Caregiver And Patient?

[BirdHunter]

What if you are a patient and designate someone else to be your caregiver, but someone else designates you to be thiers?

 

Like my wife and I designate each other to be the other one's caregiver?

 

Now your patient card says "not permitted to posses plants" but your caregiver card says "permitted to posses plants".

 

Are you or aren't you?

 

Furthermore, is a caregiver immune from the "bona fied doctor" argument that screwed Bob and Torry?

 

could this strategy be a way to avoid the "Redden trap"?

[Kingdiamond]

No because you each become caregiver/patients you still have to have a recertification each year to legaly use medical marijuana .

[BirdHunter]

Different way to phrase this question:

 

In Bob and Torry's trial, the prosecutor has successfully gotten the judge to ban any use of a section 8 defense in front of the jury, because he ruled that the doctor-patient relationship was not bona fied.

 

Has this happened to any caregivers? I don't think it makes sense to make this argument for a caregiver.

 

Maybe we should all designate each other as caregivers to "double up" our chances of getting a section 8.

 

Comments?

[Hempcheff]

you are allowed to possess 12 plants for each legitimate card that has it printed on the back as they are patient specific. they dont cancel each other out. just name each other as a caregiver, but retain your plant rights and youll be fine. you dont automatically lose possession if you sign a caregiver.

 

as far as a caregiver immunity, no, the caregiver has no requirements to be certified by a doctor. furthermore, there is no stand alone caregiver application, a patient needs to declare a caregiver so there are no solo caregivers in Michigan without patients.

What if you are a patient and designate someone else to be your caregiver, but someone else designates you to be thiers?

 

Like my wife and I designate each other to be the other one's caregiver?

 

Now your patient card says "not permitted to posses plants" but your caregiver card says "permitted to posses plants".

 

Are you or aren't you?

 

Furthermore, is a caregiver immune from the "bona fied doctor" argument that screwed Bob and Torry?

 

could this strategy be a way to avoid the "Redden trap"?

 

 

 

[BirdHunter]

 

 

as far as a caregiver immunity, no, the caregiver has no requirements to be certified by a doctor. furthermore, there is no stand alone caregiver application, a patient needs to declare a caregiver so there are no solo caregivers in Michigan without patients.

 

 

Ok, so if Bob and Torrey had designated each other "caregiver", would they be able to exercise a section 8 under their caregiver card?

 

(The judge decided they could not exercise a section 8 on their medical recommendation because they did not have a bona fied relationship with the physician.)

[Hempcheff]

caregiver status has nothing to do with a bona fide patient doctor relationship

[Hempcheff]

Im hardly in a position to discuss mr. redden's case, but if i know bob, he'll chime in on this, lol

[+JuztBudz]

Being a caregiver has absolutely nothing to do with the doctor/patient relationship. If you have a valid card that allows you to be a caregiver, you should not be involved if and when a judge decrees that there is not bona-fide doctor/patient relationship. The card is issued by the state and any judge who allows a caregiver to be harassed in this situation would be one crazy whompsass...IMHO. Peace ... j.b.

[Croppled1]

Being a caregiver has absolutely nothing to do with the doctor/patient relationship. If you have a valid card that allows you to be a caregiver, you should not be involved if and when a judge decrees that there is not bona-fide doctor/patient relationship. The card is issued by the state and any judge who allows a caregiver to be harassed in this situation would be one crazy whompsass...IMHO. Peace ... j.b.

 

Amen the Doctor is the gatekeeper and the State licenses them it makes no sense to jail a patient because a State Judge doesn't approve of the Job LARA does . Every one of my cannabis examinations was hands on and thorough . It was helpful to go to a specialist who studied the Act and was familar with cannabis . Again none of my Doctors hospital affiliations supports writting recommendations .In fact some places had specific policy against it . I am blessed to have as much support as I do . Thank you to those whom help , have open minds , and support patient choice .

Edited January 31, 2012 by Croppled1