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According To A Top-Level Nsa Agent, We Are Now Officially A Police State

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32-year NSA Veteran Who Created Mass Surveillance System Says Government Use of Data Gathered Through Spying “Is a Totalitarian Process”

Bill Binney is the high-level NSA executive who created the agency’s mass surveillance program for digital information. A 32-year NSA veteran widely regarded as a “legend” within the agency, Binney was the senior technical director within the agency and managed thousands of NSA employees.


Binney has been interviewed by virtually all of the mainstream media, including CBS, ABC, CNN, New York Times, USA Today, Fox News, PBS and many others.


Last year, Binney held his thumb and forefinger close together, and said:


We are, like, that far from a turnkey totalitarian state.


But today, Binney told Washington’s Blog that the U.S. has already become a police state.


By way of background, the government is spying on virtually everything we do.


All of the information gained by the NSA through spying is then shared with federal, state and local agencies, and they are using that information to prosecute petty crimes such as drugs and taxes. The agencies are instructed to intentionally “launder” the information gained through spying, i.e. to pretend that they got the information in a more legitimate way … and to hide that from defense attorneys and judges.


This is a bigger deal than you may realize, as legal experts say that there are so many federal and state laws in the United States, that no one can keep track of them all … and everyone violates laws every day without even knowing it.


The NSA also ships Americans’ most confidential, sensitive information to foreign countries like Israel (and here), the UK and other countries … so they can “unmask” the information and give it back to the NSA … or use it for their own purposes.


Binney told us today:


The main use of the collection from these [NSA spying] programs [is] for law enforcement. [see the 2 slides below].


These slides give the policy of the DOJ/FBI/DEA etc. on how to use the NSA data. In fact, they instruct that none of the NSA data is referred to in courts – cause it has been acquired without a warrant.


So, they have to do a “Parallel Construction” and not tell the courts or prosecution or defense the original data used to arrest people. This I call: a “planned programed perjury policy” directed by US law enforcement.


And, as the last line on one slide says, this also applies to “Foreign Counterparts.”


This is a total corruption of the justice system not only in our country but around the world. The source of the info is at the bottom of each slide. This is a totalitarian process – means we are now in a police state.


Here are the two slides which Binney pointed us to:


A slide from a presentation about a secretive information-sharing program run by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration's Special Operations Division (SOD) is seen in this undated photo (Reuters / John Shiffman)


A slide from a presentation about a secretive information-sharing program run by the U.S. Drug Enforcement Administration's Special Operations Division (SOD) is seen in this undated photo (Reuters / John Shiffman)


(Source: Reuters via RT; SOD stands for “Special Operations Division,” a branch of the Drug Enforcement Agency responsible for laundering information gathered by the NSA.)


We asked Binney a follow-up question:


You say “this also applies to ‘Foreign Counterparts.’” Does that mean that foreign agencies can also “launder” the info gained from NSA spying? Or that data gained through foreign agencies’ spying can be “laundered” and used by U.S. agencies?


Binney responded:


For countries like the five eyes (US, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand) and probably some others it probably works both ways. But for others that have relationships with FBI or DEA etc., they probably are given the data to used to arrest people but are not told the source or given copies of the data.


(See this for background on the five eyes.)


View past discussions between Washington’s Blog and Binney here, here, here and here.



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i want to see one of these fema camps. would be an interesting tourist destination.



Camp Grayling - Michigan Nat'l Guard base has several confirmed detention camps, classic setup with high fences, razor wire, etc. Guard towers are very well-built, sturdy. Multiple compounds within larger enclosures. Facility deep within forest area. Sawyer AFB - Upper Peninsula - south of Marquette - No data available. Bay City - Classic enclosure with guard towers, high fence, and close to shipping port on Saginaw Bay, which connects to Lake Huron. Could be a deportation point to overseas via St. Lawrence Seaway. Southwest - possibly Berrien County - FEMA detention center. Lansing - FEMA detention facility.


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Things are opening up for Edward Snowden to reveal more and more. He is the Daniel Ellsberg of our time. We can count the lambasting the government is taking over the issue to his credit.


Do ya think this post will be scrutinized?

I would say since you mention his name that is a firm yes sniffing programs found your post.
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i want to see one of these fema camps. would be an interesting tourist destination.


You do understand the United States has been blanketed by concentration camps and internment camps at various times in its brief history?


My grandmother dated a nazi pilot interned in a prisoner of war camp in Illinois.  Italians, Germans and Japanese were all groups of people that were interned or their movements were controlled during WWII.  The camps are in place for an untold upcoming event or total global conflict, WWIII.

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