AKenewell Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 President Obama was met last Monday in Oakland with a crowd composed of well over 800 furious cannabis activists, patients, and people who are simply fed up with Obama’s continuous war on people who choice to use cannabis for medical or recreational purposes. People don’t often get the chance to see the President in person in Oakland, but they definitely knew how to take advantage of his fundraising pit stop to give him a piece of their mind. The debate between medical and recreational cannabis users was put to rest on Monday in light of the Federal government’s recent decision to go after Harborside Health Center, which paid $1.1 million in taxes to the state of California last year, and also happens to be the ideal model for a legitimate medical cannabis dispensary operating within the bounds of California law. The important thing to remember is that recreational cannabis users don’t want the government to take away patients’ medicine just as medicinal users don’t want to see recreational users go to jail. As a young activist who got involved with the drug policy reform movement four years ago, I’ve heard my fair share of bickering back and forth regarding how we should be taking on the government and all of their failed federal policies and laws, but rarely is there a consensus. There has always been tension between the medical and recreational cannabis communities, which to my knowledge has yet to result in anything positive or productive for either side. The rally was the dawning of a new era of activists that have caught sight of a common goal, to tell Obama to keep the federal government out of state implemented laws! The consensus was quite simple: These are our states and our laws, and we refuse to let ANYONE tell us differently. We are at a historical turning point in cannabis law reform in the United States, and we are sick and tired of arguing amongst ourselves. Instead, all cannabis users are now standing united to send Obama a loud and clear message; that we will not continue be ignored! It is clear that we are at the tipping point of having a major shift in cannabis laws: Washington, Oregon and Colorado all have cannabis legalization on the 2012 ballot. Whether you are a medical patient fighting for the right to use one of the safest most effective medicines in the world, or you simply prefer to use cannabis at the end of a long work day instead of drinking alcohol, you can agree that Obama MUST be held accountable for his actions against all cannabis users. Too many people are in jail, too much taxpayer money is being wasted, too many patients are suffering, and too many people are fed up with Obama’s lack of action when it comes to the illogical cannabis laws that exist in this country. http://www.theweedbl...-against-obama/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mememe Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 When the taxes were accepted by the state didn't that create an implied contract, thus legalizing the activity? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GanjaWarrior Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 obomney is after all the worse thing to happen to mmj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 WAIT TILL MITT GETS IN POWER.,.. OBUMMER WILL SEEM LIKE A SAINT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GanjaWarrior Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 WAIT TILL MITT GETS IN POWER.,.. OBUMMER WILL SEEM LIKE A SAINT fear vrs reality...reality wins all the time.... a person can count themselves among the sheeple if they believe fear over statistics. I have no doubt that mit romeny is not a friend of mmj , that's all find and dandy...hes a moron any way. nothing can make obammer look like a saint....what dont you grasp...obammer has the record....ABSOFNLUTLY the worst....no to think that another presidents going to break that record...when national sentiment is so against it is absurd.... i have no doubt he would try to keep up with obammers horrific numbers....but mits too stupid to possible do worse than the record. your stance is all based on fear and hype...its a fact that obammer is bad, very bad for mmj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveatLector Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 When the taxes were accepted by the state didn't that create an implied contract, thus legalizing the activity? No. Income tax is levied on, "all income from whatever source derived . . ." So if you rob a bank you need to report your take as income. That is how many of the old school gangsters were taken down--income tax violations for not paying taxes on income that was illegally obtained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GanjaWarrior Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 i thought this was a dif tax...like one created for disp... this was no fed income tax. the last place ...the one from the show, paid million plus...while having to maintain a none profit status... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelscott Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Oakland took in 54 million in tax revenue from dispensaries last year, accounting for 2.5% of the cities total business tax revenue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mememe Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Each store has to pay an annual licensing fee of $1595 in CA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Malamute Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) i thought this was a dif tax...like one created for disp... this was no fed income tax. the last place ...the one from the show, paid million plus...while having to maintain a none profit status... AFAIK Harborside is only a non profit int he state of California. They do not have Federal non profit status. Also, this is not about "profit", this is about allowing business expense deductions for illegal activities. When the taxes were accepted by the state didn't that create an implied contract, thus legalizing the activity? California is not denying Harborside tax write offs(yet), whereas the IRS will not honour business expense tax deductions for clearly illegal activity.(possession/transfer/sale of marijuana whether profit/non profit). Edited August 7, 2012 by Malamute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GanjaWarrior Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 ok so even with mals info...we know they were legal and accepted by the state...to the tune of millions of dollars....and according to the feds thier only crime was being so big that they might have the potential to commit a crimes...so when the day ends obammer is right at the top for the worse drug war nazi this nation has seen...he makes ronnie raygun seem compassionate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorium2 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) Who cares if Harborside was illegal or not? The owner is trying to remove our patient rights to grow with his public statements that we can't grow anything decent ourselves. Steve, the owner of Harborside dispensary, is a bigger threat to a patient growing their own, than President Barrack Obama. A dispensary owner is a bigger threat to our livelyhood than the President of the United States. In fact, President Barrack Obama is going to bat for us when the feds limit Steve and his endevours to steal our rights to grow our own. President Barrack Obama has no problems with us growing our own BUT a dispensary owner does? I see President Barrack Obama as on the side of patients growing their own, and Steve, the dispensary owner, is against us. The battle lines have been drawn. President Barrack Obama and patient growers on one side, dispensary owners on the other. I believe that's a fight we can win, one dispensary at a time. Edited August 7, 2012 by Restorium2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 i would hate to live in AZ have a nice grow set up then a disp moves in then i have to take down my grow and pay 55 an 1/8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorium2 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 President Obama is not a fan of home grows. That is a mischaracterization. Do you have a statement from the president that backs that up? Like with Steve the dispensary owner saying that medical marijuana shouldn't be grown in basements? Or do you just have a feeling? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorium2 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 i would hate to live in AZ have a nice grow set up then a disp moves in then i have to take down my grow and pay 55 an 1/8 Which promted the memo from President Barrack Obama, that monopoly dispensaries, in Arizona, were not the way to go. But the state and MPP pushed forward anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorium2 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 I have absolutely seen a campaign interview where he states growing at home is a problem. Ill find and repost when I get home. Thanks. I haven't seen it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solabeirtan Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Most relevant comment starts at 0:37 "...allow people to grow their own or start setting up mom and pop shops as it becomes difficult to regulate. ...." Slightley different than our MC program of Doctor authorized, State licensed certified caregivers and patients growing their own Cannabis. Wanna paint a target on your back, chances are somebody will make use of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelscott Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 his views are constantly "evolving" as seen with other issues. Hard to take something he said 4 years ago seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GanjaWarrior Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 so we can all agree hes a liar a pos and he is the worst thing to happen to mmj since prohibition...statistically speaking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GanjaWarrior Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 his views are constantly "evolving" as seen with other issues. Hard to take something he said 4 years ago seriously. hard to take anything a liar says seriously...his ideas are not evolving its called flip flopping. its a tool used to pander to the sheeple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorium2 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 (edited) Sounds like Steve, the dispensary owner, and Barrack, the president, are on the same page with regulation. The fat black line is regulation. Patients on one side, dispensaries and feds on the other. Until something changes, from here on out, identify the interloper by them being a regulation advocate. That's what all the trouble makers have in common. They are the enemy of the home grower. Edited August 7, 2012 by Restorium2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorium2 Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 so we can all agree hes a liar a pos and he is the worst thing to happen to mmj since prohibition...statistically speaking... Liar? Sounds like he is keeping his word from that 2008 clip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outsideinthecold Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Personally, I think a vote for either Obama or Romney is simply endorsing the current DEA/Feds approach to mmj. Isn't there a Libertarian candidate for president who supports individual liberty with regards to cannabis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 yes the 2008 clip is proof that obama has not changed his stance on MM ,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted August 7, 2012 Report Share Posted August 7, 2012 Obama would let u buy it from the feds less "difficult to regulate." Mitt would let u rot in a prison cell,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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