Obama 'spincter' Tickle Causes Unaffordable Care.

[Restorium2]

I laid it all on the table just for you phaquer. I give you 'down to the soul realness'. I open my life experiences in hope of finding some common ground. I'll not be able to forget that you took it as some kind of political propaganda and continue to cut me down while I have removed all of my armor and accepted your truce. I will revert to the concept of 'it's only the interent' and try to find something real somewhere other than here. Thanks for the lesson. I've been taught this before and need to learn it again and again.

[jointedone]

Edited July 28, 2014 by jointedone

[cheapshades]

 I ain't no fortunate one. But I still paid dues .............

 

[phaquetoo]

This subject realy isnt mm related, it is more obama care related, that is what all of the agruments are over in here, I belieive it may have done a percentage of people good and a percentage of people bad, my lady being one of the ones it didnt work for, she had ins it was good, she now makes less money and cant get herself covered any longer, she needs ins, I guess Im gonna have to step up and see about changing ins companys from what she picked to something that actualy cost more so it covers more, it realy isnt worth having with what it dont cover and the cost of things it dont cover are more than what a better ins plan will cost!

 

Im happy for the people it helped, all of them even you resto!

 

When it comes down to it alot of us have seen alot of dif changes, some we were not expecting and others I expected, It doesnt mean I have to Like it!

 

I truly am getting tired of the dems dishing it out to any one who dont beleive in the same thing politacly as them, that is why there are 2 main partys, I by no means vote all one side or the other! I do my best to vote for the person, and we all know there campain promises are all b.s,,so I would like to see people not call others names because of their politcal partys, (yes I know im a name caller at times, but it usualy isnt a personal thing about politics) as you see we in this site have our own politcal belief's and it would be nice to not be attacked about it, whether I put up a stupid bumper sticker slogan about the pres or some one puts up the same type of thing from the dem side.

 

One thing most of us agree on is mmj and when it comes time to pull together we need to be bipartisn and show them idiots we pay,  how to work with the other side when it is something we all beleive in.

 

Im not going to feel guilty that I didnt vote the current but head in and no one else should try and make me feel that way, ok you won, your man is in office, now I hope some one good comes around that deserves my vote when this one retires with better bennys than all of us!

 

Peace

[Restorium2]

Couple things that add sunshine to my day; medical marijuana, and the thought of having decent health care when I need it. Thanks to who ever graced me with these things, and Godspeed to those who would fight for me to keep them.

[outsideinthecold]

On behalf of those who pay for the decent health care you were unable to provide for yourself, you are welcome.

 

However, would you mind asking Obama to reconsider importing more and more undocumented migrants from Central America?

 

The weight on the country's non-public sector working class is already burdensome to the point that more and more folks are going to stop working and let someone else pay for them too.

 

Oh wait, that's already happening, isn't it?

Edited July 25, 2014 by outsideinthecold

[+Malamute]

I hear ya phaq,  I wish I was closer because I bet there is a much better answer to your problem in the current system, you just have to figure out which hoop to jump through.  The typical issue.  They surely never make it easy.

 

And jointedone,... you have the exact same right to state your opinions as I have the freedom of speech to respond to them.  Sometimes people forget others have freedom of speech too.

 

 And,.. of all people, for you to say you shouldn't point fingers,.... wow!  Holy wow batman. Just read over the last 500 of your posts and try to tell me with a straight face that most of them are not extreme finger pointing. ;-)  Maybe ya might realize then why there are fingers pointing back at ya.... :-)

 

And smoking pot, or having long hair or simply growing up in a ten year period, does not make you a hippie.  Your disgust for anything communal or the concept of giving a brother/sister a helping hand or any sense of 'if your cup be empty' ; seems to put you on the other side of general "hippiedom".  Just sayin'

 

Anyhow,... victimhood doesn't suit you well. I would try on a different sheeps clothes.

[jointedone]

 I keep telling you to take it to the PMs. But then you wouldn't get that tingly feeling up your leg knowing all your "buds" are reading you put me down,would you? Just block me! You are too hateful to see the analogy of the pointing finger(s)...and that YOU are so important it MUST HAVE directed towards YOU. Wrong . You should know everything about being a victim,you sure do know how to work the system,don't you? How proud you must be. People like you love to pick a victim. You picked the wrong one,big guy. You don't scare me like you do most of the other men here. That is why you pick women. A man would punch your face in. I just laugh at you. You don't even have the balls to NOT fight in public because you want all the other peckerwoods like you to think you are "cool". What a manly man you are............NOT. Just like a gang,you need somebody there to back you up. Now go order your Viagra,Mr Peckerwood. I'm sure you need it. Are you the catcher or the pitcher?

Edited July 28, 2014 by jointedone

[cheapshades]

[+Malamute]

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

 

There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. This strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

[Restorium2]

On behalf of those who pay for the decent health care you were unable to provide for yourself, you are welcome.

 

However, would you mind asking Obama to reconsider importing more and more undocumented migrants from Central America?

 

The weight on the country's non-public sector working class is already burdensome to the point that more and more folks are going to stop working and let someone else pay for them too.

 

Oh wait, that's already happening, isn't it?

I pay for my insurance. I can because of ObamaCare. You actually believe you were paying my way? That's the ignorance of assumption. I was thanking anyone who helped ObamaCare pass, not some misguided thinker that thinks he's paying everyone elses way in this world. No one gets to walk between the rain, I'm hoping you get help when you get wet.

 

Since over half of America now understands that ObamaCare is a good thing, I see you went back to the bottomless well of twisted things to blame Obama for. You are not alone.

 

78% of America believes that our government had some choices as to what 'to do with' the immigrant children coming from Central America. They could have shot them I suppose. In a few weeks you will see that most Americans are on board with what we needed to do in the Central American immigrant children situation. It's painful to watch the learning process. If you hurry back to the well you can be ready with the next twisted idea.

[beourbud]

All those fknrepublicans and Tbags can see is a black man in the White House. They cant get past it. We are in the most conservative/ republicanbackwoods region in the state. The county motto is if you ain't white you ain't right.

Without the black inmates the county would be 100% white/redneck.

 

You know, the President could deliver us out of the worst economy ever, end a couple illegal wars, hunt down Osama , make health care affordable and accessable to everyone and the fknrepublicans can only see Black.

Thank God our children are more tolerant. There is Hope.

 

The repubs sold us the Jetsons and delivered us Duck Dynasty

 

Vote EVERY republican out of office.

 

Vote , Your future depends on it!

Edited July 27, 2014 by beourbud

[free420country]

You dont believe we got screwed by obama care, my lady has to pay for ins that doesnt cover sheat! now your getting personal, we cant afford to pay for ins that dont pay for nothing,

 

I believe you should watch who you call a liar! do you think I would say we got screwed by that a s s hat if I didnt! if so you are an a s s hat also, are you going on the road to make sure the dems stay in there no matter how they screw things up? when reagen got elected and put in office it was my best money making yrs of my adult life, than bush sr, just kept the same plan going and than your boy willy was smart enough to keep the ball rolling that reagen started, after that and his disgraceful use of the oval office and his indescressions people were ready for a repub again, w, did not start the war, our twin towers were hit by alqueda, he went after the country that harbored him, our guys got rid of the taliban and got a new gov in, we did what we tried, we can lead them cannibals to water but we cant make them drink, as far as Iraq so darn huessian was a horrible dictator who nobody liked including saudi arabia and most def kuwait, and the woman and people of iraq were ready to not be raped and killed by his sons! the only thing I regret is we didnt take iran out when we were over there!

 

You are one sided like you say we all are, the only diff is your on the wrong side, you think you know everything, all you know is what you want to know, I beleive I have like 20 some yrs on you and I cant remember a time we were not in a war of some type since I was born, and nixon just got caught doing what the others were doing and had the guts to step down, clinton got hearings and lost and should have stepped down for disgracing the office of the strongest person in the world, he was not just a ceo of some big company he was our whore dog pres and I bet you think he was the best we ever had, so it dont surprise me that you would like obama, I cant beleive the people in this country would vote for some one name barrack huesien obama, he is a young punk who didnt do anything special to be elected pres the only thing he did was use the internet better than the older fellas,, The worst thing that ever happened to america and our alli's is obama! If mcain wouldnt have chosen palin he would have been one of our best presidents, he is always working on both sides and trying to bring the party's together, which will never happen like the muslims who all beleive if you dont beleive what they beleive we dont deserve to live!

 

you didnt answer me if you work or not, are you disabled? can you work out side of the home?

 

Peace

 

P.s if you dont beleive my family got screwed by obama care, how about we find ins that we most def cant afford that will cover our needs and you pay for it, you seem to know what our income is and say we didnt get screwed!

Well said bro

[Restorium2]

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

 

There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there always has been. This strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."

More like a taspestry. How many times can a person stand to say, "You better check your facts"? How long can you stay polite? It's a definite challenge.

[Restorium2]

 

P.s if you dont beleive my family got screwed by obama care, how about we find ins that we most def cant afford that will cover our needs and you pay for it, you seem to know what our income is and say we didnt get screwed!

 

I said you didn't get screwed because you described what happened and that showed that you didn't get screwed by ObamaCare. You couldn't even find a single way that ObamaCare did anything to you at all. I find this quite often.

[phaquetoo]

beourbud Im going to vote the complete oposite of you because I dont beleive what you beleive, does that make me bad?

 

Peace

[+Malamute]

Naw, just stupid!,,...

 

lol.

 

J/k man.

[Restorium2]

Vote however you want to. Just quit making stuff up to justify how you are voting. That's what is batshit stupid. I'm not surprised people get the wrong idea because health care is complicated. When you complain and folks take the time to show you how and why you were wrong, helping you, and then the next day you are right back at it, that's stupid. That's the kind of stupid that gets you taken advantage of. Hard headed hater stupidity that is the lifeblood of the Republican Party.

[phaquetoo]

who was talking to you

 

You realy think you know me dont you?  you dont know bunny muffin all you know how to do is be a spewer of hate, your the most negative person on this site, your nose is in everyones biz, I wasnt writing to you, no one knows my financials and you dont know bunny muffin about me so quit telling me about me, talk about your own hard headed always right attitude, Im sure im not the only one in here who is sick of you sticking your nose where it dont belong,,,,,,,I know a good place for you to stick your nose!

 

Have a great day busy body!

 

Peace

[jointedone]

:notfair:Poor resto. He is so poor but he has a computer and can pay for it every month. Bet you have a smart phone too. Smart phone for a dumb cluck. Oh and you have enough money to grow mj for yourself ,right? Or do you have a pt so you can mooch that too? You really are a dope,I bet you were a tattletale when you were a kid. This is the best example of the mindset of the libturd. GIMMEE GIMMEE GIMMEE. Grow a spine,boy. :lolu:Now go whine to the mods,they let you say whatever you want to,but not anybody else.Tell them a woman is picking on you so we can all laugh at you

[trichcycler]

The only two years in my life I've seen an apple tree in July with no apples on it are this year, and the year before last.

[Norby]

I pay for my insurance. I can because of ObamaCare. You actually believe you were paying my way? That's the ignorance of assumption. I was thanking anyone who helped ObamaCare pass, not some misguided thinker that thinks he's paying everyone elses way in this world. No one gets to walk between the rain, I'm hoping you get help when you get wet.

 

Since over half of America now understands that ObamaCare is a good thing, I see you went back to the bottomless well of twisted things to blame Obama for. You are not alone.

 

78% of America believes that our government had some choices as to what 'to do with' the immigrant children coming from Central America. They could have shot them I suppose. In a few weeks you will see that most Americans are on board with what we needed to do in the Central American immigrant children situation. It's painful to watch the learning process. If you hurry back to the well you can be ready with the next twisted idea.

How much do you pay a month and how much do they cover?  Subtract the 2 and you'll get what someone else is paying for.  There is no such thing as a free lunch.  I personally have paid thousands and don't go to the doctor unless mandated by law.  I'm not saying your the problem, I'm saying it allows pharma to charge what they want because a pool is paying not an individual.  My friend Chris and his wife get over 5k a month in meds and they don't pay that much in insurance.  I told them that I don't think it's right for them to go without meds as they could die but I believe that insurance companies charge what they want and so do big pharma because they couldn't charge those prices if it wasn't for insurance and that ain't right.  Obamacare, as far as I know just pulled more people into the pool to pay the ever increasing costs.  I don't think it's right that life is used as chip in setting prices because of the system in place.  I think there should be more incentives for people who don't go to the doctor.  Between homeowners, car and health insurance, I've never used but it makes up a good amount of my pay each month.  Other people are screwing up out there and I'm paying each and every month for it.  Most likely I'll never use my homeowners and auto ins. and probably get hit by a bus. I personally hate to see that drugs with worse side effects than the original problem are out every day at my ins costs when MJ can help a lot of it and people can do it themselves.  the republicans should be all over it.  States rights,Personal responsibility and help with health care, give me a break.  It would be funny if not so tragic.

[Restorium2]

How much do you pay a month and how much do they cover?  Subtract the 2 and you'll get what someone else is paying for.  There is no such thing as a free lunch.  I personally have paid thousands and don't go to the doctor unless mandated by law.  I'm not saying your the problem, I'm saying it allows pharma to charge what they want because a pool is paying not an individual.  My friend Chris and his wife get over 5k a month in meds and they don't pay that much in insurance.  I told them that I don't think it's right for them to go without meds as they could die but I believe that insurance companies charge what they want and so do big pharma because they couldn't charge those prices if it wasn't for insurance and that ain't right.  Obamacare, as far as I know just pulled more people into the pool to pay the ever increasing costs.  I don't think it's right that life is used as chip in setting prices because of the system in place.  I think there should be more incentives for people who don't go to the doctor.  Between homeowners, car and health insurance, I've never used but it makes up a good amount of my pay each month.  Other people are screwing up out there and I'm paying each and every month for it.  Most likely I'll never use my homeowners and auto ins. and probably get hit by a bus. I personally hate to see that drugs with worse side effects than the original problem are out every day at my ins costs when MJ can help a lot of it and people can do it themselves.  the republicans should be all over it.  States rights,Personal responsibility and help with health care, give me a break.  It would be funny if not so tragic.

I paid them to insure me for a loss. I had a loss. It's that simple. Insurance companies would like to muddy up the water. I'm not buying it. They are weazling. It wouldn't be insurance if you have to compare a loss with what you pay in payments. That would be called a bank account.

 

Full Definition of INSURANCE

1

a : the business of insuring persons or property

b : coverage by contract whereby one party undertakes to indemnify or guarantee another against loss by a specified contingency or peril

[MedicatedJester]

I had an amazing conversation this weekend that involves the ACA.  I found out an acquaintance of mine was recently diagnosed with colon cancer - this is obviously terrible news.  When I was speaking with her about the diagnosis I found out that she only very recently was able to get health insurance given she has been an MS patient for many years, and therefore was unable to find health insurance.  It was due to the ACA and the mandate to cover pre-existing conditions that allowed her to finally get coverage.  In fact, as she had not had coverage for so long she was woefully behind on getting ongoing preventative care that she needed.  As part of that, she got a colonoscopy, and they found the tumor.  So, while it is a terrible diagnosis, without ACA she would have a death sentence instead.

 

I am not 100% happy with the ACA, and know few people who are.  This is the result of a highly complex issue being debated behind the veil of money and politics - you get left with a compromise.

 

That being said, it absolutely warms my heart to know that there is someone out there (probably many) who will literally have their lives saved by this act.  It is simply compassion.  This woman does not deserve to die because she has an MS diagnosis.  Anyone who feels she should because "they shouldn't have to pay for her health care" is cold.  Stone cold.

[Norby]

I paid them to insure me for a loss. I had a loss. It's that simple. Insurance companies would like to muddy up the water. I'm not buying it. They are weazling. It wouldn't be insurance if you have to compare a loss with what you pay in payments. That would be called a bank account.

 

Full Definition of INSURANCE

1

a : the business of insuring persons or property

b : coverage by contract whereby one party undertakes to indemnify or guarantee another against loss by a specified contingency or peril

But they don't go out of business they just raise the rates for everyone.  That's how insurance works.  The risk they took, others pay for.  and the risk involves pharma charging what they do for a fix.

Edited July 28, 2014 by Norby