The Year Of The Grasshopper

[pic book]

Last year outdoor growers largely lost the battle for a great crop to wpm and botrytis fucklia.  This year is shaping up as the year of the hole, eaten through leaves by fast jumpers.  Orthene (sold as Orthenex brand) is effective at making cannabis grasshopper resistant when sprayed on topside and underside, but the MSDS label leaves me quaking at any application of this systemic.  Just getting it on your clothes can cause nerve damage and eye damage.  So what is the ticket to stop the horde of migrants?  (Nicotine spray hasn't proven effective).  Application of common baking flour would work, but requires rain to wash it off after 2 days or it damages plants.  i have Wipeout on hand, but the label mentions only spider mites. 

Edited July 1, 2014 by pic book

[AbominableDro-Man]

Neem Oil has been working for my outdoor ladies for the jumpy menace thus far. I'd stay away from a product called Organocide though if you ever run across it, that one certainly didn't work for me, and it even managed to burn a few of the leaves even when mixed well under the rec'd amount/gal ratio.

[pic book]

do you have to to spray it on the ghopper directly, or is just on the leaves good enuf to keep hoppers away?

Edited July 1, 2014 by pic book

[t-pain]

chickens and or turkeys will eat grasshoppers.

 

can buy them live on craigslist.

 

assuming you live in an area that is ok with birds like that.

[trichcycler]

....wondered why I never seen a grasshopper near my stash^^^nevr even thought about that pest, as a pest. Ha !!  

 

chemical romance is for the birds,  errr, or something like that.

[ilynnboy]

What about a spray of red chili and garlic oil?

That would keep them off for sure.

But like all insecticidal oils it would need re-application after a rain.

As always use in the dark or at dusk/dawn to help with photosensitivity issues.

[t-pain]

put agricultural cloth over your entire garden.

 

lets sun, wind, air , water in . keeps bugs out.

[pic book]

t-pain:  what proportions red chili to garlic oil?  and spray only over foliage, not under?  any idea, would canola oil work as well as garlic?

[trichcycler]

canola oil may kill but wont prevent like garlic. make some, try it, label the "strength" of each small test area, dilute each with measured water, record until minimal damage has occurred to foliage. Try it out, report results here for appreciation.

 

Neem oil is a wise choice outdoors, is safely applied to the majority of our growth cycles, cheap, effective, and liked by cannabis foliage, not so bad for some beneficials. My worms despise Neem oil so I must avoid it in/on the soil. But have no doubts, if an outbreak of some sort was evident, and I had no c02, I wouldn't hesitate using neem on or in and around my plants or garden. I use it currently on my trays and pots when maintaining. I used it in hydro in my res and on my rocks. I mixed it with Tween and it rocked ! It's safe because I said so.

[pic book]

What about a spray of red chili and garlic oil?

That would keep them off for sure.

But like all insecticidal oils it would need re-application after a rain.

As always use in the dark or at dusk/dawn to help with photosensitivity issues.

well the nicotine spray totally fails so next up is a spray of red chili and garlic oil.

[pic book]

the color of the cannabis plant affects how much damage the ghs do to it.  indicas, dark greeen, get eaten the most and are ragged with holes...the sativas,  naturally lighter green, hardly get nibbled. at all.

[pic book]

what is needed is a systemic for grasshoppers--it is ridiculous to have to treat again rain after rain, as the last 7 day we've had 19 showers (# pulled out of my armpit).

[t-pain]

t-pain:  what proportions red chili to garlic oil?  and spray only over foliage, not under?  any idea, would canola oil work as well as garlic?

 

i wouldnt waste time on sprays.

i'd go full monty. surround each plant in a net. bugs cant get in, no sprays, no nonsense.

 

something like this:

http://www.greenhousemegastore.com/category/insect-screen

 

http://www.globalindustrial.com/p/outdoor-grounds-maintenance/tarps-canopies/pop-up-canopies/10x20-canopy-black-screen-kit-for-1-3-8-inch-and-2-inch-frame

Edited July 8, 2014 by t-pain

[trichcycler]

and no systemics remaining in a patients provision, geesh. poor grasshoppers just eating weak plants is all. tighten them up, buckle them down, and keep your chin up.

 

tell me you'd rather poison your plants and grasshoppers than to put a 10 dollar bird net over them?  c'mon