Caregiver Grow Room - Multiple Caregivers?

[peaches61]

Hello,

I and my husband are both caregivers and are just now starting to help patients. We have searched and have not found the information we are looking for. Here is our question:

Can multiple caregivers share the same grow room? Thank you for your responses.

 

Peaches

[Restorium2]

NO. You can only have access to the plants you are responsible for on the forms.

[Celliach]

NO! Each CG must have their own grow area that is not accessible to any other CGs.

[Medcnman]

Is it me or has there been alot of LEO-esque questions from alot of new members? Makes ya wonder eh... Mm

[Restorium2]

Is it me or has there been alot of LEO-esque questions from alot of new members? Makes ya wonder eh... Mm

I noticed it too. Started right after that Gaylord dispensary robbery. Must be new batch of cops with cards and internet access. It's cyclical here.

[shishka]

Why not have one of you run the veg room and the other run the flower room?

[Highlander]

Why not have one of you run the veg room and the other run the flower room?

 

That would require CG2CG transfer, which is a big grey (if not black) area.

[shishka]

I suppose, if you happen to have LEO standing in your house watching you move plants from one room to the other...

 

Or this, when hubby's veg plants are ready for flower he switches rooms and now runs flower and the wife, who's plants just finished in flower moves to the veg room with a new batch of plants. No transfer of plants. Just transfer of rooms.

[Highlander]

I suppose, if you happen to have LEO standing in your house watching you move plants from one room to the other...

 

If the OP was asking what they can get away with, then yeah, ok. Keeping the plants in one room accessible only to husband and wife is as "safe" as keeping separate rooms and passing mmj between CGs. Either scenario is a "loose lips sink ships" kinda thing.

 

The question was if it is legal to commingle the plants. So to tell someone to engage in one grey area activity (transfers plants from CG to CG then transferring finished meds back to the vegging CG) instead of the grey area activity they were contemplating (mixing the plants together) doesn't really do anyone much good.

[Celliach]

Recently the president of the DCCC was visited by local LEO. He and his wife are both CGs. They have separate rooms and separate keys. When LEO left without an incident after inspecting their grow they told them they had never seen someone with their paperwork and grow so together. The prez attributes some of the easy encounter with the fact that he and his wife had separate grow areas.

 

For the record, he attributes his visit on the fact that he's running a campaign for treasurer of his township and believes the complaint was politically motivated.

[Dj dab]

So if they allowed this couple to both have seprate rooms, what kind of numbers are they doing. I was thinking of doing something the same. I feel comfortable with being maxxed out on patients and then she could have her own room with 12. Do we dare add patients to her room?? Or maybe just completely stay away from having her caregive.

[t-pain]

federal minimum mandatory sentences start at 50+ plants. so its not wise to have posession of 50 or more plants at once.

local prosecutors hand cases over to feds whenever they want.

 

use this knowledge wisely.

actually it may start at 100 plants. i havent found the law about mandatory minimums. might be good to look that up as well.

 

before you start it may be wise to ask all of the doctors involved in your patients if they are willing to be witnesses in court.

having a doctor who explains the required medication can help ...

[Restorium2]

There's one at 50 and one at 100. It's usually the 100 that trips the trap that sends in the feds. But if you make someone mad they might jump you for over 50. The feds have been decent to those with cards, following state law, and staying under 100.

[GreenMagic]

Why not be each others caregivers, if you don't already have one?

 

 

 

[mibrains]

federal minimum mandatory sentences start at 50+ plants. so its not wise to have posession of 50 or more plants at once.

local prosecutors hand cases over to feds whenever they want.

 

use this knowledge wisely.

actually it may start at 100 plants. i havent found the law about mandatory minimums. might be good to look that up as well.

 

before you start it may be wise to ask all of the doctors involved in your patients if they are willing to be witnesses in court.

having a doctor who explains the required medication can help ...

 

 

FEDERAL Penalties

• Mandatory Minimum Sentence
  

Offense Penalty Incarceration Max. Fine

Possession

 

Any amount (first offense) misdemeanor 1 year $ 1,000

 

Any amount (second offense) misdemeanor 15 days* $ 2,500

 

Any amount (subsequent offense) misdemeanor or felony 90 days* - 3 years $ 5,000

 

* Mandatory minimum sentence

Sale

 

Less than 50 kg felony 5 years $ 250,000

 

50 - 99 kg felony 20 years $ 1,000,000

 

100 - 999 kg felony 5 - 40 years $ 500,000

 

1000 kg or more felony 10 years - life $ 1,000,000

 

To a minor or within 1000 ft of a school, or other specified areas carries a double penalty. Gift of small amount -- see Possession

Cultivation

 

 

Less than 50 plants felony 5 years $ 250,000

 

50 - 99 plants felony 20 years $ 1,000,000

 

100 - 999 plants felony 5 - 40 years $ 500,000

 

1000 plants or more felony 10 years - life $ 1,000,000

 

 

Paraphernalia

 

 

Sale of paraphernalia felony 3 years $ 0

 

Penalty Details

 

 

Possession of marijuana is punishable by up to one year in jail and a minimum fine of $1,000 for a first conviction. For a second conviction, the penalties increase to a 15-day mandatory minimum sentence with a maximum of two years in prison and a fine of up to $2,500. Subsequent convictions carry a 90-day mandatory minimum sentence and a maximum of up to three years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000.

Distribution of a small amount of marijuana, for no remuneration, is treated as possession. Manufacture or distribution of less than 50 plants or 50 kilograms of marijuana is punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of up to $250,000. For 50-99 plants or 50-99 kilograms the penalty increases not more than 20 years in prison and a fine of up to $1 million if an individual, $5 million if other than an individual for the first offense. Manufacture or distribution of 100-999 plants or 100-999 kilograms carries a penalty of 5 - 40 years in prison and a fine of $2-$5 Million. For 1000 plants or 1000 kilograms or more, the penalty increases to 10 years - life in prison and a fine of $4-$10 Million.

Distribution of greater than 5 grams of marijuana to a minor under the age of 21 doubles the possible penalties. Distribution within 1,000 feet of a school, playground, public housing or within 100 feet of a youth center, public pool or video arcade also doubles the possible penalties.

The sale of paraphernalia is punishable by up to three years in prison.

The sentence of death can be carried out on a defendant who has been found guilty of manufacturing, importing or distributing a controlled substance if the act was committed as part of a continuing criminal enterprise – but only if the defendant is (1) the principal administrator, organizer, or leader of the enterprise or is one of several such principal administrators, organizers, or leaders, and (2) the quantity of the controlled substance is60,000 kilograms or moreof a mixture or substance containing a detectable amount of marijuana, or 60,000 or more marijuana plants, or the if the enterprise received more than $20 million in gross receipts during any 12-month period of its existence.

 

 

 

Mandatory Minimum Sentence

 

When someone is convicted of an offense punishable by a mandatory minimum sentence, the judge must sentence the defendant to the mandatory minimum sentence or to a higher sentence. The judge has no power to sentence the defendant to less time than the mandatory minimum. A prisoner serving an MMS for a federal offense and for most state offenses will not be eligible for parole. Even peaceful marijuana smokers sentenced to "life MMS" must serve a life sentence with no chance of parole.

[SFC]

How many plants do you figure on growing? I cannot imagine a situation where one of you with even half the allotted maximum of one CG couldn't keep up with ten patients and yourselves. Of course that leads to my next question, you say "your husband and you are both caregivers and are just now ready to start helping patients". How many patients do you actually have? I really would be amazed that you could find ten patients to sign on with you if you are as green as you sound.

 

Either these people are looking thru gold colored glasses, or totally lost to reality..

[bobandtorey]

and when you start herring you can make up to $50,000 a year or more or stay home with no job theirs lots of people that would try to grow and if you get raided just knowing that you would only get probation if its your first time but most of us here know its not as easy as that

[pic book]

For the record, he attributes his visit on the fact that he's running a campaign for treasurer of his township and believes the complaint was politically motivated.

For the record, regarding comforting words from leo concering grows inspected, see the Duval fiacso, 5 years and 10. They had such a good first inspection, motivated by an enemy neighbor.

Edited December 3, 2012 by pic book

[cbenton]

Rule 333.127 Management of medical marihuana.

Rule 27. (1) A qualifying patient who has been issued and possesses a registry identification card shall

not be subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including

but not limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by a business or occupational or professional

licensing board or bureau, for the medical use of marihuana in accordance with the act, if the qualifying

patient possesses an amount of marihuana that does not exceed the following:

(a) Two and one-half (2.5) ounces of usable marihuana.

(b) If the qualifying patient has not specified that a primary caregiver will be allowed under state law to

cultivate marihuana for the qualifying patient, 12 marihuana plants kept in an enclosed, locked facility.

© Any incidental amount of seeds, stalks, and roots.

(2) A primary caregiver who has been issued and possesses a registry identification card shall not be

subject to arrest, prosecution, or penalty in any manner, or denied any right or privilege, including but not

limited to civil penalty or disciplinary action by a business or occupational or professional licensing

board or bureau, for assisting a qualifying patient to whom he or she is connected through the

department's registration process with the medical use of marihuana in accordance with the act, if the

primary caregiver possesses an amount of marihuana that does not exceed the following:

(a) Two and one-half (2.5) ounces of usable marihuana for each registered qualifying patient to whom he

or she is connected through the department's registration process.

(b) For each registered qualifying patient who has specified that the primary caregiver will be allowed

under state law to cultivate marihuana for the qualifying patient, 12 marihuana plants kept in an

enclosed, locked facility.

© Any incidental amount of seeds, stalks, and unusable roots.

(3) An individual may simultaneously be registered as a qualifying patient and as a primary caregiver

[chrissy0109]

I am a CG and getting my grow room ready.  I still am not clear on whether or not my husband (who is my patient) can help me in the growing process (legally)  Does anyone have any input on this?  Also we are not growing at home.  It will be at another location.

 

Thanks

Edited July 12, 2015 by chrissy0109

[Restorium2]

I am a CG and getting my grow room ready.  I still am not clear on whether or not my husband (who is my patient) can help me in the growing process (legally)  Does anyone have any input on this?  Also we are not growing at home.  It will be at another location.

 

Thanks

Your husband, as a patient and not a caregiver, can only have access to 12 specific plants. The rest have to be locked so he can't have access to those. Make sure no one gives law enforcement any info on your arrangement if you happen to have them asking questions. They will twist around what you say when there are no witnesses(attorney) to listen in.  

[trichcycler]

only one person in the grow room authorized to possess the plants within.

only one person authorized to be in the room with plants. http://www.legislature.mi.gov/(S(zkdnl4ugrhpy4zunqg4nv2t5))/mileg.aspx?page=getObject&objectName=mcl-333-26423

[phaquetoo]

Your husband, as a patient and not a caregiver, can only have access to 12 specific plants. The rest have to be locked so he can't have access to those. Make sure no one gives law enforcement any info on your arrangement if you happen to have them asking questions. They will twist around what you say when there are no witnesses(attorney) to listen in.  

only the c.g can be in the room, only the c.g can be in the room,

 

if you are a pt grower only you can be in the room

 

if you are a c.g for 5 people only you can be in the room

 

if you are only a c.g to your hubby only you can be in the room

 

Only the person with the grow rights can be in the room

 

Only the person with grow rights can be in the room

 

Only the person with grow rights can be in the room, and said room must be locked at all times so as to not let any one else in the room, so when you are in the room lock the door!

 

need I repeat any thing else?

 

Peace

 

read the law!

[Restorium2]

The whole logic behind it was that if you are a felon you can't be a caregiver and can't have access to more than 12 plants because you are a felon. Only registered caregivers have the qualifications (not a felon and proved it) to have access to more than 12 plants.  

[phaquetoo]

The whole logic behind it was that if you are a felon you can't be a caregiver and can't have access to more than 12 plants because you are a felon. Only registered caregivers have the qualifications (not a felon and proved it) to have access to more than 12 plants.  

They amended the law so that only the person who has the grow rights can be in the room.  That is the law, I beleive the op asked a question about legality not what we want the law to be!

 

Peace