shredder0911 Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 Doubt this will go anywhere positive, but IF it does, I can go back home and take some new gear with me! ;~} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Celliach Posted November 15, 2012 Report Share Posted November 15, 2012 A petition does not change the constitution. This is already being discussed here in this thread: http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org/topic/41747-obama-reelection-spurs-wave-of-states%E2%80%99-petitions-to-secede/page__fromsearch__1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fairandhonest Posted November 18, 2012 Report Share Posted November 18, 2012 (edited) interesting read even though it won't happen and I am certainly not advocating it... notice u gotta have a white house account to even sign it... lol i also found our state also has a petition goin: WE PETITION THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION TO: Peacefully grant the State of Michigan to withdraw from the United States of America and create its own NEW government. As the founding fathers of the United States of America made clear in the Declaration of Independence in 1776: "When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation." "...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, that whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or abolish it, and institute new Government..." Created: Nov 10, 2012 Issues: Civil Rights and Liberties Learn about Petition Thresholds SIGNATURES NEEDED BY DECEMBER 10, 2012 TO REACH GOAL OF 25,000 5,866 TOTAL SIGNATURES ON THIS PETITION 19,134 Sign this Petition A whitehouse.gov account is required to sign Petitions. WHY? These were the latest numbers as of writing this. Some states have two petitions: 1. Louisiana, 13,426 2. Texas, 18,012 3. Florida, 4,987 4. Alabama, 5,156 5. North Carolina, 4,623 6. Kentucky, 3,929 7. Mississippi, 3,849; 8. Indiana, 3,876; 9. North Dakota, 2,998 10. Montana, 3,378 11. Colorado, 3,746 12. Oregon, 3,230 13. New Jersey, 2,960 14. New York, 3,425 15. South Carolina, 3,193, 2,087 16. Arkansas, 1,537 17. Georgia, 3,912, 2,604 18. Missouri, 2,085, 2,781 19. Tennessee 3,656 20. Michigan 3,230 Edited November 18, 2012 by fairandhonest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herb Cannabis Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Do we not depend on the federal government for a lot of money? Would the money we saved by not sending it to the feds be enough to off set the federal cash cow that we now enjoy? Just curious. What happens if our state is hit with a natural disaster such as a fire, tornado's, drought or flooding, would we have enough money to rebuild our neighborhoods, schools and towns with out the help of the federal government or would we just be sheet out of luck? These are things we should consider before we decide we want to go it on our own. Our government is far from perfect, that is why we elect people to conduct the business of our country. We continue to follow this process until we get it right or our time on this planet is finished which ever comes first. That's just how I see it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 Every one on social security would be done with,, everyone, and who knows what else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveatLector Posted November 19, 2012 Report Share Posted November 19, 2012 A state cannot secede legally speaking. We don't own the state of Michigan any more than people in Ohio own Michigan. These petitions are nothing more than symbolic gestures made by people who don't like Obamacare. Not only that but they're a very tiny portion of the electorate. It's mostly a bunch of nonsense. If everyone who had a gripe with the feds signed a petition to secede then we would always have petitions circulating and initiated by those not in power at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shredder0911 Posted November 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Yeah "symbolic gestures made by the people", where have we heard that before just recently?? I believe it was related to the police ignoring ideas brought forth and voted on by the people, in Mi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveatLector Posted November 20, 2012 Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 Yeah "symbolic gestures made by the people", where have we heard that before just recently?? I believe it was related to the police ignoring ideas brought forth and voted on by the people, in Mi. How does that relate to what I wrote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shredder0911 Posted November 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2012 How does that relate to what I wrote? Coincidental choice of similar words, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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