Primary/attending Physicians Available For Pain Management? (Se Mi)

[Demo_Beta]

Hello,

 

My grandfather is entering the terminal stage of cancer and acute kidney failure and will soon be entering the hospice system. They are currently doping him up on hydrocodone and Fentanyl and as expected, he is quickly turning into a doped up hallucinating shell of who he really is and is capable of being until the end.

 

He is open to trying medical marijuana, but the problem is that he requires an assigned physician in hospice and none of those in the corporate system will touch him or provide mild opiate medication in conjunction with marijuana (as multiple recent studies suggest is the best for such a scenario). I was able to find a not-for-profit hospice system that will provide services even if he is using marijuana for pain (the two local corporate hospitals said they would cut off service if they find out), but again, I need an attending physician.

 

Are there any primary care/pain management doctors in the SE MI area who take on such patients or provide such services? The local advertised marijuana doctors do not appear that they provide any care other than serving as paper mills for MM Cards, so I'm not sure they are the best ones to start with.

 

My grandfather has full medical coverage (two BCBS plans and Medicare) as well as the ability to pay a modest amount out of pocket for services if that is required.

 

Any info or contacts would be appreciated.

 

Cheers.

[GregS]

Wow. Just wow!

 

You will need to obtain, by any means necessary, a statement from a physician that cannabis can help the old boy out. If you are near enough to Saginaw, I cannot recommend Dr. Paul Meyer more highly.

 

2110 N Morson St, Saginaw, MI 48602

(989) 249-9965

[pic book]

The local advertised marijuana doctors do not appear that they provide any care other than serving as paper mills for MM Cards, so I'm not sure they are the best ones to start with.

 

 

Any info or contacts would be appreciated.

demobeta:  welcome--it is your first post--and you have a difficult search on your hands yet, you dis the very people with the connections to help you.  call the very ones you blanket-dissed as 'serving as paper mills for marijuana cards.'  your attitude is so off-putting.  lose it.  then call around to advertised marijuana doctors and see if you have luck to locate your doc.  Took me a month of searching and maybe 90 calls to locate a marinol doc, so good l-u-c-k.

[Demo_Beta]

demobeta:  welcome--it is your first post--and you have a difficult search on your hands yet, you dis the very people with the connections to help you.  call the very ones you blanket-dissed as 'serving as paper mills for marijuana cards.'  your attitude is so off-putting.  lose it.  then call around to advertised marijuana doctors and see if you have luck to locate your doc.  Took me a month of searching and maybe 90 calls to locate a marinol doc, so good l-u-c-k.

I called the three highest rated doctors with "connections," as you refer to it, in the surrounding area and none of them have any hospital affiliations, nursing staff, facilities/equipment, or networks with insurance companies. In other words, all they do is process MM cards.

 

That's fine and I'm 100% behind the use, research, and expansion of marijuana for medical and even recreational purposes. Further, good for them for providing the service. However, if you are an MD and all you do is process MM cards, what would be a more accurate description than a "paper-mill"?

 

The really sick people are in hospitals and those you care for and diagnose during a general or specialized practice, not at a walk-in clinic.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Demo_Beta

[t-pain]

hospitals blackmail doctors, if they recommend marijuana they can be fired.

even if all that info is super confidential.

 

but patients talk. they are proud to have a good doctor. would a good doctor want to ruin a relationship with a hospital over one medication?

 

sorry i havent heard many hospice drs. i know there was a registered nurse who works at a hospice who has testified for mmj in mich. but i dont remember her name.

 

 

[cheapshades]

...............i know there was a registered nurse who works at a hospice who has testified for mmj in mich. but i dont remember her name.

 

 Cathleen Graham

 

http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org/uploads/Cannanurse.com%20Testimony%20and%20Amendments%20-%20Testing%20and%20Labeling.pdf

 

 

Demo_Beta, her email address is listed at the bottom of page 4 of 4 in the PDF file.

 

good luck & best to your Grandfather

Edited May 9, 2014 by cheapshades

[phaquetoo]

demobeta:  welcome--it is your first post--and you have a difficult search on your hands yet, you dis the very people with the connections to help you.  call the very ones you blanket-dissed as 'serving as paper mills for marijuana cards.'  your attitude is so off-putting.  lose it.  then call around to advertised marijuana doctors and see if you have luck to locate your doc.  Took me a month of searching and maybe 90 calls to locate a marinol doc, so good l-u-c-k.

I think there is a better way to handle some one trying to save his gramps!  I know we are all a lil bit shy of newbies looking for something in their first post here, but I sure would like to see a Dr. answer this question in here!

 

I havent read past this post pic, so sorry nothing personal, and if a doc already responded in here thank you!

 

Welcome to the boards newbie and I hope you find what you need to help your loved one!

 

me personaly I wouldnt even wait for a dr. and I wouldnt tell hospice, or I would get with the hospice that dont care about mm, and just get him on the capsule/oil like now, to see if it works, what have you to lose at this point!

 

Im very sorry for you situation and I wish you the best, Please dont take offense to any bad posts in here, Unless you are law enforcement than go phaq your self,,,,,,,I dont believe you are!

 

I wish you the best!

 

Peace

[phaquetoo]

I called the three highest rated doctors with "connections," as you refer to it, in the surrounding area and none of them have any hospital affiliations, nursing staff, facilities/equipment, or networks with insurance companies. In other words, all they do is process MM cards.

 

That's fine and I'm 100% behind the use, research, and expansion of marijuana for medical and even recreational purposes. Further, good for them for providing the service. However, if you are an MD and all you do is process MM cards, what would be a more accurate description than a "paper-mill"?

 

The really sick people are in hospitals and those you care for and diagnose during a general or specialized practice, not at a walk-in clinic.

I have asked my cert dr. to be my primary dr. and I got the same thing, they dont do that, they only do mm recs that is where the easy cash is now,,,,,,I so feel for you, Ive been in this site from almost the beginning and have yet to find any of the mm dr.s to just be my all around dr. none, I repeat NONE of the dr.s doing certs who come here or not dont do pt care, only offer 1 visit in between certs to cover their arses!

 

Once again I wish you the best, dont give up hope and dont give up on this site, keep checking in, I know if hospice is there you dont have much time, that is a phaqing crying shame that you come here for help and find more neg in here than in the real world!

 

what county are you in?

 

Peace