Medicinal Value

[CedarSpringsCG]

I found this and thought it was really interesting that the National Institute for Cancer Research, an agency of the US Government, recognizes that cannabis has medicinal value... Taken from a top 10 list, but I really like how this was worded...

 

A very high-profile battle over scientific integrity played itself out on the webpage of Cancer.gov, the government's site for the National Cancer Institute. It began when the site surprisingly updated its summary page on cannabis and cannabinoids.

 

 

The potential benefits of medicinal Cannabis for people living with cancer include antiemetic effects, appetite stimulation, pain relief, and improved sleep. In the practice of integrative oncology, the health care provider may recommend medicinal Cannabis not only for symptom management but also for its possible direct antitumor effect.

 

Cannabinoids may cause antitumor effects by various mechanisms, including induction of cell death, inhibition of cell growth, and inhibition of tumor angiogenesis and metastasis. [9-11] Cannabinoids appear to kill tumor cells but do not affect their nontransformed counterparts and may even protect them from cell death. These compounds have been shown to induce apoptosis in glioma cells in culture and induce regression of glioma tumors in mice and rats.

 

 

Then it appeared that somebody pressured NCI to revise its update to better align with the government's prohibition of cannabis. The paragraphs above were removed and replaced with:

 

 

The potential benefits of medicinal Cannabis for people living with cancer include antiemetic effects, appetite stimulation, pain relief, and improved sleep. Though no relevant surveys of practice patterns exist, it appears that physicians caring for cancer patients who prescribe medicinal Cannabis predominantly do so for symptom management.

 

Then NCI updated the "clinical studies" portion of the website to again highlight the anti-tumoral effects:

 

 

One study in mice and rats suggested that cannabinoids may have a protective effect against the development of certain types of tumors.

 

Decreased incidences of benign tumors(polyps and adenomas) in other organs(mammary gland, uterus, pituitary, testis, and pancreas)were also noted in the rats.

 

Cannabinoids may cause antitumor effects by various mechanisms, including induction of cell death, inhibition of cell growth, and inhibition of tumorangiogenesis and metastasis.

 

Cannabinoids appear to kill tumor cells but do not affect their nontransformed counterparts and may even protect them from cell death.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/russ-belville/top-ten-cannabis-science-_b_1175048.html

 

How can one arm, a scientific arm of the government say there is Medicinal Value, and the executive arm say there isn't? This should AT LEAST make it a schedule 2...

 

Cedar

[xmaseve]

That should be filed under the heading "tell us something we didn't know." PB has been telling us for years that it cures cancer and I am living proof. The problem is that PB is one lone Dr and because he didn't fall in line with the group and play nice they dont listen to him. He is constantly doing scientific studies that prove that it cures cancer. PB is the the Dr Kevorkian of cannbis. Kevorkian got no respect and he was light years ahead of his time and his progressive approach is what made him unaccepted. Same with PB. Kevorkian was a pathologist but died with his license revoked and was unable to practice and make money. I don't know if PB lost his license when the courts went on their witch hunt for him but all I can say is I owe him a huge debt of gratitude for his work that he was doing even before it was legal and he took all that risk for us. I can think of other leaders through history that took risk for us and ended up even dying for their risks. The one I am thinking of died more than 2000 years ago and he is still thought of as a great man today. Not many people can stay in the news that long but I guarantee you than long after we all are gone PB will remain a name that people look back on as a major pioneer in human health. Kevorkain could have made his millions if he would have just shut his mouth and worked as a pathologist until retired but he believed in a cause and gave up everything for it. PB has doen the same. I still don't think people here realize the magnatude of this and that we have a real live hero in our midsts.

[CedarSpringsCG]

Well PB wasn't the first person to use it as a cancer cure... regardless of preceived beliefs that it can cure cancer, this thread was asking why is it a schedule 1 drug if the government acknowledges it has medicinal value.

[flyinstringbean]

Ya think the cotton Industrys got a hand in this one??? Me Too! Our Corrupt Govt. does what its told to do by the MONEY.Nothin else Matters.

[xmaseve]

Well PB wasn't the first person to use it as a cancer cure... regardless of preceived beliefs that it can cure cancer, this thread was asking why is it a schedule 1 drug if the government acknowledges it has medicinal value.

Because the govt agency charged with scheduling it makes its own determinations independent of this other agency. The govt isn't just some big fat man (like me ) sitting there it is a multi-headed serpent. Many brains and many different decisions.

[xmaseve]

And PB maybe wasn't the 1st to use it as a cancer cure but he was the 1st to combine it with secret ingredients that makes it a stronger cancer cure. You need to recognize that my friend. Thanks, X

[wingnut]

If marijuana prohibition were ended, there would be no need for a massive DEA, but an end to marijuana prohibition requires DEA permission! It’s a clear conflict of interest.

[CedarSpringsCG]

And PB maybe wasn't the 1st to use it as a cancer cure but he was the 1st to combine it with secret ingredients that makes it a stronger cancer cure. You need to recognize that my friend. Thanks, X

Actually I don't think he was the first to do that either. And they aren't really secret, lots of people know them, and without any real scientific study which he hasn't done, how can you say that it isn't the cannabinoids alone that cure the cancer? Rick Simpson says his oil alone cures cancer, and does an outstanding job, so how can you say that PB's profit oil is better than RSO?

 

I think you need to recognise that PB, under a veil of compassion, is in it for the money. He has finally started admitting that, which gained much respect by me, but do you really think he is keeping it all secret because it works? No he keeps it secret so he can charge more for it, why do you think he was pushing to have it in use on every patient in every hospice in MI? For the betterment of the patients? No, because he is the sole supplier and would make millions.

 

PB even swears that it isn't the ingredients alone, as other people use the same ones, it is the method in which he makes it. But when asked for an ingredient list beccause I have a patient who is severely allergic to things, so I need to know what is in everything before they take it, he won't tell me. I am not asking for the process to make it, not asking for how much of each thing goes in. I even at one point offered a non-disclosure agreement. Hell he could give me a list of 10 things in his oil and 10 things that aren't, a list of 20, and I couldn't replicate it because I keep trying to put crap in it he doesn't, but I could verify that the patient would be safe to have it. But he won't. He says, no, this is his retirement fund, PB oil is, and refuses to help out a really sick patient, compassion be damned, he has to protect his profit over a sick patient.

 

It's things like his partner swearing Litroglow lites were better than HIDs, but offered no photo evidence, no side by side grows, nothing, just his word, and then you find out they (PB and BH) are the sole supplier in MI of litroglow bulbs and litrogrow nutes... Even when people used litrglow bulbs and had proof they weren't all they were cracked up to be, those people were just "trolls" trying to prevent sales. In fact, those people weren't knocking them anymore than giving a first hand experience of the actual product and results.

 

I am glad he helped you. I hope he continues to help patients around MI. Some day I might even try some PB oil. I personally have nothing against his oil, just the marketing methods. But PB says, he has to protect his retirement.

 

So, no I won't recognize that his oil is a stronger cancer cure than RSO alone, because there are no side by side studies, no lab tests, nothing that would give me any real evidence what you say is true. I can put RSO in a cookie, say it has magic scret ingredients and can cure cancer better than PB oil, and if one person gets cured, say here is proof... yet in reality where I live, it was simply the RSO doing it's work.

 

Now, as I was saying, our own government says MJ has medicinal value, but catagorize it as no medicinal value whatsoever. Hypocrites...