pic book Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 (edited) It is the best reason for growing your own that i know of... With concentrates forbidden by the courts why not take advantage of getting potency 10-15 times greater than by smoking it? edit: i am wrong on the potency. Edited April 21, 2014 by pic book Whexissilla, CeptGloplebot and Embodobby 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imiubu Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 pic you started another thread exactly like this yet had not posted any references. I replied to you that chemistry has proven that our bodies do not utilize the 'A' (acids) raw, as they do once decarboxylated. If you have something other than your experience to share, I am very interested in seeing some links I have read on juicing cannabis and other 'raw' forms of ingestion... yet I have seen no scientific (I know, I know) evidence stating any benefits of using raw cannabis. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 I think "potency" is subjective, and I'm curious why you believe the ingestion of raw cannabis is more "potent" than smoking ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 I definitely know of health benefits to increasing your fiber intake, and I bet the roughage does a swell job of cleaning one's digestive system out, mine anyways, and nothing but a substandard effect has ever resulted from the tightest fire available. maybe my personal chemistry, but I doubt eating raw, fresh cannabis has any "potency" advantages, depending on potency definition? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imiubu Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 I definitely know of health benefits to increasing your fiber intake, and I bet the roughage does a swell job of cleaning one's digestive system out, mine anyways, and nothing but a substandard effect has ever resulted from the tightest fire available. maybe my personal chemistry, but I doubt eating raw, fresh cannabis has any "potency" advantages, depending on potency definition? Oh, I do not doubt that there are health benefits as you describe, fiber, etc... I just wonder if eating raw cannabis is substantially 'better' than say... kale, cabbage, romaine, broccoli, etc... I am just wondering if there is any efficacy provided that is more beneficial than other 'greens'. I think that if using raw cannabis, IF proven to be good as medicine, I am all in Too danged expensive for me atm to experiment though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 eat your scissor hash, you'll see. then puff some it....you'll see better, then that nasty feeling goes away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guanotea1 Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 I did it once my first grow. That the plant looked delicious, and I figured it wouldn't harm me. No harm noticed. Not very tasty though. No noticable effect either. Haha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted November 2, 2013 Report Share Posted November 2, 2013 I frequently eat the little stem/leaf that I pinch off between thumb and forefinger when I top my plants. I haven't noticed any positive or negative effect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 hmmm, looking for 10-15 x the potency report....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imiubu Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 (edited) eat your scissor hash, you'll see. then puff some it....you'll see better, then that nasty feeling goes away Other peeps tell me they eat their sh and get buzzed. I never thought to eat it, I smoke it, lol. (hey... is that considered a 'concentrate' now per the COA ?) I never thought it would taste good, kinda like the gooey that sticks on your lips from the end of a doobie I tried eating dry bud b4... way worse than trying to eat an entire pretzle at once (old bar trick) lol. Do the trichomes on the fresh bud feel like a cats tongue feels, on your tongue? Then.... there is bhang of course for centuries... utilizing the fresh bud & extracting the thc w/ heat. How about some Hot Buttered Bhang ? http://www.holifestival.org/bhang-recipes.html Hot Buttered Bhang Ingredients half a cube (1/8 pound) of butter or ghee 1/3 - 1/2 oz. Of Marijuana Leaves 8 ounces of Vodka 1-2 pinches Cardamom seed honey edited to edit Edited November 3, 2013 by imiubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrassMonkey Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Raw cannabis is non-psychoactive, and is the way it was used for hundreds of thousands of year like our hunter and gatherer ancestors. - See more at: http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/raw-cannabis-juice-helps-young-woman-ditch-40-medications/#sthash.op93HGAc.dpuf http://tv.greenmedinfo.com/raw-cannabis-juice-helps-young-woman-ditch-40-medications/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guanotea1 Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Makes me wish there were more doctors like the one in the video. I don't know anything about medicine so he could be blowing smoke. But he obviously cares about his patients, and gives them patient specific recommendations regarding their cannabis use. I think that's awesome! When I encounter a very sick person who wants to be my patient, I'd like for them to get more for their $100-$150 than just the form filled out so we can get down to bitness. I mean at the point when someone has 1-5 serious, chronic, painful, documented conditions the cert doc visit is really just a formality. Obviously they are going to get their card. I spend less than $100 (cash price) to see a dermatologist,and his lovely assistant, and they do a hell of a lot more than the cert centers I've been around. They'll talk to me about my condition, run through different treatment options, check me out, see whats working etc etc. At the end of the day I end up with a script that says exactly what they think I should do in no uncertain terms. If I got a doc's note saying provide so-and-so with 1 small mature strain x plant a week for juicing purposes I'd think was pretty neat. High grade hash? Pharmaceutical grade BHO? Hot butter extract? Kief in a 500mg capsule? Fugi Kush flowers haha whatever the note said I'd be thrilled and would get it done proper. Make it part of a treatment program not something done in the dark and we'd gain 1000x more legitimacy. It goes without saying that this would work best with patients who already make regular trips to the doc's. I have 2 patients that could benefit. Bigsissy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 not sure if scissor wash is illegal, or tea, or even charas-hand rubbed flowers, though it doesn't change a thing for me. I don't get hassled, nobody knows what I do, nobody smells it, or sees it except my five, and I follow the laws to the T, and I loves me scissor hash and tea, sometimes at the same time ! I think if the op is deriving pleasure from his edible fresh flowers, maybe he could describe the subtle differences in taste, texture, and effect of the different strains sampled? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickeydee Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Raw plant material upsets my stomach. Resin or plant material doesn't seem to matter. Not intense pain, just makes me a little crampy and uncomfortable....every time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeacePipe Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 I do not eat Bud unless it has been decarboxylated with heat . THCA is not psychoactive and once the COO molecule (Carbon) is released it becomes THC in its psychoactive state . Eating raw cannabis has many health beneficial's when it comes to Cannabinoids and healing along with boosting ones Endocannibinoid sysyem, but there is no real worthwhile noted mental effect when eating bud unless you have zero tolerance . It has been debated though that the human body can/does decarbox THCA, but to what extent is the question , ask anyone with a tolerance and they will have no effects mentally when eating raw cannabis .. Decarbox & consume the same amount and the same guinea pig will have a big cheezy grin as a result . Respectfully , Peace Pipe Cannabisdevotee 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Bahddda Boom !! thanks ! I do not eat Bud unless it has been decarboxylated with heat . THCA is not psychoactive and once the COO molecule (Carbon) is released it becomes THC in its psychoactive state . Eating raw cannabis has many health beneficial's when it comes to Cannabinoids and healing along with boosting ones Endocannibinoid sysyem, but there is no real worthwhile noted mental effect when eating bud unless you have zero tolerance . It has been debated though that the human body can/does decarbox THCA, but to what extent is the question , ask anyone with a tolerance and they will have no effects mentally when eating raw cannabis .. Decarbox & consume the same amount and the same guinea pig will have a big cheezy grin as a result . Respectfully , Peace Pipe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeacePipe Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Bahddda Boom !! thanks ! Thank you grassmatch , I would also like to address the comments you made about eating hash . Extracts and oral consumption can be a whole different world of chemistry than actual plant matter due to the variables . I have eaten my fair share of hashish and I do enjoy the effects of it verses smoking to be honest but then again I am not a big fan of most extracts as I always find them to lack in character compared to the actual said flowers and the combination of terpenes that are included in consumption, Scissor Hash and other fresh extracts though on the other hand, tend to be more balanced in effect in my humble opinion again . The famous Hashish Club of Paris consumed hash in the form known to them as dawamesk (hashish, cinnamon, cloves, nutmeg, pistachio, sugar, orange juice, butter and cantharides) , the last ingredient cantharides is known commonly as Spanish Fly . I think before I say more I should think about posting or constructing a post about Hashish and its history .. Respectfully, PeacePipe . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaquetoo Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Other peeps tell me they eat their sh and get buzzed. I never thought to eat it, I smoke it, lol. (hey... is that considered a 'concentrate' now per the COA ?) I never thought it would taste good, kinda like the gooey that sticks on your lips from the end of a doobie I tried eating dry bud b4... way worse than trying to eat an entire pretzle at once (old bar trick) lol. Do the trichomes on the fresh bud feel like a cats tongue feels, on your tongue? Then.... there is bhang of course for centuries... utilizing the fresh bud & extracting the thc w/ heat. How about some Hot Buttered Bhang ? http://www.holifestival.org/bhang-recipes.html Hot Buttered Bhang Ingredients half a cube (1/8 pound) of butter or ghee 1/3 - 1/2 oz. Of Marijuana Leaves 8 ounces of Vodka 1-2 pinches Cardamom seed honey edited to edit I used to make mm vodka lol, but since I no longer drink vodka no need to make it green, I never noticed the mm any how, boy I noticed the vodka though (an old bar trick bawahahahaha) eat your roaches and you will feel it, if you just like the taiste of fresh buds go for it, im sure something works in it for ya, just like juicing, juicing is done with plants in veg, so no buds there its only the cbd's or some of them not thc. vape your buds and eat whats left over, that works, fresh or any weed has to be carbolized or how ever the heck ya spell it, to release the thc in it, and lets face it most people do enjoy the mellow from mm along with the curing effects, and Im pretty sure the cbd's work much better with active thc, Ive chewed on buddz for the fun of it, but id prefer to vape it or smoke it, you can bake cookies or brownies with fresh buddz and it does one heck of a good job decarbing it! I still prefer to eat honey oil, but thats not a legal choice any longer. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 realistically, neither is growing cannabis, which will levy much higher penalties than a three minute blast and a swallow. don't drive, don't break anyother obvious laws to get ourself noticed inside of your home with the curtains closed, no worries brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaquetoo Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 realistically, neither is growing cannabis, which will levy much higher penalties than a three minute blast and a swallow. don't drive, don't break anyother obvious laws to get ourself noticed inside of your home with the curtains closed, no worries brother. Oh god im gonna be 51, I have to find a place to hide! Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imiubu Posted November 3, 2013 Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 Oh god im gonna be 51, I have to find a place to hide! Peace Oh my, lmfso!!! My point I guess is that I have found no reason to eat or juice raw cannabis that is compelling enough to take the chance on wasting it in experimentation Cripes, have you ever looked at the prices for just a good juicer... not in my budget LOL! I sorta miss some of those old bar 'tricks' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pic book Posted November 3, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2013 not sure if scissor wash is illegal, or tea, or even charas-hand rubbed flowers, though it doesn't change a thing for me. I don't get hassled, nobody knows what I do, nobody smells it, or sees it except my five, and I follow the laws to the T, and I loves me scissor hash and tea, sometimes at the same time ! I think if the op is deriving pleasure from his edible fresh flowers, maybe he could describe the subtle differences in taste, texture, and effect of the different strains sampled? jillybean is softer to the tongue than lettuce, and feels like wet jel, spicy and fruity at once, strong but pleasant to the nosee, and the buds themselves are moist, like dipped in water but the water is inside. myh buddy says it is like eating p-----. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abe supercro Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 heh. some sativa budding leaves r more delicate less throat scatchy. maybe sautéed in coconut oil.. ive taken those and few raw buds and olive oiled on grill for 10-15 to garnish salmon or tofurkey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phaquetoo Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 heh. some sativa budding leaves r more delicate less throat scatchy. maybe sautéed in coconut oil.. ive taken those and few raw buds and olive oiled on grill for 10-15 to garnish salmon or tofurkey as long as your temp is not to high or to low you are carbolizing it and you can see all of the usable mm, so id have to say it is legal, but id do a lil more than garnish, so when you take that nap after dinner you dont wake up till morning lol! Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abe supercro Posted November 4, 2013 Report Share Posted November 4, 2013 yeah you have to ride that wave w not way over-heating yer green but still decarbing. ez tho if yer already grillin.. maybe chop up fine to make less scratchy, oil/butter helps make it more palatable too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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