thatoneartist Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 are they in Supreme Court yet? how come you can't see my original post of this? the "view new content" link won't show anything past 5:35 today lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timmahh Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 nothing i have heard myself on the King Case recently. if you click view new content, it will usually only show the new items since your last visit. but if you choose the view Active content, it should show the last 24 hrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatoneartist Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 nothing i have heard myself on the King Case recently. if you click view new content, it will usually only show the new items since your last visit. but if you choose the view Active content, it should show the last 24 hrs. thanks. someone let me know. I have no idea where that case is right now so if anyone knows anything on it please reply Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpinn Posted November 10, 2011 Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 King case is at the point where my attorney's have filed our briefs and we are waiting on the prosecution to file theirs . Dont expect to go to oral arguments til after the first of the year . They are saying I wont have a decision til July 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatoneartist Posted November 10, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 10, 2011 King case is at the point where my attorney's have filed our briefs and we are waiting on the prosecution to file theirs . Dont expect to go to oral arguments til after the first of the year . They are saying I wont have a decision til July 2012 so your at MSC already? Are they letting you use your medical defense there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpinn Posted November 11, 2011 Report Share Posted November 11, 2011 I'm sure they will be using the words Medical Marijuana at my Supreme Court oral argument so your at MSC already? Are they letting you use your medical defense there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatoneartist Posted November 12, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2011 I'm sure they will be using the words Medical Marijuana at my Supreme Court oral argument but as of right now the appellate court has ruled you can't say it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatoneartist Posted November 13, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 13, 2011 Can you use your MM defense at supreme court? Or is that what your taking to the MSC? the order to appeal you not using your mm defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandtorey Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 (edited) i can't answer that but with are case we took it out of the MSC because as of right now we are able to use the medical defense and we want to keep that part at all cost and you never no what they might do at the MSC IMO the only good thing that has come out of the C.O.A is that you don't need a card but you have to have your Rec Edited November 14, 2011 by bobandtorey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatoneartist Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 i can't answer that but with are case we took it out of the MSC because as of right now we are able to use the medical defense and we want to keep that part at all cost and you never no what they might do at the MSC IMO the only good thing that has come out of the C.O.A is that you don't need a card but you have to have your Rec So someone in the court of appeals was not guilty after not having their card at the time of the arrest but got a recommendation after? Or they had a recommendation at the time of the arrest but not their card? From what I hear from some of the honest lawyers that have $ to gain if I take my case to MSC is that MSC very rarely change the rulings. My case is right on with King's case and personally I don't want to do jail time. Do people usually do time for growing 67 plants? I mean the grey area of a locked, enclosed facility hopefully will be taken into account if I'm found guilty and I don't make a deal...But I think I'm going to ask for a deal since the appellate court recently denied my request to be able to use my medical defense. I doubt they will make a deal with me since they have everything they need...but i want to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawyercaregiver Posted November 14, 2011 Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 So someone in the court of appeals was not guilty after not having their card at the time of the arrest but got a recommendation after? Or they had a recommendation at the time of the arrest but not their card? From what I hear from some of the honest lawyers that have $ to gain if I take my case to MSC is that MSC very rarely change the rulings. My case is right on with King's case and personally I don't want to do jail time. Do people usually do time for growing 67 plants? I mean the grey area of a locked, enclosed facility hopefully will be taken into account if I'm found guilty and I don't make a deal...But I think I'm going to ask for a deal since the appellate court recently denied my request to be able to use my medical defense. I doubt they will make a deal with me since they have everything they need...but i want to try. Before Medical Marijuana saw people get 4 years in prison for less than 10 plants (both people I saw had 3-4 felony priors and were black males in Oakland County). I am pretty sure the current law per the COA is you have to have a card (or the proof of application, cancelled check, and the 20 day waiting period) in order to use the medical defense. Unless you were growing outside, and this is still being litigated, I don't see how 'locked enclosed facility' is ambiguous. In short, 67 plants is most definitely worth taking to the Michigan Supreme Court if you were fully in compliance with the MMMA. If not, God help you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatoneartist Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 Before Medical Marijuana saw people get 4 years in prison for less than 10 plants (both people I saw had 3-4 felony priors and were black males in Oakland County). I am pretty sure the current law per the COA is you have to have a card (or the proof of application, cancelled check, and the 20 day waiting period) in order to use the medical defense. Unless you were growing outside, and this is still being litigated, I don't see how 'locked enclosed facility' is ambiguous. In short, 67 plants is most definitely worth taking to the Michigan Supreme Court if you were fully in compliance with the MMMA. If not, God help you... ya my plants were in my basement and not locked up other then the house that was locked up. Therefore they are saying I was not in compliance. The maximum sentence is 2 to 4 years, so I doubt I'll get the maximum especially since I thought I was in compliance and the enclosed facility is really grey area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatoneartist Posted November 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 14, 2011 and i have no priors Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawyercaregiver Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 (edited) I think I read in the Midwest cultivator of a woman who was over and received probation in Oakland county. You will be fine, God willing. On second thought maybe you should be aiming for a 7411 plea? Yah I know they never give that for cultivation but this is a little different. Worth exploring. Edited November 19, 2011 by lawyercaregiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandtorey Posted November 19, 2011 Report Share Posted November 19, 2011 so you must think he will lose? we were their(supreme Court) and got out of their i don't think any one can win up their but i do hope he does Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawyercaregiver Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 so you must think he will lose? we were their(supreme Court) and got out of their i don't think any one can win up their but i do hope he does Just saw this- NO, I don't think you will lose. I think you have a good chance of losing in Oakland county but I certainly don't think it, I pray otherwise. I am saying I think the very worst that will happen is probation if you do lose (assuming no priors etc). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie313 Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 good luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 what ever happened to section 8 of our law? b) A person may assert the medical purpose for using marihuana in a motion to dismiss, and the charges shall be dismissed following an evidentiary hearing where the person shows the elements listed in subsection (a). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild Bill Posted December 3, 2011 Report Share Posted December 3, 2011 what ever happened to section 8 of our law? b) A person may assert the medical purpose for using marihuana in a motion to dismiss, and the charges shall be dismissed following an evidentiary hearing where the person shows the elements listed in subsection (a). It's too gray, I can't read that section! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpinn Posted December 20, 2011 Report Share Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) Got a copy of the AG's briefs today.A court date will be forthcoming soon PLZ. Edited December 20, 2011 by Kingpinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingpinn Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 (edited) Was notified that my Court Case is Jan 11th. Not sure if it is posted on the docket yet Edited December 22, 2011 by Kingpinn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandtorey Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 what ever happened to section 8 of our law? b) A person may assert the medical purpose for using marihuana in a motion to dismiss, and the charges shall be dismissed following an evidentiary hearing where the person shows the elements listed in subsection (a). it did work for us Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatoneartist Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 wait...what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobandtorey Posted December 21, 2011 Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 wait...what? Thats right it did work but only for case dismissed we were all so happen back then but now well you know that story Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatoneartist Posted December 21, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2011 Thats right it did work but only for case dismissed we were all so happen back then but now well you know that story oh...ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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