My Landrace Paki's

[dondjinn]

These are being used by 2 breeders currently not sure if either has released crosses on them since I've been outta the loop for a while. One of which is G.O.D. He was given 10 to sort through from a mutual friend with the promise he wouldn't work them. Yea, 6 months later I see them due to release crossed to Aliendawg. Heard the keeper pheno was re-named and has been getting passed around out West. To date of the 20 I gave away I am aware of 5 stellar keeper phenos. All of which having Afghanica characteristics.

 

 

Pure Landrace from Peshawar Pakistan

I'll try to keep this short... So was talking a few months ago at a Dr Clinic at the club and had the opportunity to sit down with an ex marine who was stationed neat Peshawar on the Afgani/Paki border. He described watching the women of the village process cannibis plants all day long. And how the men sat in tents all day pressing and smoking it. At any rate during his time there walking around he ended up near one of the processing piles. This pile was a pile of seeds. He grabbed as many as he could. About a small handful. And managed to keep them safe until getting them back to the states. He promised me a few for preservation purposes. Never thought I'd hear back from him until Wednesday night he strolls into the club and hands me a small ziplock baggie containing 61 seeds. He said he grew one outdoors and it turned purple so he brought it indoors stressing it to the point of death. He felt like bunny muffin for doing such a crappy job and wanted to make sure they were takin care of properly. At any rate was curious if any xxxxxxxx had any exp. With hash plants from this region.

Thanks

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[trichcycler]

yup, all the time. yummy, messy, greasy joints always result.

[dondjinn]

Yea, I know how the game goes not a biggie. Still have 30 or so, some of which I'll be letting go of.

Peace

[trichcycler]

I love them all. I don't recall sampling an affi I didn't enjoy. did you ever get those packs from DNA ? I've got dozens and always throw a few beans of them in the mix. a lot of different pheno's all awesome so far,  cant imagine having to choose the best!  what a job, somebody's got to do it

[dondjinn]

Heard mixed reviews on the Affi's from DNA. I got kinda lazy last year growing and just ran with Clone Only's. Chem '91, Chem 3, Chem 4, Mcfly, and Grit Dawg were pretty much all I ran after I lost my 26.52% THC pheno of Wifi. If I ever get back growing I think I'll drop both packs of Wifi I have left and dig out a couple more winners along with the S2's of OG 18 I made with Reserva's cut. That stuff was uber dank and ran it non stop for 2 years in every rotation.

Peace

[AmishRnot4ganja]

These are being used by 2 breeders currently not sure if either has released crosses on them since I've been outta the loop for a while. One of which is G.O.D. He was given 10 to sort through from a mutual friend with the promise he wouldn't work them. Yea, 6 months later I see them due to release crossed to Aliendawg. Heard the keeper pheno was re-named and has been getting passed around out West. To date of the 20 I gave away I am aware of 5 stellar keeper phenos. All of which having Afghanica characteristics.

 

 

Pure Landrace from Peshawar Pakistan

I'll try to keep this short... So was talking a few months ago at a Dr Clinic at the club and had the opportunity to sit down with an ex marine who was stationed neat Peshawar on the Afgani/Paki border. He described watching the women of the village process cannibis plants all day long. And how the men sat in tents all day pressing and smoking it. At any rate during his time there walking around he ended up near one of the processing piles. This pile was a pile of seeds. He grabbed as many as he could. About a small handful. And managed to keep them safe until getting them back to the states. He promised me a few for preservation purposes. Never thought I'd hear back from him until Wednesday night he strolls into the club and hands me a small ziplock baggie containing 61 seeds. He said he grew one outdoors and it turned purple so he brought it indoors stressing it to the point of death. He felt like bunny muffin for doing such a crappy job and wanted to make sure they were takin care of properly. At any rate was curious if any xxxxxxxx had any exp. With hash plants from this region.

Thanks

__________________

Friends are like seeds. Run Through Hundreds, To Find A FEW Keepers...

UG

 

 

Awesome.

[Wild Bill]

I think we should try to grow more landrace strains. With so many hybrids it's difficult to find anything that is a true breed anymore.

 

Although they don't always do well inside after acclimating to whatever their natural conditions were over x generations.

[dondjinn]

Well if its landrace your interested in, head over to the classifieds section. I've got some Nigerians listed there to. The Lemon Thai Sativa listed there is the same Dutch Flowers variety that quite a few breeders based much work off of.

Peace

[purple pimpernel]

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Edited January 27, 2014 by purple pimpernel

[dondjinn]

I grew out a few Landrace Thai's about 3-4 years ago. After week 26 of bloom and looking at flowers still covered in white pistils I finally chopped them down. But wow the flavor and aroma were amazing. Straight lemon zest. The high made u feel like u just drank 2 pots of the strongest coffee on earth. Speed racer meds lol. I took clones early on but all auto flowered after rooting so the line couldn't be continued. In retrospect I would have shortened the lights on cycle to 14 off 10 on and I bet I could have finished them. Oh well.

Peace

[Wild Bill]

I was growing a Nepali sativa and it took a couple tries to get a female. When I did it grew at an amazing rate and then suddenly died overnight for no apparent reason. I just put another in to germinate, we'll see how this one turns out.

 

I've got seeds for three African landraces but haven't done anything with them yet. Malawi Gold, Zambezi and Drakensberg.

[dondjinn]

Just outta curiosity how do U know it to be a Sativa? Elevation will murder strains at a certain point overnight. I watched it happen to a friend with the Tahoe OG clone only. She just doesn't like to grow with so much O2. Bottled fert's will also do that. It's always best to just lightly amend soil when taking a first crack at most strains. Look into Happy Frog 5-8-4 in your next run with that strain and feed lightly with big bloom only and see how that works out for u. As with most strains, less is more IME.

Peace

[landraceseeds]

one of the very best landrace comes from mazar  i sharif in afganistan.

Strain: Mazar-i-Sharif
Genetics: Pure Afghan Charas Cultigen 
Sourcing: Afghan  Peshawar 
Purpose: Charas (sieved) 
Latitude: 36° N 
Harvest: October 
Height: 2 - 4 meters outdoors 
Characteristics: High-yielding; tall; and very resinous
This is the authentic Mazar-i-Sharif strain known to Afghan farmers as 'Mazari', 'Balkhi', or 'Mazar-i-Sharif'. Please note that if a source is selling a small, short strain as 'Mazar-i-Sharif' this is a sure sign that the source is unreliable. The true Mazar-i-Sharif is large and high-yielding, exhibiting plants that can be broad- to narrow-leafleted and range from 2 to 4 metres in height.
Afghan farmers harvest this strain in October to produce the legendary 'Shirak-i-Mazar' ('Milk of Mazar') charas, arguably the finest oldschool hashish. Note that Afghans refer to resin as 'charas' or 'garda'.As with all hashish landraces, this cultigen shows chemotypes ranging from high THC to high CBD. 

Highly recommended to breeders. Essential for collectors. and great for medical  marijuana. this is just one of the true landrace strains i have  collected

 

Edited August 3, 2018 by landraceseeds
adding words i forgot to add

[landraceseeds]

On 1/20/2014 at 5:04 PM, dondjinn said:

These are being used by 2 breeders currently not sure if either has released crosses on them since I've been outta the loop for a while. One of which is G.O.D. He was given 10 to sort through from a mutual friend with the promise he wouldn't work them. Yea, 6 months later I see them due to release crossed to Aliendawg. Heard the keeper pheno was re-named and has been getting passed around out West. To date of the 20 I gave away I am aware of 5 stellar keeper phenos. All of which having Afghanica characteristics.

 

 

Pure Landrace from Peshawar Pakistan

I'll try to keep this short... So was talking a few months ago at a Dr Clinic at the club and had the opportunity to sit down with an ex marine who was stationed neat Peshawar on the Afgani/Paki border. He described watching the women of the village process cannibis plants all day long. And how the men sat in tents all day pressing and smoking it. At any rate during his time there walking around he ended up near one of the processing piles. This pile was a pile of seeds. He grabbed as many as he could. About a small handful. And managed to keep them safe until getting them back to the states. He promised me a few for preservation purposes. Never thought I'd hear back from him until Wednesday night he strolls into the club and hands me a small ziplock baggie containing 61 seeds. He said he grew one outdoors and it turned purple so he brought it indoors stressing it to the point of death. He felt like bunny muffin for doing such a crappy job and wanted to make sure they were takin care of properly. At any rate was curious if any xxxxxxxx had any exp. With hash plants from this region.

Thanks

__________________

Friends are like seeds. Run Through Hundreds, To Find A FEW Keepers...

UG

hi great topic i have replied to your topic  somewhere in this forum 

[landraceseeds]

On 1/22/2014 at 5:22 PM, dondjinn said:

Well if its landrace your interested in, head over to the classifieds section. I've got some Nigerians listed there to. The Lemon Thai Sativa listed there is the same Dutch Flowers variety that quite a few breeders based much work off of.

Peace

ive  got a few  landrace strains 

Parvati
Malana Cream
Nanda Devi
Kumaoni
Mazar-i-Sharif
Chitrali
Turkish
Lebanese
Sinai
Syrian
Highland Thai
Kerala
ukhrul
manipuri
hemalayan landrace
parvarti jungli

this is my collection and genetic breeding stock

[Easy E]

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Please note that if a source is selling a small, short strain as 'Mazar-i-Sharif' this is a sure sign that the source is unreliable.

There is also a short strain called Watani from the same region. However, if you have MIS seeds that are producing short plants it is likely a worked line and there for a poor representation of the current MIS Afghan cultivar. None the less, short plants do not necessarily mean they are not pure afghan genetics, just worked pure afghan genetics. So if you desire MIS for ganja (flower/bud) as opposed to charas/hashish, a worked line may be your best bet. Just thought I'd add that : )

I have: Mazar-I-Sharif from Real Seed Co (open pollinated pure genetics), Chitrali from Real Seed Co (open pollinated pure genetics), Columbian Gold from World of Seeds (worked but pure), Afghan Kush from World of Seeds (worked but pure), Brazil Amazonia form World of Seeds (worked but apparently pure)

[landraceseeds]

15 hours ago, Easy E said:

There is also a short strain called Watani from the same region. However, if you have MIS seeds that are producing short plants it is likely a worked line and there for a poor representation of the current MIS Afghan cultivar. None the less, short plants do not necessarily mean they are not pure afghan genetics, just worked pure afghan genetics. So if you desire MIS for ganja (flower/bud) as opposed to charas/hashish, a worked line may be your best bet. Just thought I'd add that : )

I have: Mazar-I-Sharif from Real Seed Co (open pollinated pure genetics), Chitrali from Real Seed Co (open pollinated pure genetics), Columbian Gold from World of Seeds (worked but pure), Afghan Kush from World of Seeds (worked but pure), Brazil Amazonia form World of Seeds (worked but apparently pure)

what columbian gold did you get if you got the columbian gold 1972 its about the best you can get these days.  as for the columbian gold  from world of  seeds it dont look right to me. and as for  Brazil Amazonia its a 90% stativa  so not pure landrace. and  it would need to be 100% stativa to be pure landrace   here is a link.     https://www.leafly.com/sativa/brazil-amazonia

[landraceseeds]

5 minutes ago, landraceseeds said:

what columbian gold did you get if you got the columbian gold 1972 its about the best you can get these days.  as for the columbian gold  from world of  seeds it dont look right to me. and as for  Brazil Amazonia its a 90% stativa  so not pure landrace. and  it would need to be 100% stativa to be pure landrace   here is a link.     https://www.leafly.com/sativa/brazil-amazonia

here is a photo of columbian gold 1972

[Easy E]

Yeah there is a big difference between pure "landrace" genetics and the cultivars and hybrids of cannabis we are discussing.

Remember, it is believed that all cannabis started as one landrace, probably somewhere around Yunnan China or the foothills of the Himalayas. It is because of trade (dispersion), cultivation (selection of traits), isolation (divergence of genetics), and later hybridizations again through the same mechanisms that we have modern regional/ethnic cultivars.

landrace: wild(natural) or feral(escaped cultivar) cannabis, no human intervention. Not available from any seed companies I am aware of.

cultivars: containing landrace genetics, sometimes pure, sometimes a hybrid of numerous landrace genetics, noting hybridization could have occurred over centuries as depicted by Vavilovs observations in Afghanistan during the 30's compared to the cultivars grown by afghan farmers today, but having been selectively breed over many generations, in specific regions, by specific people, for specific reasons. Basically each family of farmers will have slightly different representations of the same pure landrace genetics. Yes, at some point there can be a significant divergence between cultivars that started form the same seed stock.

modern "worked" lines: various seed companies have lines of cultivars they have worked, for specific traits, that are very different representations form the original pure cultivar seed stock they started with.

So just because a cultivar has been selectively breed for specific traits does not mean it is not of "pure" genetics. I hope I helped to clear up the confusion.

[landraceseeds]

1 hour ago, Easy E said:

Yeah there is a big difference between pure "landrace" genetics and the cultivars and hybrids of cannabis we are discussing.

Remember, it is believed that all cannabis started as one landrace, probably somewhere around Yunnan China or the foothills of the Himalayas. It is because of trade (dispersion), cultivation (selection of traits), isolation (divergence of genetics), and later hybridizations again through the same mechanisms that we have modern regional/ethnic cultivars.

landrace: wild(natural) or feral(escaped cultivar) cannabis, no human intervention. Not available from any seed companies I am aware of.

cultivars: containing landrace genetics, sometimes pure, sometimes a hybrid of numerous landrace genetics, noting hybridization could have occurred over centuries as depicted by Vavilovs observations in Afghanistan during the 30's compared to the cultivars grown by afghan farmers today, but having been selectively breed over many generations, in specific regions, by specific people, for specific reasons. Basically each family of farmers will have slightly different representations of the same pure landrace genetics. Yes, at some point there can be a significant divergence between cultivars that started form the same seed stock.

modern "worked" lines: various seed companies have lines of cultivars they have worked, for specific traits, that are very different representations form the original pure cultivar seed stock they started with.

So just because a cultivar has been selectively breed for specific traits does not mean it is not of "pure" genetics. I hope I helped to clear up the confusion.

where you from  buddy im uk based iam in the midle of buying 2 nice strains  original punto rojo and  columbian black both pure landrace quite expensive around £70 uk pounds for 10 punto rojo regular seeds and £70 for the columbian black landrace

[Restorium2]

We are from Michigan, USA, where our patients would console us on our failed crop if we offered up these Columbian strains. I'm old enough to remember when it's all we had. And anytime something else (hybrids) came along everyone would pay triple for it. It's the only reason any of us here grew cannabis, to escape the Columbian monopoly. 

[landraceseeds]

are these 2  pure  columbian  Landrace strains  available in Michigan. 

is  it easy for you guys to get seeds from the uk .   what are  the names  of the strains that  you guys  like most in michigan 

and are  they  landrace  strains or hybrids

Edited August 4, 2018 by landraceseeds

[landraceseeds]

this modern world seems to be going hybrid.  landrace strains will disappear  in the future  how will this effect medical  marijuana users if landraces vanish and you only have modern hybrids

 

[Easy E]

@landraceseeds

Like resto said, Michigan, USA. This forum is for MMMP discussion but anyone who loves the plant is welcome. I feel like we have a communication barrier. Seeds are not hard to get a hold of. Modern hybrids are a necessary beast in my opinion, all the meds I grow are modern hybrids. However preserving the cultivars of the world and their respective history is something I feel is important and take part in.

@Restorium

I had a good chuckle when I read your reply, so true! My interest is in the medicinal value of tradition hashish/charas cultivars for pain relief. Traditional ganja cultivars are not something I am at all interested in.

 

[landraceseeds]

i dont know that much about medical marijuana .thats why i came on this website to learn a bit. the uk wont make  legal medical  marijuana. this goverment has no brains in the uk. the ammount of tax they could get from it would be massive . and it would help people in pain and many other medical disorders. ive never been to the usa. its allways been on my to do list. but never had the money to do it up to now.you got that big porn brokers in michigan. american jewelry  & loans we get that on the tv at night in the uk  what are the best hybrids in  michigan