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See I'm a Hamm Radio Operator and i get on 20 and 75 meters and spread the word of the sacred herb KI8NGS. Catch me late night on the possum net. Spread the good word any way you can i have about a 25 state wide audience going now. Kinda feel like Howard Stern. :) . Thinking of using the stage name Reverend Green. From The Michissippi Army Of One. Your truely Kingpinn The Ball Buster

 

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Why post this? The laws passed and this is just another farce to appear that they care. Pifft

What a waste of time to think we will have any real input in the process? Are you all really that blind?

The Governor will place people in those positions that will not favor us one bit, all they will be thinking is how to milk us for every dollar they can get.

Wake the farark up!!!

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I attended the first meeting of the New Conditions Panel yesterday. Our MMMA member Hayduke was selected for the panel. The 13-member panel swiftly and easily voted yes on Parkinson's disease, and no on PTSD, though with many abstentions, so I think that vote could fall in our favor in the end.

 

Freddy, the meeting is an open public meeting. If you are concerned, I think you should attend and monitor like several others did yesterday.

 

Thank you for the report. I got called out on an emergency, and had to leave before the meeting started.

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This is from our friend John Evans- it was his petition that was considered before the panel to evaluate adding the condition PTSD-thank you to John Evans for his courage and efforts on this issue.

 

Hello fellow Activist and Distractors,

 

I would like to report I am very pleased with respect to the process, progress and the likelihood that Post Traumatic Stress will be eventually accepted as a qualifying condition, for the first time I would say the odds are better than 50-50.

 

I was very satisfied with makeup and lively debate from the Michigan medical marijuana review panel. Panel members are participating strictly on a volunteer basis, panel is not, as I was afraid stacked/loaded with in house, in system, corporate doctors.

 

Panel is stacked with a health care professionals, caretakers, from my perspective each concerned with the process, panels responsibility, and providing care for patients.

 

Average age was between 40 and 50 years old, equal male and female, established providers from diverse specialties, from VA doctors and social workers to hospice care. Main reason for debate, only on how best to care for patients. I do not believe that panel members In opposition did so out of spite or malice, only because of preset standards, training, and acceptable practice.

 

11 of the 12 panel members were present, in regards to the first petition Parkinson’s disease panel voted in approval, 8 yes votes and 3 no votes. Debate was short and focused on risk versus benefits. limited scientific proof of benefits was presented and generally accepted, risk was perceived as a minimum as patients generally over the age of 60, minimum harm to themselves or society.

 

With respect to the process I am not discouraged by the panel not voting in favor of adding Post Traumatic Stress as a qualifying condition. Panel vote was 4 yes votes, 5 no votes and 2 abstained. One of the individuals voting no, directly expressed that he was doing so to encourage public testimony from Veterans.

 

Debate was focused on evidence, lack of scientific evidence versus anecdotal evidence. one individual voting no, expressed his vote was to motivate individuals, worried a yes vote at this time by the panel would result in a lack of enthusiasm for public testimony. I completely agree and I thanked him for his approach and logic.

 

Folks I need, we need Veterans in uniform with medals and ribbons testifying. Panel is only making a recommendation, decision will be made by a director of LARA. Personal testimony is needed to change public opinion.

 

With all respect to the victims of domestic violence, and other tragic experiences, I respectfully request you allow Veterans to testify first, and if possible try to connect your personal experiences with how it would help Veterans.

 

Panel was particularly sensitive to the treatment of Veterans, and respectful of the sacrifices. One panel member suggested adding a statement of in support of Veterans, concerned that no vote would be interpreted as disrespectful. And I mean no disrespect to others that suffer from Post Traumatic Stress, I am just convinced this panel will respond favorably to the argument that Veterans have made the ultimate sacrifice for us, in the least we can do is to allow them to participate in a State sanctioned program.

 

During public comments, I explained my motivation, I told the story of Army specialist Joseph Patrick Dwyer (Link or Google) this story brought tears to one of the no votes, VA social worker/psychiatrist. Individual from VA voted no, based on the argument, properly supervised psychiatric care was better and more affect than using marijuana. My position using marijuana was safer than using inhalants.

 

I am convinced with focused attention on Veterans this panel will change its position prior to formal recommendation.

 

I would like to request family members provide testimony, of any Veteran suffering from the effects of PTSd, is my personal belief even talking about a family member who is a veteran, is more effective in this case, than discussing other experiences that result in PTSd.

 

This panel is made up of volunteers, taking time away from their normal lives and families, I am very grateful for their time, and understand panel members only responsible for evaluating information provided. Please bring information to them, do not expect volunteers to do the work and reach out to you.

 

Process will continue, best information at this time.

January 11, website will be available for public comment,

 

January 25 lecture hall at Michigan Library 712 W. Kalamazoo is reserved for public comments.

 

Michigan medical marijuana review panel will reconvene somewhere between March 15 and April 15 and will make final recommendation to the director of LARA. Final decision expected May 20, this is the deadline, I don’t expect anything sooner.

 

I encourage everyone to attend, January 25, I respectfully request you focus on Veterans and post-dramatic stress, not self-promotion.

 

For this to be successful, focus on the goal is required, goal is Veterans with Post Traumatic Stress, this will open the door for others, I am confident of this.

 

Thank you for your support, and control of your own egos.

John Evans

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This is from our friend John Evans- it was his petition that was considered before the panel to evaluate adding the condition PTSD-thank you to John Evans for his courage and efforts on this issue.

 

Hello fellow Activist and Distractors,

 

I would like to report I am very pleased with respect to the process, progress and the likelihood that Post Traumatic Stress will be eventually accepted as a qualifying condition, for the first time I would say the odds are better than 50-50.

 

I was very satisfied with makeup and lively debate from the Michigan medical marijuana review panel. Panel members are participating strictly on a volunteer basis, panel is not, as I was afraid stacked/loaded with in house, in system, corporate doctors.

 

Panel is stacked with a health care professionals, caretakers, from my perspective each concerned with the process, panels responsibility, and providing care for patients.

 

Average age was between 40 and 50 years old, equal male and female, established providers from diverse specialties, from VA doctors and social workers to hospice care. Main reason for debate, only on how best to care for patients. I do not believe that panel members In opposition did so out of spite or malice, only because of preset standards, training, and acceptable practice.

 

11 of the 12 panel members were present, in regards to the first petition Parkinson’s disease panel voted in approval, 8 yes votes and 3 no votes. Debate was short and focused on risk versus benefits. limited scientific proof of benefits was presented and generally accepted, risk was perceived as a minimum as patients generally over the age of 60, minimum harm to themselves or society.

 

With respect to the process I am not discouraged by the panel not voting in favor of adding Post Traumatic Stress as a qualifying condition. Panel vote was 4 yes votes, 5 no votes and 2 abstained. One of the individuals voting no, directly expressed that he was doing so to encourage public testimony from Veterans.

 

Debate was focused on evidence, lack of scientific evidence versus anecdotal evidence. one individual voting no, expressed his vote was to motivate individuals, worried a yes vote at this time by the panel would result in a lack of enthusiasm for public testimony. I completely agree and I thanked him for his approach and logic.

 

Folks I need, we need Veterans in uniform with medals and ribbons testifying. Panel is only making a recommendation, decision will be made by a director of LARA. Personal testimony is needed to change public opinion.

 

With all respect to the victims of domestic violence, and other tragic experiences, I respectfully request you allow Veterans to testify first, and if possible try to connect your personal experiences with how it would help Veterans.

 

Panel was particularly sensitive to the treatment of Veterans, and respectful of the sacrifices. One panel member suggested adding a statement of in support of Veterans, concerned that no vote would be interpreted as disrespectful. And I mean no disrespect to others that suffer from Post Traumatic Stress, I am just convinced this panel will respond favorably to the argument that Veterans have made the ultimate sacrifice for us, in the least we can do is to allow them to participate in a State sanctioned program.

 

During public comments, I explained my motivation, I told the story of Army specialist Joseph Patrick Dwyer (Link or Google) this story brought tears to one of the no votes, VA social worker/psychiatrist. Individual from VA voted no, based on the argument, properly supervised psychiatric care was better and more affect than using marijuana. My position using marijuana was safer than using inhalants.

 

I am convinced with focused attention on Veterans this panel will change its position prior to formal recommendation.

 

I would like to request family members provide testimony, of any Veteran suffering from the effects of PTSd, is my personal belief even talking about a family member who is a veteran, is more effective in this case, than discussing other experiences that result in PTSd.

 

This panel is made up of volunteers, taking time away from their normal lives and families, I am very grateful for their time, and understand panel members only responsible for evaluating information provided. Please bring information to them, do not expect volunteers to do the work and reach out to you.

 

Process will continue, best information at this time.

January 11, website will be available for public comment,

 

January 25 lecture hall at Michigan Library 712 W. Kalamazoo is reserved for public comments.

 

Michigan medical marijuana review panel will reconvene somewhere between March 15 and April 15 and will make final recommendation to the director of LARA. Final decision expected May 20, this is the deadline, I don’t expect anything sooner.

 

I encourage everyone to attend, January 25, I respectfully request you focus on Veterans and post-dramatic stress, not self-promotion.

 

For this to be successful, focus on the goal is required, goal is Veterans with Post Traumatic Stress, this will open the door for others, I am confident of this.

 

Thank you for your support, and control of your own egos.

John Evans

 

Thank you for all the hard work that you are doing i wish that i could help you more

 

I was more Active the last 3years Or so ago and my PTSD has gotten worse because of the courts trying to railroad us

I have talked to my V.A doctor about marihuana many times he is OK with

Using it but after being raided i have not been able to grow my own because am Scared i feel that growing was the best thing that helped me

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three petitions, in the proper format (as determined by LARA), have been received and we have discussed and preliminarily voted. Internet comments begin 1/11 and there will be a hearing 1/25. The panel meets again sometime between 3/15 and 4/15.

 

File a petition for asthma with the supporting documents, and it seems likely you could get that on the agenda for the future. Address questions for LARA to Steve Creamer. He is a nice guy who is very helpful on logistics.

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That would make outstanding testimony for the panel, Jim, if Restorium can figure out a way to fill out section 3 of the petition for asthma.

 

Restorium, I think you could fill out this section acknowledging that it already fits the description under section 3(a)(2), but that physicians need direction because of the spurious inclusion of multiple sclerosis in the description of muscle spasms.

Let's say a doctor was having trouble making the leap, from what the law says about muscle spasms, to making a rec to an asthma patient, because of the chronic muscle spasms of asthma. That doctor could make the case in question 3 with vigor. Could that doctor be the one to make the petition? Can doctors make these petitions? It seems they would be in the cat bird seat to do it. Doctors could write the petition and their patients back them up. That would cover medical expertise and patient testimony in a neat package.

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An argument that , yes, asthma is currently covered under symptoms, but not specifically under conditons, and we would like to add asthma as a specific condition?

 

That would be a solution to both sides.

 

We don't wish to help identify persons that may not qualify. So we don't want to say that such persons are clearly not qualified.

 

I would hope that would not be a requirement of filing this petition.

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Thank you for all the hard work that you are doing i wish that i could help you more

 

I was more Active the last 3years Or so ago and my PTSD has gotten worse because of the courts trying to railroad us

I have talked to my V.A doctor about marihuana many times he is OK with

Using it but after being raided i have not been able to grow my own because am Scared i feel that growing was the best thing that helped me

 

Bob, are you allowed to grow legally now? If you are, get at it now. Gardening is very therapeutic and will make you feel better. After my visit from CMET, I lost my will to grow, I let the place go to hell, my heart just wasn't in it. Well, 3 or 4 weeks ago I forced myself to get the grow up and running. I washed walls, floors, fans, you name it. I can't explain why or how, but, it was the best thing that I could have done. It helped take my mind off of my troubles and generally I feel much better. Knowing that the law and truth are on our side helps a lot, too. We will be free.

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Yes i can start up a grow and i agree it would help me i tell people the same as you have said that

 

Marijuana is not addictive but growing is LOL

 

I am back living in the same city were we got raided because my Mom died

 

A few months ago so am liveing in her house and i just cant get up the Nerve

To grow but i know it would help me so some day soon i hope

 

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I think I'm going to use this study for question 5;

 

Title Effects of smoked marijuana in experimentally induced asthma. Author(s) Tashkin DP, Shapiro BJ, Lee YE, Harper CE Journal, Volume, Issue American Review of Respiratory Disease 1975;112(3):377-386 Major outcome(s) after experimental induction of acute bronchospasm prompt correction of the bronchospasm with cannabis Indication Asthma Abstract Medication Cannabis

After experimental induction of acute bronchospasm in 8 subjects with clinically stable bronchial asthma, effects of 500 mg of smoked marijuana (2.0 per cent delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol) on specific airway conductance and thoracic gas volume were compared with those of 500 mg of smoked placebo marijuana (0.0 per cent delta9- tetrahydrocannabinol), 0.25 ml of aerosolized saline, and 0.25 ml of aerosolized isoproterenol (1,250 mug). Bronchospasm was induced on 4 separate occasions, by inhalation of methacholine and, on four other occasions, by exercise on a bicycle ergometer or treadmill. Methacholine and exercise caused average decreases in specific airway conductance of 40 to 55 per cent and 30 to 39 per cent, respectively, and average increases in thoracic gas volume of 35 to 43 per cent and 25 to 35 per cent, respectively. After methacholine-induced bronchospasm, placebo marijuana and saline inhalation produced minimal changes in specific airway conductance and thoracic gas volume, whereas 2.0 per cent marijuana and isoproterenol each caused a prompt correction of the bronchospasm and associated hyperinflation. After exercise-induced bronchospasm, placebo marijuana and saline were followed by gradual recovery during 30 to 60 min, whereas 2.0 per cent marijuana and isoproterenol caused an immediate reversal of exercise-induced asthma and hyperinflation.

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I think I'm going to use this study for question 5;

 

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Title Effects of smoked marijuana in experimentally induced asthma. Author(s) Tashkin DP, Shapiro BJ, Lee YE, Harper CE Journal, Volume, Issue American Review of Respiratory Disease 1975;112(3):377-386 Major outcome(s) after experimental induction of acute bronchospasm prompt correction of the bronchospasm with cannabis Indication Asthma Abstract Medication Cannabis

After experimental induction of acute bronchospasm in 8 subjects with clinically stable bronchial asthma, effects of 500 mg of smoked marijuana (2.0 per cent delta9-tetrahydrocannabinol) on specific airway conductance and thoracic gas volume were compared with those of 500 mg of smoked placebo marijuana (0.0 per cent delta9- tetrahydrocannabinol), 0.25 ml of aerosolized saline, and 0.25 ml of aerosolized isoproterenol (1,250 mug). Bronchospasm was induced on 4 separate occasions, by inhalation of methacholine and, on four other occasions, by exercise on a bicycle ergometer or treadmill. Methacholine and exercise caused average decreases in specific airway conductance of 40 to 55 per cent and 30 to 39 per cent, respectively, and average increases in thoracic gas volume of 35 to 43 per cent and 25 to 35 per cent, respectively. After methacholine-induced bronchospasm, placebo marijuana and saline inhalation produced minimal changes in specific airway conductance and thoracic gas volume, whereas 2.0 per cent marijuana and isoproterenol each caused a prompt correction of the bronchospasm and associated hyperinflation. After exercise-induced bronchospasm, placebo marijuana and saline were followed by gradual recovery during 30 to 60 min, whereas 2.0 per cent marijuana and isoproterenol caused an immediate reversal of exercise-induced asthma and hyperinflation.

 

Excellent information. Produced by well respected professionals.

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