basement floor on wheels.all info I've read says 60-75.Are you needing heaters/coolers this time of year?I'm hoping the lights keep it in that range during day and water keeps room warm at night. If you res is too hot: - Move it outside of your grow room and make the pump tubing longer to reach your plants. - Get a larger res as it will take longer for the pump to heat up the volume. - Add a two liter bottle of water that's been frozen and switch it out when it melts. If your res is to cold: - Move it into the grow area under the lights. - Have your lights turn on at night when it's coldest. - Add an aquarium heater. There are cheap ones that get hotter as the water gets colder so you don't have to adjust them. Main thing is, if it's not broke, don't fix it. MJ can handle a little cold water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLOWERING ANNUALS Posted December 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 If you res is too hot: - Move it outside of your grow room and make the pump tubing longer to reach your plants. - Get a larger res as it will take longer for the pump to heat up the volume. - Add a two liter bottle of water that's been frozen and switch it out when it melts. If your res is to cold: - Move it into the grow area under the lights. - Have your lights turn on at night when it's coldest. - Add an aquarium heater. There are cheap ones that get hotter as the water gets colder so you don't have to adjust them. Main thing is, if it's not broke, don't fix it. MJ can handle a little cold water. the main focus of the res temp question was just to see if u guys were haveing any problems. thanks for all the responses! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeyoil Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 it seems that if 75 degree root area was flooded with 50 degree water it would shock roots. Well, yeah. I assume you are not keeping your rez outside. If your room temperature is 50 degrees, then you have other problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LansingAreaCaregiver Posted December 7, 2011 Report Share Posted December 7, 2011 I keep rez heaters in mine this time of year, but that's because they sit directly on a cement floor. I keep it about 65. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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