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decrim doesnt work. it encourages a black market.

legalization makes marijuana still 'illegal' and 'bad'. its 'permitted' to have 1oz. permitted? flower you. thats not regulated like alcohol. mason tyvert and the MPP lied.

 

depenalize is best. like tomatoes. you dont like tomatoes you aint gotta eat them. pick them off your salad and hamburgas.

decrim helps get rid of a few posession charges.

its also symbolic and shows the idiot leaders what the people really want.

it also shows donors that michigan is ready to fully legalize or depenalize.

its hard to show that a state is ready to change its laws.

look at how close oregon came. 47% ? cmon.

washington and colorado changed everything. but they still have problems. especially with 5ng limit crap.

this post, i dont get it.

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this post, i dont get it.

 

which part ? 

decriminalization usually focuses on decrim of an ounce on private property. this is what the 'decrim' template that safer michigan is using. it does not protect growers.

 

lowest law priority? police dont care about that. some police actively and openly ignore these ballot inititives here in michigan.

 

"legalization" in colorado means you can grow 3 mature plants and 3 immature plants and posess 1 ounce. what happens when you are over one ounce? in washington you cant home grow at all.

 

mason tyvert from the marijuana policy project made a ballot initiative in colorado, A64, and his campaign for it was all about "marijuana is safer than alcohol" and "regulate marijuana like alcohol". except with alcohol there is no posession limit. you can buy as much as you want at the store.

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Decriminalization is when your neighbor calls 911 about some plants at your house, or yard, and the cops never even come over. They have better things to do because the prosecutor and judges said so. This will kill the 'black market' because everyone who wants to smoke will either have their own home grown or have a close friend that grows. The folks that have no friends will still have to go to places like G3C to get their bags until they make a grower friend... or not. Pretty soon you will quit hearing about it on the news and radio. Cannabis will fade into the American backdrop as just a way some folks relax. So relax and let it happen. Just like that. If you make a new income stream, legalization, you will make a new way for bullies to lord over us. There's no 'relax' with legalization. We need to be able to relax and enjoy cannabis without all the hype.

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Decriminalization is when your neighbor calls 911 about some plants at your house, or yard, and the cops never even come over. They have better things to do because the prosecutor and judges said so. This will kill the 'black market' because everyone who wants to smoke will either have their own home grown or have a close friend that grows. The folks that have no friends will still have to go to places like G3C to get their bags until they make a grower friend... or not. Pretty soon you will quit hearing about it on the news and radio. Cannabis will fade into the American backdrop as just a way some folks relax. So relax and let it happen. Just like that. If you make a new income stream, legalization, you will make a new way for bullies to lord over us. There's no 'relax' with legalization. We need to be able to relax and enjoy cannabis without all the hype.

Tying marijuana to the profit motive is a bad idea. We don't want private enterprise pushing pot as opposed to the Cali Cartel pushing pot. Why can't the government grow and dispense cannabis? No advertising, no encouraging use, no pushing. If you want it,get it from them. All the profit could go to retiring the national debt. Growing cannabis is easy enough that even the government couldn't screw it up.

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Amish4ganja

 

It's not that easy, and the gov does have a grow in mass. They grow shwag. The candian company that's passed the pharma bill for, grows shwag.

 

Growing quality top shelf headies, is an art form. It takes skill passion and dedication. Yea any one can grow some dirt weed. But not every one can grow the headstash.

 

I have seen plants that are considerd some of the best in the world, grown buy certain farmers and they come out shwag. So you may say any one can grow it, and yea they can. But not every one can grow it great.

 

IMO the more pot you grow, the more you loose on quality. The only way to run a large scale grow, is that evey person operating the grow is on the same leval. Not just a employee going to work.

 

Plants are liveing beings, and if you abuse them, they not going to do very well.

 

If the government steped in or big corperations all we would see is a outbreak of ecoli infected cannabis. Like how that is possible is beyond me but I'm sure they will some how manage it.

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"legalization" in colorado means you can grow 3 mature plants and 3 immature plants and posess 1 ounce.

 

It's regulation that says that, not legalization. I would like it legal but not regulated.

 

 depenalize. Clear and to the point.

 

Be careful not to misspell.

 

Yeah, we don't want to give Jones any ideas!

Edited by Wild Bill

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Tomorrow morning (March 18), I will be presenting a "Benzie County Cannabis Ordinance Draft" at the Board of Commissioners Meeting,Government Center on U.S.31,at 9am. I will ask the commissioners to look it over for the next 2 weeks, deciding if they would like to pass it or put it before the Benzie County voters in November, and give me their decision at their April 1st meeting. This draft is modeled after the Ann Arbor and Grand Rapids ordinances. My heartfelt gratitude & thanks goes to Safer Michigan Coalition for providing me with this draft, and thank you God for allowing me to present it. Let the Michigan cannabis tsunami begin!

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http://www.freep.com/article/20140317/NEWS/303170168/Pot-activists-prepare-new-campaigns-Michigan

 
 
 
 
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

OAK PARK, Mich. -- Supporters of last year's successful pro-marijuana Michigan ballot issues plan to launch campaigns in as many as a dozen other communities this year.

Organizers plan to begin gathering signatures next month for proposals in places including Hazel Park, Oak Park, Utica, East Lansing, Mount Pleasant and Port Huron, the Detroit Free Press reported (http://on.freep.com/1fEIrKm ). The push also is to include backing some candidates for local and state office.

"This is going to be big," said Tim Beck, 62, a pro-marijuana supporter from Detroit who co-founded the Safer Michigan Coalition. Beck, a retired health insurance executive, has worked for more than a decade on legalization campaigns throughout the state.

Last year, voters in Ferndale, Jackson and Lansing approved proposals that call on local police not to arrest people for marijuana possession if they are found with an ounce or less of the drug, are at least 21 years old and are on private property.

Marijuana users in those communities still face risks because state law bars marijuana use and possession unless it's medical marijuana. In the Detroit suburb of Ferndale, for example, police have vowed to continue making marijuana arrests in compliance with state law.

"When you put the badge on your shirt, you say you're going to enforce all the laws — not just the ones you think you should," Ferndale police Chief Tim Collins said.

Michigan voters approved marijuana use for some chronic medical conditions in 2008, but the new measures go beyond that. Law enforcement officials and youth drug prevention groups for years have fought efforts to ease marijuana restrictions.

Even largely unknown candidates who strongly support marijuana legalization could get nominated in primaries where several candidates split the vote and a marijuana proposal draws an unexpectedly strong turnout, according to one political observer.

"If they have devoted supporters whom they know they can turn out to support them, I think this type of candidate has a chance," said David Dulio, chairman of the political science department at Oakland University.

Edited by Marijuana Ranch

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http://www.saferlansing.com/

if you want to contribute to the cause.

heres the old detroit site

http://vlcdesigner.com/TimBeck/contactus.htm

i'm not sure if the info is still good. give it a call.

 

this made national headlines i think. good for beck.

http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/03/18/4001953/more-local-pro-marijuana-ballot.html

http://www.kansas.com/2014/03/18/3352427/more-local-pro-marijuana-ballot.html

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Newshawk: Get Active http://www.mapinc.org/how2.htm

Pubdate: Wed, 19 Mar 2014

Source: Morning Sun (Mt. Pleasant, MI)

Copyright: 2014 Morning Sun

Contact: news@michigannewspapers.com

Website: http://www.themorningsun.com/

Details: http://www.mapinc.org/media/3938

Author: Michael P. McConnell

Bookmark: http://www.mapinc.org/find?275 (Cannabis - Michigan)

 

OAK PARK, HAZEL PARK AMONG CITIES STATEWIDE TARGETED FOR POT DECRIMINALIZATION

 

Marijuana proponents are gearing up to get pot decriminalization

proposals on ballots in about a dozen cities statewide this year,

including Hazel Park and Oak Park in Oakland County.

 

The effort comes after the Safer Michigan Coalition successfully

passed similar proposals last year in Ferndale, Jackson and Lansing.

 

"Our goal is to create confusion and chaos between state and local

laws so our legislators in Lansing with step up to the plate and do

the will of the people," said Tim Beck, co-founder of Safer Michigan.

"Ultimately there needs to be marijuana legalization like they have

in Colorado, where it is legal and regulated."

 

An EPIC-MRA poll last year showed 65 percent of state residents

approve of marijuana decriminalization, according to Beck.

 

Beck, a Detroit resident and retired executive, said his group plans

to announce April 2 all the cities it will target.

 

Others on the list include Utica, Port Huron, Mount Pleasant and East Lansing.

 

Safer Michigan organizers are lining up volunteers in each targeted

city to collect enough petition signatures to get the pot proposals

on local ballots, Beck added.

 

The efforts in Hazel Park and Oak Park will be to get the issues on

the ballot for the August primary election.

 

Beck said some state-office candidates are running in support of

decriminalizing or legalizing pot, including Andrew Cissell, who got

the issue on the ballot in Ferndale last year but was found guilty

last month of listing a false address on his petitions, a misdemeanor.

 

Cissell, 26, also faces trial next month in Oakland County Circuit

Court on several felony counts of illegal delivery and manufacture of

marijuana. He is running in the August Democratic primary as a state

representative candidate for the 27th District, which includes Royal

Oak Township, Huntington Woods, Berkley, Ferndale, Oak Park and Pleasant Ridge.

 

Cissell could not be reached for comment Tuesday.

 

The decriminalization effort is different from the state medical

marijuana law passed in 2008, which allows registered patients and

caregivers to possess larger amounts of pot for patients use.

Marijuana decriminalization measures typically reduce possession of

an ounce or less of pot by adults to a civil infraction or make it legal.

 

However, state and federal laws still prohibit the non-medical use

and possession of any amount of marijuana. And that's where the

confusion and chaos Beck hopes to create for law enforcement comes into play.

 

In Hazel Park, Police Chief Martin Barner said local pro-pot ballot

initiatives cannot supersede state and federal law.

 

But he agrees with Beck about the outcome of such initiatives.

 

"I think this is all just a way to cloud the issue even more," Barner

said. "My personal opinion is either make it all legal or all illegal."

 

Barner said even medical marijuana has resulted in armed robberies of

caregivers at their homes in Hazel Park because they are allowed to

grow up to 12 plants each for as many as five patients.

 

About 17 states in the U.S., including New York, Kentucky,

Mississippi, Ohio and California, have decriminalized small amounts

of marijuana.

 

Voters will have the ultimate say on how or whether marijuana laws

change at the local, state and national levels, said Hazel Park City

Manager Ed Klobucher.

 

"Based on the results of the decriminalization ballot proposals in

other cities it appears attitudes about marijuana legalization are

changing," he said. "If they succeed in bringing a proposal to the

ballot in Hazel Park it will be up to voters on what kind of message

they want to send to Lansing."

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