1lluminated1 Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Controversial: Our Men and Women In Uniform Are Being Used As Nazis M. Frank Drover The Daily Sheeple September 17th, 2012 Reader Views: 661 While those brave men and women in our military no doubt signed up to serve their country and its ideals of preserving the freedom and safety of the American people, the war machine controlled by elite financiers, the military industrial complex, and power hungry politicians have alternate ideas for how their might and dedication can best be used. This is a controversial topic that most Americans refuse to even consider, because it goes against everything we’ve been taught. But what if the men and women of our military have been hijacked for a more sinister agenda? http://youtube.com/watch?v=y1ksivtwFUk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Digital Nomad Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 The daily sheeple? Go to beyondtopsecret much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRnot4ganja Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 I apparently have the naive belief that all this can be fixed through the political process. It becomes more apparent every day that leaving this up to politicians will only result in delaying the inevitable and only buy time for the corporations to buy the new crop of politicians. It makes me sick that terrorism by my own country is being done in my name. Outside of armed insurrection or a civil war, there seems to be no way to fix this situation. It is clear from this video that some people see the armed insurrection path as the only way. I really, really hope that it does not come down to this. I lived the early part of my life during the anti Vietnam war era. I personally witnessed student street fights with the police. It really brings things up close and personal to be in the middle of something like that. Protests were for the most part peaceful and any physical confrontation with the police involved non-deadly force. The Kent State killings changed all that and were the straw that broke the establishment's back. Even though I think that the establishment is too smart to have another Kent State incident, they may be pushed into it. All hell will break loose then. Back in my day there weren't enough guns extant in order to arm every man, women, and child in the U.S. There are that many guns out there now. I still have a glimmer of hope that this will all be fixed politically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveatLector Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Interesting bit of propaganda and rhetoric complete with hollywood-style special effects. Calling our men and women of the military nazis? No doubt this was concocted by youngsters that have little, if any, idea of what the nazis did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaquetoo Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 Yep so Right and One sided! So What the video is saying, is if we would have taken out saddam insane when he was taking over other countrys, and than we would be horoe's saving people, it would have had the same end results as now with the so called end of the war, but we would have been good people protecting the middle east from insanes's take over of oil? Why doesnt that video say anything of the torture and murder and chemicide of his own people and his sons raping and killing? Or are you saying it didnt happen, its all fabricated, hmmmmmmm so when we walked in to thier capital this time, and the iraqi's were beating statues and posters of their dictator with sandles (the worst insult a muslim can commit on someone,besides rape and murder) Bottome line is we will never change there minds and they will never change ours! let the conspiracy theroist have at it! Peace Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishRnot4ganja Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) Interesting bit of propaganda and rhetoric complete with hollywood-style special effects. Calling our men and women of the military nazis? No doubt this was concocted by youngsters that have little, if any, idea of what the nazis did. It is really fascinating that the Nazi regime was hatched from a Democratic society. The majority of Germans agreed wholeheartedly with the Nazi socialist agenda. In order to pay for Hitler's promises, the regime had to concoct stories (propaganda) to justify the forcible stealing of other country's/culture's wealth. In order for the Nazi comparison to hold up we would have to be using our military force to steal from other countries. An argument could be made that the only reason we are in the Middle East is to protect the oil supply, but the difference is that we aren't stealing the oil. We pay for it. The Middle Easterners just don't want us there. They want the profits from the oil and they don't want to share with the big oil companies. I was just thinking about the similarities and differences between the Vietnam era and today. I think the biggest difference between that era and today is that back then we had the "draft". If young people were forced into going to today's wars, I think that the wars would be much fewer and farther between. Also, oil would be so expensive that alternative energy would be a necessity. The bad side is that under a draft type of situation we wouldn't go to war until things were so bad that the ensuing conflagration would kill millions of more people than are being killed under the present conditions. Edited September 18, 2012 by amish4ganja Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaquetoo Posted September 18, 2012 Report Share Posted September 18, 2012 (edited) First of All My Son Is Not a Nazi! He is a Proud U.S Marine! I would prefer to refer this one to world war 2, When we got hit by Japan and dropped a Bomb we were heroes! When we met russia in germany we were heroes! People raise their children to soft today! bunch of panty waistes in our society, With a False Political agenda! The Protests of vietnam were totaly for the Right Reasons, We should have never been there, And If we were gonna be there it should not have been a police action, It should have been full speed ahead, 1 veitnam at the end of it! There used to be a U.S.S.R, There is now a European union, and most of the old u.s.s.r is in the european union, no war! what happend? Peace Jim Edited September 18, 2012 by phaquetoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1lluminated1 Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 First of All My Son Is Not a Nazi! He is a Proud U.S Marine! I would prefer to refer this one to world war 2, When we got hit by Japan and dropped a Bomb we were heroes! When we met russia in germany we were heroes! People raise their children to soft today! bunch of panty waistes in our society, With a False Political agenda! The Protests of vietnam were totaly for the Right Reasons, We should have never been there, And If we were gonna be there it should not have been a police action, It should have been full speed ahead, 1 veitnam at the end of it! There used to be a U.S.S.R, There is now a European union, and most of the old u.s.s.r is in the european union, no war! what happend? Peace Jim Phaquetoo why are we in Iraq? What did they have to do with 911? Why are we in afghanistan? What did they have to do with 911? If you buy the "official" story of 911, the hijackers were saudis. I served in the middle east, and what I saw over there made me realize those are wars under false pre-tenses. (BTW 911 was a scam as well) Ask any Iraqi if they like their wedding parties droned. If they like curfews, no electricity, no water etc. The country is a wreck. I've seen it first hand. We brought nothing but destruction, and genocide to that country. Afghanistan as well. Now we are in Libya, Lebanon, Syria, pakistan. And for what? I supposed you think we should nuke Iran as well? Being in the military made me realize our country takes advantages of their troops for nothing more than to kill and steal from other countries around the world The only reason we are in Afghanistan is for the opium. The only reason we are in Iraq is for the oil. Our troops have been exploited by globalist bankers and are not being used for what they are intended for. To defend our nation. Our country is vulnerable to attack right now because all of our troops are overseas. BRING THE TROOPS HOME! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1lluminated1 Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 To blindly support war and genocide is criminal! People need to wake up. One day the world will take it's vengeance on the American People for supporting imperialistic wars of genocide. Ask the roughly 130,000 Iraqi civilians who died if they they are better off under Hussein or some American puppet. Same with the Japanese civilians killed by TWO atomic bombs. Ask yourself this... Why drop 2 atomic bombs on Civilian targets? And we say Iran has no right to Nuclear power. It sickens me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1lluminated1 Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Interesting bit of propaganda and rhetoric complete with hollywood-style special effects. Calling our men and women of the military nazis? No doubt this was concocted by youngsters that have little, if any, idea of what the nazis did. Why do you speak condescendingly of those "youngsters" who voice their opinion? Those are the only people trying to bring change to their country and stop these endless wars. Do you not see the similarities of Nazi Germany and modern day America? IT IS THE EXACT SAME MACHINE. Hitler was democratically elected just like our puppets. The people supported him through his countless wars just like we support our president. The dollar will soon be worthless. Our economy is collapsing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelscott Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 What was your MOS? Never had the privilege of Afghanistan but took a couple trips to Iraq. You should be ashamed of yourself, oh wait you are. To say we did no good at all, that some folks there weren't glad we were their is wrong. I dont think we should have gone, I dont think the majority wanted us occupying the country, but what genocide occured. Do we rape there women, do we round people up and gas them, do we hang people in the town squares, do we cut off heads on live television. We are the most dominant military the world has ever known, and the most civil. The military follows orders, the government gives the orders. How would you have it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaquetoo Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 (edited) What was your MOS? Never had the privilege of Afghanistan but took a couple trips to Iraq. You should be ashamed of yourself, oh wait you are. To say we did no good at all, that some folks there weren't glad we were their is wrong. I dont think we should have gone, I dont think the majority wanted us occupying the country, but what genocide occured. Do we rape there women, do we round people up and gas them, do we hang people in the town squares, do we cut off heads on live television. We are the most dominant military the world has ever known, and the most civil. The military follows orders, the government gives the orders. How would you have it? Very well said! you answered for me, No need for me to think I just want our country to rule the world or anything, I wish there were no wars, and as far as afhaganistan they were sheilding osama bin laden, the talaban was a dictatorship,They were given a warning and refused to take heed, their woman were not only treated as property, no schooling no privelages at all, now they are in the government, we will never change them people, you say they were all from saudi arabia b.s, they were from all over, extreme muslims that want to rule the world and make the U.S suffer! some people love to just look at the world thru rose colored glasses, if you are against the military and Government why did you join? unless you are of age to have been drafted,(than i feel for you, if not) open your eyes and mind, life is not all a conspiracy theory! Peace Jim edit= last paragraph is for 1illuminated1, in fact i guess most accept the first sentence was ment for 1. sorry michale scott, I was only gonna say the first 6 words for you, but well my fingers wouldnt stop! Edited September 19, 2012 by phaquetoo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaquetoo Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Why do you speak condescendingly of those "youngsters" who voice their opinion? Those are the only people trying to bring change to their country and stop these endless wars. Do you not see the similarities of Nazi Germany and modern day America? IT IS THE EXACT SAME MACHINE. Hitler was democratically elected just like our puppets. The people supported him through his countless wars just like we support our president. The dollar will soon be worthless. Our economy is collapsing. you mean why does he speak down to you? Why do you talk with forked tounge? lol Peace Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1lluminated1 Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 What was your MOS? Never had the privilege of Afghanistan but took a couple trips to Iraq. You should be ashamed of yourself, oh wait you are. To say we did no good at all, that some folks there weren't glad we were their is wrong. I dont think we should have gone, I dont think the majority wanted us occupying the country, but what genocide occured. Do we rape there women, do we round people up and gas them, do we hang people in the town squares, do we cut off heads on live television. We are the most dominant military the world has ever known, and the most civil. The military follows orders, the government gives the orders. How would you have it? Overall Iraq is in a worse state than before we entered is what I mean. I was 95B. I do no speak for all troops. Most are good. However due to our foreign policy, most middle eastern people despise Americans. We are looked at as an occupying force. And by genocide I mean, look. Some estimates say we killed over 1 Million iraqis (http://www.reuters.com/article/2008/01/30/us-iraq-deaths-survey-idUSL3048857920080130 ) Is this not genocide? We are killing Arab people for what? We are droning them in Pakistan, Lebanon, Libya, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan. Most of them are civilians. Many are suspect. Should they not at least recieve some trial? This is not conspiracy theory. This is fact. Most of them are civilians. Many are suspect. Should they not at least recieve some trial? We are creating the terrorists! People fear us throughout the world due to our foreign policy. America needs to stop policing every country in the world and start working on the issues at home. And many conspiracies are later proven to be correct. I do not post this to cause anger but to awaken people that are military has been hijacked. How can we protect our citizens at home when we are in every other country in the world? Michael did you know that we are funding the syrian rebels who work wth Al Qaida? The same Al Qaida who supposedly bombed us during 911. http://news.antiwar.com/2012/07/25/al-qaeda-infiltrating-syrian-opposition-with-us-support/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1lluminated1 Posted September 19, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 They were given a warning and refused to take heed, their woman were not only treated as property, no schooling no privelages at all, now they are in the government, we will never change them people, you say they were all from saudi arabia b.s, they were from all over, extreme muslims that want to rule the world and make the U.S suffer! some people love to just look at the world thru rose colored glasses, if you are against the military and Government why did you join? unless you are of age to have been drafted,(than i feel for you, if not) open your eyes and mind, life is not all a conspiracy theory! Peace Jim edit= last paragraph is for 1illuminated1, in fact i guess most accept the first sentence was ment for 1. sorry michale scott, I was only gonna say the first 6 words for you, but well my fingers wouldnt stop! I did not say the were from saudi, the government propaganda does. 911 was staged to give us a reason to go into Afghanistan and Iraq. It was staged for us to give up our rights. Look at the police state we live. 911 was the perfect tool to take away our freedoms. It's really not that hard to see. Hitler used the same strategy. Let me ask you this... Do you think the Muslims really hate us because of our freedoms? Look behind every supposed terrorist attack since 911 and you will find the FBI involved. They are creating fictional enemies to take away our rights. I post this so that others might see that America is rapidly crumbling before our very eyes. Our money is losing value every day. Our rights are being trampled on. We most fix these problems instead of spend our precious treasure droning children in 3rd world countries that don't even have internet. P.S. I volunteered immediately after 911 to protect our country and our constituional freedoms. I love this country just as much as anyone else. I speak to get peoples minds thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaquetoo Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 I did not say the were from saudi, the government propaganda does. 911 was staged to give us a reason to go into Afghanistan and Iraq. It was staged for us to give up our rights. Look at the police state we live. 911 was the perfect tool to take away our freedoms. It's really not that hard to see. Hitler used the same strategy. Let me ask you this... Do you think the Muslims really hate us because of our freedoms? Look behind every supposed terrorist attack since 911 and you will find the FBI involved. They are creating fictional enemies to take away our rights. I post this so that others might see that America is rapidly crumbling before our very eyes. Our money is losing value every day. Our rights are being trampled on. We most fix these problems instead of spend our precious treasure droning children in 3rd world countries that don't even have internet. P.S. I volunteered immediately after 911 to protect our country and our constituional freedoms. I love this country just as much as anyone else. I speak to get peoples minds thinking. first off My hat off to You for Joining to protect our country! Now did you think when you joined you would be gaurding ny city, the pile left by your conpriacy theory, did you not think we wouldnt go after the folks (extreme muslims) that blew up our towers,,do you actualy think we staged that? you must not have or you would have joined the talaban army and not the u.s, they love it when they can get americans to joing their ranks! Peace Jim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honeyoil Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Todays conspiracy theorists will be tomorrows survivors. I tire of explaining the obvious to sheeple. Good for you, 1Illuminated1, for giving it a go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 1Illuminated1 thank you,, As you were fighting our constitutional freedoms were being stripped by thugs in Washington Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelscott Posted September 19, 2012 Report Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hard to respond when the original post that pissed me off is gone. Illuminated, you are not gonna find me defending our government. You will see me defending the men and women on the ground. I know our government looks after its interests and supports some real scum in doing so. I was 11b, I realize you guys were tasked with a lot of similar missions, were you in Iraq when his sons were killed, when he was captured, the first election. Many happy citizens in the streets firing Aks in the air. Again not our place, but appreciated by many. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1lluminated1 Posted September 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2012 (edited) Thanks everyone for the interesting debate. Like always I enjoy hearing from both sides of the aisle. I just post these topics because I enjoy the discussion Edited September 21, 2012 by 1lluminated1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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