Dlo Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 This is one the best treads iv every read, saved me a lot of money, time. And learned a ton. If you haven't read It. Its well worth the time. Sorry this phone is junk http://www.cannabis-world.org/cw/showthread.php?t=892 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 it works great,, I have used it,, but i do add some supplemts to increase the oil production,,, such as crystal burst or snow storm,, with the right light 600 w flower 400 veg you can produce cannabis for under 20 bucks an oz.... thats right, Lucas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) http://lucasformula.com/ i use 16 ml of flora bloom 8 ml flora mico,,, ph to 6 use in both veg and bud room add the supplemts in the bud room such as crystal burst, ect......... happy growing,, Edited March 6, 2013 by cristinew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hic Posted March 6, 2013 Report Share Posted March 6, 2013 cristinew I will ask you a question if you do not mind. Now If oils of plant I was after and I could only use 1 product what use of product will give me more oils in long run all by itself. A - carbs "sugars" B - vitamins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 (edited) Good question Hic ,, i do not know that answer,, also i do use Humate Supream tablets, 1.5 tablet per plant, Edited March 7, 2013 by cristinew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hic Posted March 7, 2013 Report Share Posted March 7, 2013 Well someday perhaps then you will tell me what the answer is if you really think the question was good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKind Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Lucas knows his stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pic book Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 with the right light 600 w flower 400 veg you can produce cannabis for under 20 bucks an oz... That's bulllshiiitt. Disagree? Then please show your accounting and it better be precise cause I'm calling you OUT! This is so misleading and unfortunate, aND ITS ALSO a great disservice the mmj Commmunity. In fact if you have any thot you are actually right and didn't just misspeak or mistype when you meant 120 an ounce TAKE UP THIS CHALLENGE AND JOURNAL YOUR 20 BUCK PER OUNCE GROW. PLEASE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Pic Book take a Hike,,,,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 i have a harvest every 19 days i clone every 19 days 3 stages in each room, veg and bud,,, no mother plants,, flower in 3 gallon bags put into the bags from quart pots, 10 days before flower room,,,, I do not have to prove anything to you,,,,,,,, If someone wants to learn how to do this i will teach them,,.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pic book Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 i have a harvest every 19 days i clone every 19 days 3 stages in each room, veg and bud,,, no mother plants,, flower in 3 gallon bags put into the bags from quart pots, 10 days before flower room,,,, I do not have to prove anything to you,,,,,,,, If someone wants to learn how to do this i will teach them,,.. Proof up, if you can, or revise that $20 to reflect the reality of costs that growers face. How much value did you give to space, whether rented or owned? That can be $20 an ounce itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelscott Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 The cost of the space only matters if that space was going to be doing something else, is your house payment less if you stop growing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 The cost of the space only matters if that space was going to be doing something else, is your house payment less if you stop growing? I'll tell ya......looking at clean condos for sale for $30,000 ..... with $250/month fees that cover heat, water, cable, exterior maintenance, snow, lawn, security.....so for about $420 (ha)/month one can have a clean, secure, safe, place to live....maybe even a pool and other amenities.....vs the cost of maintaining a place suitable to grow? Is your house payment less if you stop growing...well....if you plan ahead and plan smart than yes...it is....a house you can grow in is more expensive to keep than a house you can't grow in. If you have extra space in your home and feel a financial pinch, it is time to downsize...or "grow" up to make utility of your extra space. I trust this answers your question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelscott Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Kinda funny, my first grow was in a condo. If you are buying specifically for a grow house then that is a different animal but I do think I could show comps that would be suitable for growing, let me know where that condo is. So yes you did answer the question but I disagree. If a patient is living somewhere they can grow, then when we compare the cost they incur at a dispensary ever month versus the cost of growing, adding in the cost of the space is ludicrous. Not a commercial operation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaveatLector Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Kinda funny, my first grow was in a condo. If you are buying specifically for a grow house then that is a different animal but I do think I could show comps that would be suitable for growing, let me know where that condo is. So yes you did answer the question but I disagree. If a patient is living somewhere they can grow, then when we compare the cost they incur at a dispensary ever month versus the cost of growing, adding in the cost of the space is ludicrous. Not a commercial operation. So if you were renting a room to a boarder would it be free of cost if you weren't already using the space? Would you give away free space in your pole barn for someone to store their crap just because you weren't using the space? The fact is it is your room and it has value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelscott Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 So if you were renting a room to a boarder would it be free of cost if you weren't already using the space? Would you give away free space in your pole barn for someone to store their crap just because you weren't using the space? The fact is it is your room and it has value. you guys are getting caught up on accounting here, does a patient growing for themselves consider the empty basement he grows in as part of how much his meds cost him? Are we not talking about how much it costs for a patient to grow for themselves. A patient growing does not add labor to the cost either. If your trimming instead of watching television, no reason to include in the cost. Are we bookkeeping or trying to get an actual cost to the grower. The question was raised that $ 20 an ounce was moo poo because you must expense the space you rent or own, a personal grower would not include that in his costs imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelscott Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Patient A lives in house that costs a million, he spends an average of thousand a month at the dispensary. Patient A decides he might as well grow it himself. Adding up the costs he realizes growing in that empty room will actually cost him 1500 a month for that space. Patient A goes back to dispensary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Patient A lives in house that costs a million, he spends an average of thousand a month at the dispensary. Patient A decides he might as well grow it himself. Adding up the costs he realizes growing in that empty room will actually cost him 1500 a month for that space. Patient A goes back to dispensary. Yes I think you see it the way I do now. Not many people living in a big, $1million dollar house have a lot of free time on their hands. The guy who lives in the $1million house.....his time, his space...is all worth worth than the average person who lives in a $100,000 house. There is a pretty good chance that said $1million house dweller guy earns $250,000+ per year. It probably isn't worth his time or space to grow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Another way to look at this.....if you're paying for a $1million home, you'd better be making about $100/hour at a full-time job. If I can earn $100/hour at a regular job I probably wouldn't want to spend a lot of time growing and processing cannabis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelscott Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Another way to look at this.....if you're paying for a $1million home, you'd better be making about $100/hour at a full-time job. If I can earn $100/hour at a regular job I probably wouldn't want to spend a lot of time growing and processing cannabis. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 back to the topic,,,, how much does it cost to run a 1000 watt 12 hours a day for 7 weeks,,? people using Lucas pulling 25 oz off 1000 light in 3 gallon bags of dirt about a 2 bucks to fill,..,,,, Hmmmmmmmmmm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nthlghts Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 ditto That's bulllshiiitt. Disagree? Then please show your accounting and it better be precise cause I'm calling you OUT! This is so misleading and unfortunate, aND ITS ALSO a great disservice the mmj Commmunity. In fact if you have any thot you are actually right and didn't just misspeak or mistype when you meant 120 an ounce TAKE UP THIS CHALLENGE AND JOURNAL YOUR 20 BUCK PER OUNCE GROW. PLEASE. Proof up, if you can, or revise that $20 to reflect the reality of costs that growers face. How much value did you give to space, whether rented or owned? That can be $20 an ounce itself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 100,000 for my home i will add that LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cristinew Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 (edited) Roughly $50 per month depending what you pay for a KW/h. Look at your electric bill... 1000w x 12 hours a day x days in a month x KW/h price so 7 weeks of 12 hour light about 80 bucks,,,, 25 oz off a 1000 watts many lucas growers do this 3 bucks worth of soil per plant, 4 bucks worth of nutes,,, add up to about 15 bucks per oz,... Edited March 8, 2013 by cristinew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted March 8, 2013 Report Share Posted March 8, 2013 Why? Because if you earn enough money to live in a million dollar home, your time is worth at least $100 per hour - not the maybe $10/hour you'd save by growing you own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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