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I dont use any of the nutes at full strength most are to strong and its best to use 1/2 or less and see what your plants say!

 

check your ph and dont give em nutes for a few waterings, It would help more if you said how old they were. they do look pretty young in veg, so I would have no problem clipping them leaves off!  but still do the above.

 

 

I hope that helps you!

 

Peace

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Don't water until the soil is dry to a depth of one or two inches. Try adding some CalMag (Botanicare). Plants can generally handle more organic nutrients than inorganic fertilizers.

 

If your lights are fluorescent then 6 inches is ok. If they are metal halide or high pressure sodium then they need to be 18 to 24 inches from the top of the plants. Watch the pH of the soil. Catch some run off from watering and test. Keep it between 5.8 and 7.

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Thank you, I will pick up a ph tester on Thursday. I wasn't sure if our softened water was an issue? As far as the age, we'll I bought them about not quite 3 weeks ago and they were about 5 inches tall and had a few thin leaves. Augh! So far for this grow , I have more notes in the column for "need to do/remember" that for what I've done!

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if you have a water softener you are slowly poisoning your girls.

 

soft water has too much salt in it.

 

from what i read softened water is a big no no... much like using city water without bubbling it (which i have been reading about again and it turns out most of the time that will not remove any chloramine) which may be a HUGE issue causing so many people to suffer all kinds of issues such as ph lock out.

 

check your water.

 

don't over feed or over water... if you followed the directions of a liquid nutrient it is likely you burned the plants with way to much nutes.. most often with younger plants you will want to cut the recommended nute level on the bottle in half (at the most) or even less.. when plants are young,

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Grrrrr! Three of them look even worse today! The Case Jones, Caremel Ice and Ace of Spades. I am using a T 5 light. I lowered them today to about 10-12 inches from the light. In the last 36 hours they did have a huge growth spurt. They were placed at 6-8 inches from the light. I had done the hand test under the light and it had not seemed too hot but maybe it was? Also, I wonder now if my ignorance killed them? I had a long mirror placed along the outside side of the light, thinking this would help with heat and concentrating light, but it's the three nearest the mirror that look the worst. I took down the mirror and rotated the plants. Today I will be in the city and will pick up a ph tester and that grow book everyone is talking about.

 

Right now the plants are between 7 and 10 inches tall, is it too late to remove the browning leaves? If not, do I just snip them off or is there a certain way I have to do it?

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I grow hydro so take this with a grain of salt. It looks to me like nute burn. T5's shouldn't burn unless they are touching.

 

My best suggestion would be to get some fresh soil with no fertilizers added. Transplant them into the new soil and water with distilled water for a while and see how they respond to that. After you water them don't water again until the container feels light.

 

Don't trim anything off until they start looking healthy again.

 

I'd lose the mirror too and go with flat white to reflect the light. Mirrors can sometimes cause hot spots.

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if you have a water softener you are slowly poisoning your girls.

 

soft water has too much salt in it.

 

from what i read softened water is a big no no... much like using city water without bubbling it (which i have been reading about again and it turns out most of the time that will not remove any chloramine) which may be a HUGE issue causing so many people to suffer all kinds of issues such as ph lock out.

 

check your water.

 

don't over feed or over water... if you followed the directions of a liquid nutrient it is likely you burned the plants with way to much nutes.. most often with younger plants you will want to cut the recommended nute level on the bottle in half (at the most) or even less.. when plants are young,

I have used soft water since day one. I have had no issues due to soft water.

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Unfortunately all of our faucets are hooked up to the water softener, even the outdoor hose ( not sure why, it's been that way since we bought the house) I am looking to change that but never got around to it. Now with my house plants and outdoor garden, I've never had a problem with the softener, not say it's not an issue. But I did wonder, when the power went out and I drained the lines, then when I reconnected everything, the softener did put out a surge of overly softened water for a bit. I can always tell by the smell.

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Oh t-pain, I hope you weren't being sarcastic, I'm a "wanna-be prepper" and that right up my alley! I tested the ph today. My water a lone is at a 7. When I watered the plants and caught the run off, it was a 6. I tested this several times with both and the answers we're consistent. Also, I bought the infamous book everyone has recommended, so maybe I can stop bothering everyone with my elementary questions teehee!

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Unfortunately all of our faucets are hooked up to the water softener, even the outdoor hose ( not sure why, it's been that way since we bought the house) I am looking to change that but never got around to it. Now with my house plants and outdoor garden, I've never had a problem with the softener, not say it's not an issue. But I did wonder, when the power went out and I drained the lines, then when I reconnected everything, the softener did put out a surge of overly softened water for a bit. I can always tell by the smell.

If you have a company doing your water softner have them put an r.o in, I have one in my kitchen sink, my sink is deep enough to hold a 3.5 bucket of water, just a thought, plus distilled water is only like a buck for 2.5 gallons of water at your local groceri store. I know it is that cheap at yours becuase it is at mine and I live in a 1 horse town!

 

Your plants are small enough to trim the dead leaf's off, and most def get rid of the mirror, if you want me to send you a copy of a grow bible that you can read online for free pm me with your email and I will send you the link!

 

most growers up my way have an r.o or they do what I did, my water is not drinkable even with the softener, we use culligan and anyone in my area who has to use culligan from west branch should fire them the owner is an arse hole even his workers will tell you that!

 

I had a major ph problem with my water, it is best to have your self a big resivour like a brand new 33. gal garbage can, mix your nutes (never use full strength nutes, start with 1/3 and go from there) put it in the res and put a few bubblers in there and check the ph and nutes for at least 5 days to a week to see if your ph is jumping up and down, once you get it where you want it and it stays than use it!

 

your going to ask one question and if 20 people answer it you will most likly get 20 answers, im not saying mine is right or wrong, it is just the way it is, every one has there own set up that works for them and it may not work for you, a grow bible and youtube is your best friend in these circumstances!

 

Personaly I would only wait a few more days before I cut them dead leaf's off, you can cut on your vegged plants up until 2 to 3 wks before you put them in budd!

 

Peace

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Thank you phaquetoo, I purchased the book yesterday and have today off. It must be a thing with Culligan owners" when we bought our house 18 years ago there was a Culligan water softner the was being rented by the previous owner. For a 5 year old softner, they were charging $90 a month. When I wanted to get our of the rental a year after we bought the house, they told me the purchase price was $2,500. The Culligan owner lives down the road from me and he and his wife walked over one day and she says to me " why don't we get that purchase of the softener squared away, we want to keep things neighborly, don't we"?. The next day I called them and told them to pick the unit up, it is siting on my patio. I had also thought about a water filter for the sink.

 

I was surprised to see the ph of the run off wasn't too bad though.

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Oh t-pain, I hope you weren't being sarcastic, I'm a "wanna-be prepper" and that right up my alley!

not at all. if you have a 55gal barrel (or leak proof trash can, tub, buckets) , fill it with snow a few times and let it melt.

snow/rain water is perfect for plants as long as its room temperature

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not at all. if you have a 55gal barrel (or leak proof trash can, tub, buckets) , fill it with snow a few times and let it melt.

snow/rain water is perfect for plants as long as its room temperature

 

I have tested rainwater many times and always find the pH to be around or under 5.7.  I've also tested snow many times and never found a pH of less than 7.0.  Then I did so reading and learned that snow has a high pH due to particles in the snow flakes.

 

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/wea00/wea00342.htm

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I have tested rainwater many times and always find the pH to be around or under 5.7.  I've also tested snow many times and never found a pH of less than 7.0.  Then I did so reading and learned that snow has a high pH due to particles in the snow flakes.

 

http://www.newton.dep.anl.gov/askasci/wea00/wea00342.htm

i dont doubt it. but also these plants were around before we existed on this planet, and they didnt have culligan.

so i'm good with giving them rainwater and melted snow :P

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i dont doubt it. but also these plants were around before we existed on this planet, and they didnt have culligan.

so i'm good with giving them rainwater and melted snow :P

 

Yeah me too.  But I fell into a silly trap a few years ago.  I thought my pH meter was bad because the melted snow came back so high.  Just one of those things people should know.

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