What Good Is A Card Without A Caregiver?

[tricharious]

Due to recent findings from the supreme court, patients are not allowed to buy from shops or other patients. This means a patient can only purchase from their designated caregiver. What happens if a registered patient gets busted in possession of medical marijuana but doesn't have a registered caregiver? Won't the authorities recognize this discrepancy and assume that the cannabis was acquired through the black market? Exactly how useful is getting certified if you have no legal means of obtaining your medicine?

 

I plan on getting certified for my own legal protection but how protected are you really?

 

I'd like people to list reasons for getting certified whether they pertain to the subject matter of this post or not.

 

Also, if you were to become your own caregiver what exactly does an enclosed and locked facility constitute? What of you live with someone who is not certified, can you still grow on your own home? Where might I find information about becoming your own caregiver, setting up a small grow op, and making sure you're abiding by the law?

 

Thanks,

 

b_lucky

Edited February 26, 2013 by b_lucky

[ozzrokk]

You can find all the info on this site...

 

 

http://www.michigan.gov/lara/0,4601,7-154-35299_63294_63303_51869---,00.html

[OG Fire Beaster]

Who said a patient cant do those things? I think they said its the one transferring that is doing wrong.

[Highlander]

The SC ruling is pretty direct that a pt can get meds anywhere

[phaquetoo]

your card will keep you out of jail, most of the time, and pt's can aquire anywhere it is the person supplying it that needs to worry!

 

Peace

Jim

 

Get your card already and than take your time and find a good c.g, your not gonna find a good one your first time on the internet, and I dont think there are to many on craigs list, lmao, well I mean im sure their are more c.g's than pt's on craigs list, Hey while your looking, I need a truck, it dont have to be 4 wheel drive, but has to be an 8 cylinder, pretty nice shape and be able to haul my 28ft camper! Thanks!

[tricharious]

http://www.theoaklan...?mobredir=false

 

well I know that dispensaries are not legal and according to this link it would seem that while they were deciding the Mount Pleasant case it's also been decided that patient to patient sales are not legal.

 

so if you get pulled over and you're registered what do they just let you go? or are they going to press charges and try and find some kind of crap to nail you on...? that probably depends on the officer id imagine.

Edited March 12, 2013 by b_lucky

[tricharious]

so what you're saying is that patient to patient sales might be illegal but it's not the patient receiving the product but the patient selling the product that is doing wrong?

Edited February 26, 2013 by b_lucky

[+JuztBudz]

Exactly, b-lucky! The patient has several options available to him because patients are not restricted in how they obtain the medicine. If I go out and buy something from a guy delivering at the parking lot of a local business, and the police nab me and the seller, I should be allowed to go free from the encounter. The seller, however, will likely have to spend at least one night in a cold and dangerous jail cell. With some forethought and discretion no one should be going to jail at all... Peace ... j.b.

[Restorium2]

so what you're saying is that patient to patient sales might be illegal but it's not the patient receiving the product but the patient selling the product that is doing wrong?

You don't have to tell where you bought it either. That's been proven in court.

[cristinew]

and never tell a cop you smoked that day when pulled over , or you may get a duid

[mibrains]

that's excellent follow up advice cristinew

 

and remember everybody that Miranda is a reminder of your existing rights.

 

anything you say CAN and WILL be used AGAINST you.

 

not for you...ever.

 

against you.

 

so always be sure you are aware of your surroundings and be as safe as possible.

 

there are a lot of really good caregivers out here willing and able to help...

 

my personal advice is to remember that communication is always the key...first and foremost do you feel safe and comfortable talking with this person...

[strangluv]

This is a good thread and while most of us CGs were aware of the risk discrepancy a lot of patients were not, especially new pts with no former CG besides a dispensary.

 

And exactly highlights the reasons your CG may be a bit "edgy" meeting new patients. So please bear with him and be legal, safe, peaceful, you have nothing to lose a a good friend to gain.

[ozzrokk]

that's excellent follow up advice cristinew

 

and remember everybody that Miranda is a reminder of your existing rights.

 

anything you say CAN and WILL be used AGAINST you.

 

not for you...ever.

 

against you.

 

so always be sure you are aware of your surroundings and be as safe as possible.

 

there are a lot of really good caregivers out here willing and able to help...

 

my personal advice is to remember that communication is always the key...first and foremost do you feel safe and comfortable talking with this person...

 

 

Best advice there Mibrains make sure you feel comfortable.

[ibob]

The SC ruling is pretty direct that a pt can get meds anywhere

and now we all know but i think we already knew

[Ms Chocolate]

B_Lucky, You might want to read - and fully understand the law - before committing yourself. You might find that you can grow your own, or where you can get marihuana, and/or how you might be protected. You will find that you can not be your own caregiver. Certification does not allow you to purchase anything, but it can offer you some protection on your purchase. Having a card is another level of protection.

[dirtgrower]

You can Buy.... BUT you just can't ask for donations from ppl that you do not have a card for.

 

That is my understanding LMAO.....if you have a card you are golden with under 2.5 OZ'S BUT you can't not take Donations from ppl that are not under your Caregiver card.....

[MR GREENTHUMB]

B_Lucky dispensaries are not legal as of right now, don't know where you heard that. read the LAW carefully.

[tricharious]

I specifically said that dispensaries ARE illegal.

[phaquetoo]

http://www.theoaklan...?mobredir=false

 

well I know that dispensaries are now legal and according to this link it would seem that while they were deciding the Mount Pleasant case it's also been decided that patient to patient sales are not legal.

 

so if you get pulled over and you're registered what do they just let you go? or are they going to press charges and try and find some kind of crap to nail you on...? that probably depends on the officer id imagine.

despenses are ilegal and p2p is ilegal for the pt supplying mm not the one recieving it, some think if no cash exchanges hands it is legal but it is not!

You realy should read the law, it dont take too long and than read it again, realy nothing has changed, the same things that were ilegal when they passed the law are still ilegal now!

 

Peace

Jim

Edited March 11, 2013 by phaquetoo

[Kingdiamond]

I specifically said that dispensaries ARE illegal.

 

 

http://www.theoaklan...?mobredir=false

 

"well I know that dispensaries are now legal "

 

I thin they were refering to this sentence .

[free country 420]

Ok what about his? About growing in a house with a non user or kids

[tricharious]

I see. That was a typo. Dispensaries are not legal.

[MR GREENTHUMB]

chill man you or mod fixed the typo

[itisi]

Ok what about his? About growing in a house with a non user or kids

As long as your grow is locked up it makes no difference if any one else in the house is legal or not. When my daughter was staying with me during her divorce her ex called CPS. I was at work when the stopped by the house, they asked her to see the grow. She took them as far as the dead bolted door and said this is as far as I can go I'm not allowed in the grow. They said good enough and left never heard another word about it.

[Herb Cannabis]

http://www.legislature.mi.gov/%28S%2851bx5anu23zomgvp25ybjnbc%29%29/mileg.aspx?page=GetObject&objectname=mcl-Initiated-Law-1-of-2008

 

Here is a link to IL 1 of 2008 with the new amendments