Dr. Refuses To Offer Pain Relievers To Mmc Patient

[cosby]

My husband has now been refused all meds since the pain doctor found out about his m use.  As he has slowly came off the opiates, it is wonderful to once again see a more clear headed spouse, however the strong pain meds had been masking a newer neck ailment.   His blood pressure has sky-rocketed and his family doctor was at least willing to help with that.  However, as for the pain, you're on your own buddy.

He has suffered with a bad back fusion for years and now suffers with something wrong with his neck that causes terrible headaches, to the point of thowing up. 

He is now also suffering with body spasms, non-sleep, and pain that of course one medication alone, m, can't completely take care of.  (Even on the opiates, he was on two different types combined)  The doctor of course would not agree to prescribe a lower dose of opiate combined with m, something we consider a better approach. 

I hope he can live like this since I've loved this man since high school (over 30 years ago).  He say he will not go back to living under a opiate cloud.

Sad to see him suffering so when he should have the right to this treatment.  If anyone knows of a doctor in the Muskegon area that would take him on, please email me.  I am hoping we can find a doctor willing to try to help him find pain relief that includes medicinal marijuana. 

 

Cosby

Edited October 19, 2013 by cosby

[Dr. Bob]

This is the main reason I started a pain clinic over a year ago.  Best of luck.

 

Dr. Bob

[cosby]

Dr. Bob, could you please email me at cosbycreek@fastmail.fm

I tried to private message you but it says you do not take messages.  I have some questions.

Thank you.

Edited October 19, 2013 by cosby

[Dr. Bob]

try again

[phil57]

Wow after reading this thread I feel very blessed. A quick history, I have had several surgeries on my neck and was left with a mess. Not the Doc's fault just sometimes it works sometimes it don't. I stopped using a pain clinic because MPC sucks. I use my family doc for pain control as well as other health issues. My practice that my Doc is in has a policy against MM but after using everything from Methadone Fontanel Morphine Vicodin and others I called and made an appointment for the expressed reason to talk about MM. I was told that they didn't "do That' but made the appointment. My Doc came in the room with the MM paperwork in his hand. We filled it out and he said that he didn't work for the practice but with them and he would do what was best for his patients. What a concept.I have been able to cut my Morphine in half and down to 25 CPH from 150CPH on the Fentanal.  I sure hope I never need to shop for a new Doc.I am the second patient he has prescribed MM and he is very interested in how it is working and stays in contact to follow up. I have a great CP and although still in a lot of pain I am much better with out as much harsh narcotic and balancing it with MM. I guess I share this to say maybe there is hope that the medical community is coming around. The TV program about the little girl that was having seizures and was at deaths door until they tried MM may be getting some of our Doctors a reason to review their opposition to MM. Or maybe I just got lucky and found a good doctor.

[cosby]

Phil,

Very happy for you   It gives me hope that my husband can find some help.

I hope the day comes when he can also be allowed to both utilize medical marijuana and still be allowed lower doses of the other pain meds his condition requires.  Let's just hope he lives long enough to find a doctor since his blood pressure has been through the roof since they dumped him.

Good for your doctor! 

[redwood]

phil~ also very happy for you. 

 

to everyone else~ my partner is in the same situation too. if anyone ever finds a open minded doctor in the cheboygan/emmet county areas please pm me.

 

much appreciation and luck to everyone. 

[trichcycler]

OMG, these are some nightmares. I cannot wait until the truths start surfacing, and the healing begins

[cosby]

An update.  One visit so far to the hospital for intolerable pain and high blood pressure.

Have sent out letters to several local doctors requesting help.  One was kind enough to have their office call and decline.  The others didn't even bother to acknowledge letters.

Will continue to try to find a doctor that will treat mm patient with lower doses of opiates, but so far no luck at all.  It doesn't help that pain clinics now seem to have cornered the market on pain management period.

Still suffering.  No help from the "conventional" medical community so far.

[trichcycler]

I wonder why the medical board decided to move in that direction?  With a "First I'll do no harm" approach, it seems right to start with a natural remedy more than 10,000 years old that has no deaths reported, readily available, and legal in the state.  silly world we have, when the same board decides it's ok to advertise prescription drugs direct to consumers, to remind their physicians. rx with proven dangerous undesired effects. 

 

Are physicians in private torn apart in the cannabis scene?

[Dr. Bob]

I wonder why the medical board decided to move in that direction?  With a "First I'll do no harm" approach, it seems right to start with a natural remedy more than 10,000 years old that has no deaths reported, readily available, and legal in the state.  silly world we have, when the same board decides it's ok to advertise prescription drugs direct to consumers, to remind their physicians. rx with proven dangerous undesired effects. 

 

Are physicians in private torn apart in the cannabis scene?

Yes they are.  They are also under orders from their employers, lawyers, insurance companies not to participate.

 

I don't have a dang thing to do with cannabis, nor is my practice devoted to it (mostly pain management and suboxone), yet because I certify patients I am denied insurance, bankings services, etc on a regular basis- as if I was a dispensary or whatever.

 

Doctors don't like to be in that position.  I don't either, but am doing what I do because I believe in it.  My patients went off pain meds and PROVED to me it worked, and the rest is history.

 

Dr. Bob

[GregS]

An update.  One visit so far to the hospital for intolerable pain and high blood pressure.

Have sent out letters to several local doctors requesting help.  One was kind enough to have their office call and decline.  The others didn't even bother to acknowledge letters.

Will continue to try to find a doctor that will treat mm patient with lower doses of opiates, but so far no luck at all.  It doesn't help that pain clinics now seem to have cornered the market on pain management period.

Still suffering.  No help from the "conventional" medical community so far.

If you are up for a trip to Saginaw, Dr. Paul Meyer performs certification and excellent follow up. I know a number of patients who are seriously debilitated who he follows with for much more than cannabis use, and that as a complementary therapy to their other treatment. Give him a call. I wonder if the good Dr. Townsend would prescribe  the lower narcotic doses you seek.

Edited November 9, 2013 by GregS

[bobandtorey]

I wonder why the medical board decided to move in that direction?  With a "First I'll do no harm" approach, it seems right to start with a natural remedy more than 10,000 years old that has no deaths reported, readily available, and legal in the state.  silly world we have, when the same board decides it's ok to advertise prescription drugs direct to consumers, to remind their physicians. rx with proven dangerous undesired effects. 

 

Are physicians in private torn apart in the cannabis scene?

You Think !

[trichcycler]

thank you for your sacrifices in the industry. I cant help be reminded that the general physicians boss IS the drug company, slated to lose $$ when mj is freed.

This seems like a real tough one to beat for you and me. After all I've seen EVERY cancer remedy ripped apart by them, and billions spent (from the "cancer research funds) to squash possible natural treatments with the "nothing treats illness except prescription medication" as if we suffer from their deficiency.

 

We're just sheep, but how could the industry let this happen to us with so many good people working in it?  I think our experience here would be better if some things were not commodities, like food, medicine, incidentally controlled by one entity-with several big pharma workers at its helm.

 

Do you see a happy ending to this plight?

Yes they are.  They are also under orders from their employers, lawyers, insurance companies not to participate.

 

I don't have a dang thing to do with cannabis, nor is my practice devoted to it (mostly pain management and suboxone), yet because I certify patients I am denied insurance, bankings services, etc on a regular basis- as if I was a dispensary or whatever.

 

Doctors don't like to be in that position.  I don't either, but am doing what I do because I believe in it.  My patients went off pain meds and PROVED to me it worked, and the rest is history.

 

Dr. Bob

[cosby]

Just an update.  Still dealing with stroke level blood pressure readings due to pain.  In the past three months have blown through probably about 10 grand in doctor, hospital, X-ray and MRI tests. 

 

We already know that the damage is there and that pain meds are needed.  Just trying to jump through all the expensive hoops.  Still no one will prescribe meds.  Have good expensive insurance.  Should know within a week or two if we can find a doctor willing to prescribe meds..... if the blood pressure doesn't kill the hubby first. 

[GregS]

How 'bout it B*B?

 

B*B?

 

BoB??

Edited December 3, 2013 by GregS

[cosby]

I would like to first say that I have been in touch with Dr. Bob and I believe in many cases, he can help.

 

However, we need to use our health insurance.

 

In the past month, we have found out my husband now requires a fusion surgery.  Our insurance has paid out well over $10,000 in recent months for xrays, mri, doctor and specialist visits..... AND STILL NO ONE IS WILLING TO PRESCRIBE HIM A PAIN MEDICATION!  IT HAS BEEN UNBELIEVEABLE.  He is still in terrible pain and with blood pressure readings off the charts. 

 

We would urge folks that require opiates due to chronic pain to insure with your doctor first that you will not lose the medications you require by supplementing them with medical marijuana.  Or, keep your mouth shut.  We have learned the hard way that telling the truth to your doctor is sadly not the way to go.

It has been our experience that the medical community would rather leave you at risk of dying by high blood pressure stroke/heart attack then prescribe you a pain medication while you are utilizing medicinal marijuana. 

 

I don't want to see anyone else worried that they might come home from work everyday to find their husband is dead because the medical community had tossed him away.

Edited December 7, 2013 by cosby

[jointedone]

Keep your mouth shut. You tell ONE DR,he tells all his buddies and no one will take you as a pt. They stick together. Instead of making themselves more informed about MMJ,they refuse. You cannot trust them. I don't care how long you have had them,no matter what,a Dr can DUMP you for any reason he wants to. If you use tobacco in any way,DON'T TELL. With govt taking over health care,and the IRS running it, you better believe that you are and will be watched. Through FB,other social sites,including this one,sites with forums for medical conditions. And if you think your own Dr will NOT look you up on FB,you are a fool. Trust NO ONE,especially strangers that try to become friends with you on websites. All they want is info on you. Google your own name. Yes,you will be there. 

[trichcycler]

nobody gonna see me, I spelled grassmatch the wrong way to outwit 'em !  me so smarts

[jointedone]

Grass,I really cannot tell if you are joking with me or mocking me,whatever makes you feel better,go ahead.

[beourbud]

Grass,I really cannot tell if you are joking with me or mocking me,whatever makes you feel better,go ahead.

He is showing his true color. He has the personality of a dispensary owner. Ron Popeil on the outside and bernie maddoff on the inside Edited December 9, 2013 by beourbud

[jointedone]

Bernie "madoof" is in jail where he should be. But the people he ripped will get nothing back.If you want to make $$ on the market,go for oil companies and pharmaceuticals. You are welcome for the free advice. Work INSIDE the system and take advantage of it.

[trichcycler]

was joking with the comment of internet transparency. I once heard my aunt say something similar "cant happen here, I never use my real name online" she said, and your true comment made me think of a silly example of how some may think. I'm a tinfoil hat kinda guy myself, so...  really had nothing to do with you, only an excerpt of your post. glad I used it though, so beourbud could finally say whats on his mind.

Grass,I really cannot tell if you are joking with me or mocking me,whatever makes you feel better,go ahead.

[beourbud]

and that reminds me....gotta pic up my add meds

[beourbud]

was joking with the comment of internet transparency. I once heard my aunt say something similar "cant happen here, I never use my real name online" she said, and your true comment made me think of a silly example of how some may think. I'm a tinfoil hat kinda guy myself, so...  really had nothing to do with you, only an excerpt of your post. glad I used it though, so beourbud could finally say whats on his mind.

you are a slippery rascal.. never get in a hole you cant back out of...lol