Quadcarl Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I seen some BHO for sale at a dispensary, well their price list on Facebook, and seen that it is $30 1/2 gram!!! Quite pricey in my travels, so I'm curious what others think. It is in the U.P. so that probably has a lot to do with it. Same place wants $325 an oz for top shelf How about bubble hash, I'm used to $10 a gram, I "heard" $40 a gram but it wasn't advertised! I'm not fishing to do something nefarious, I'm just from Appleton WI area trying to wrap my head around these sky high prices. Different region equals different market equals different price. Thanks for any input community, stay positive out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shishka Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 That's pretty much where the market is at these days in MI. Even in Ann Arbor where there is lots of competition among dips for business, you are looking at the same except top shelf flower is going for $400+ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 those sound like fair commercial prices. My patients have never paid more than 225 for an ounce, or 35 for a gram/oil. It actually pays to find, groom, and trust a capable caregiver. Quadcarl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadcarl Posted March 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Yeah, I can get shatter/wax for $35 for the whole gram. I was taken back when I seen $30 for a HALF gram, sheesh. $400 an ounce, harsh. But different region different market. Glad as heck I have a compassionate caregiver, just came across some bubble but it was out of my price range. $30 gram NOT at a dispensery. I'm used to 10-15 but buying by the ounce of course so like 250-300 oz actually. Granted that stuff traveled from out west and made it's way to Wisconsin Thanks for the input guys, enjoy the weather Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shishka Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 Dips are generally going to be twice what caregivers are charging, simple as that. trichcycler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 keep this in mind; an ounce of bud will yield between 3-6 grams of pure oil(all of the active ingredients stripped from the vegetable material for a concrete ext) at 6 grams. @225 per ounce that's 37.50 g/oil, without consideration for processing, etc. I wouldnt make floor sweep hash for 10$ a gram! you have a kind generous processor for sure! stay cool, and keep em forever. I recall paying 10$ gram(retail) for Lebanese black hash, it came wrapped in the red cellophane bricks, but only balled up grams for my cheap azz. that was around 1985. GrowGoddess and flower pharm 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flower pharm Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 keep this in mind; an ounce of bud will yield between 3-6 grams of pure oil(all of the active ingredients stripped from the vegetable material for a concrete ext) at 6 grams. @225 per ounce that's 37.50 g/oil, without consideration for processing, etc. I wouldnt make floor sweep hash for 10$ a gram! you have a kind generous processor for sure! stay cool, and keep em forever. I recall paying 10$ gram(retail) for Lebanese black hash, it came wrapped in the red cellophane bricks, but only balled up grams for my cheap azz. that was around 1985. I THINK IVE FIGURED OUT THAT OLD SCHOOL TASTE. THAT I CANT GET ANYWHERE AFTER HIGHSCHOOL 1986. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I THINK IVE FIGURED OUT THAT OLD SCHOOL TASTE. THAT I CANT GET ANYWHERE AFTER HIGHSCHOOL 1986. please elaborate.... I'm old school, loved the 80's too, and am a taste monger, thus, you've captured my attention with carefully placed buzz words. (DNA) Afghan pack quickly locates the hashy taste of my yesteryear, for instance.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted March 12, 2015 Report Share Posted March 12, 2015 I crush my buds, quick shake in a large mason with 99% iso, change lids to a screen, drain, evaporate, and scrape up the brown mess. I let it air dry to powdery oily and press it heated into balls. the effects tastes, and looks are the hash of my past. I don't share it much though, because I'm selfish that way. Quadcarl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadcarl Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 keep this in mind; an ounce of bud will yield between 3-6 grams of pure oil(all of the active ingredients stripped from the vegetable material for a concrete ext) at 6 grams. @225 per ounce that's 37.50 g/oil, without consideration for processing, etc. I wouldnt make floor sweep hash for 10$ a gram! you have a kind generous processor for sure! stay cool, and keep em forever. I recall paying 10$ gram(retail) for Lebanese black hash, it came wrapped in the red cellophane bricks, but only balled up grams for my cheap azz. that was around 1985. Did some legwork (hehe) and found some quality bubble hash at 250 an ounce, and it's no floor sweep. Yeah grass when using BUD and calculating your yield average your price is right. But the bubble hash I'm after is made with TRIM so that changes the price right off the bat. And last I checked ice and water are cheaper than butane. Also affecting price. But that's hash not oil. All the same, I found what I needed today which is rare in my life so I'm super happy. Stay positive community:) GrowGoddess and zapatosunidos 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Keep in mind that dispensaries are operating near the edge of the law, so you kinda hafta figure they will charge more to compensate for the risk. Glad you found some meds. Edited March 13, 2015 by Highlander Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadcarl Posted March 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I totally understand markup, I was just stunned at the 1/2 gram of oil for $30 Obviously someone is buying it so I can only scoff at the price so much:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlander Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I totally understand markup, I was just stunned at the 1/2 gram of oil for $30 Obviously someone is buying it so I can only scoff at the price so much:) Yeah. The problem is the courts have ruled that the only protections are for transfers from a CG to his registered five patients. And the courts have pretty much ruled that there are no protections for oil at all. So anyone running a dispensary and selling oil to any patient is taking a huge gamble. GrowGoddess and phaquetoo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrowGoddess Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I seen some BHO for sale at a dispensary, well their price list on Facebook, and seen that it is $30 1/2 gram!!! Quite pricey in my travels, so I'm curious what others think. It is in the U.P. so that probably has a lot to do with it. Same place wants $325 an oz for top shelf How about bubble hash, I'm used to $10 a gram, I "heard" $40 a gram but it wasn't advertised! I'm not fishing to do something nefarious, I'm just from Appleton WI area trying to wrap my head around these sky high prices. Different region equals different market equals different price. Thanks for any input community, stay positive out there image.jpg you can't judge prices that way. The price depends on the quality of the merchandise. You can't judge it by looks. You can't judge it by its name. The only real way to judge it is purchase it and try it. I am 100% confident you would be more than happy to pay $100/gram of the ND Sap that I am using now. I can't handle more than one drop every two days, unless I am not working, then it would be one drop per day. It really depends on the quality of the original product, and extraction. when it comes to smoking, that is a little different. It is very wasteful. For me, eating it is the ultimate test that determines the quality, assuming it is decarbed. As soon as they make it legal, I would be more than happy to show instead of only tell GregS, zaphod, trichcycler and 3 others 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrowGoddess Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 keep this in mind; an ounce of bud will yield between 3-6 grams of pure oil(all of the active ingredients stripped from the vegetable material for a concrete ext) at 6 grams. @225 per ounce that's 37.50 g/oil, without consideration for processing, etc. I wouldnt make floor sweep hash for 10$ a gram! you have a kind generous processor for sure! stay cool, and keep em forever. I recall paying 10$ gram(retail) for Lebanese black hash, it came wrapped in the red cellophane bricks, but only balled up grams for my cheap azz. that was around 1985. I average about 4g of oil per ounce of buds. Using the absolute cream of the crop. Bisharoo and GregS 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smallbiz Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I'm at 5-6???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indigro Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 Keep in mind that dispensaries are operating near the edge of the law, so you kinda hafta figure they will charge more to compensate for the risk. Glad you found some meds. That explains the price points in black/grey markets, like ours. But 'legal' disp still fix to old prices... up to 25 a g for nugs, and 40+ on oil. Even if it goes corporate legal... why adjust prices down when they can hold the old margins? And they can/do. I'm talking not our particular area. Even if we get a dip bill... these prices will still be seen. Even if we give the market to massive commercial ops, these are the prices that will be seen. Soft to hard collusion happens. Quadcarl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregS Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) I average about 4g of oil per ounce of buds. Using the absolute cream of the crop. If we consider the price of good quality bud at $200 per oz., then does it not follow that the oil at $50 per gram is appropriate, even before we figure in the added value of extraction? Conversion ratios are simple enough to figure the value of keif too. Edited March 13, 2015 by GregS trichcycler and GrowGoddess 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorium2 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Price quote for 100% cannabis oil (solvent free): I usually gift it but just lately it's became more popular so it's '15 grams for $100' to my patients. Edited March 13, 2015 by Restorium2 Quadcarl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 (edited) Did some legwork (hehe) and found some quality bubble hash at 250 an ounce, and it's no floor sweep. Yeah grass when using BUD and calculating your yield average your price is right. But the bubble hash I'm after is made with TRIM so that changes the price right off the bat. And last I checked ice and water are cheaper than butane. Also affecting price. But that's hash not oil. All the same, I found what I needed today which is rare in my life so I'm super happy. Stay positive community:) Awesome find !!! sorry, wasn't degrading any choices, I call my trim="floor sweep" "bunny fodder" "scraps" etc. I understand there are wasted active ingredients within my scraps, and yet I choose to discard the bulk of it, sort of, as bunny food. the closed loop system I've used worked well with the more expensive N butane to extract, then a second later it reclaims 100% of the solvent to be used repetitively for the ultimate savings experience. Edited March 13, 2015 by grassmatch Quadcarl 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 I average about 4g of oil per ounce of buds. Using the absolute cream of the crop. like using a larger micron to sift, heating the solvent and or the bud can double my yield, but then we'd be dab'n more waxy trichome heads along with their contents. I suspect the disp market, driven by cash, is a popular venue for displaying the "heavier" oils, just saying. GrowGoddess 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorium2 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 like using a larger micron to sift, heating the solvent and or the bud can double my yield, but then we'd be dab'n more waxy trichome heads along with their contents. I suspect the disp market, driven by cash, is a popular venue for displaying the "heavier" oils, just saying. That would add plant wax and sugar. Winterizing would take that back out. I leave it in for eating and subtract it for vaping. Double your yield though? That must have been some very leafy stuff there. I get about 1/4 removable wax and sugar with a warm extraction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trichcycler Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 you may be targeting a different set of ingredients than me, via solvent choice/polarity? I don't winterize often, because the amount of wax in a cold extraction is minimal. warming my solvent and my bud easily doubles the yield. Since yields are not important to me I keep the process cold, the way I learned to do it while working at a compounding pharmacy, albeit, not with cannabis. I don't eat oil, but I do know exactly what you speak of. Occasionally I puff some dry sift and the waxy trichomes are actually tasty. I just don't think they belong in my concretes though. I don't use "leafy stuff" to extract from. Leafy stuff has less active ingredients, and has left me with much work for little return comparatively, so I feed the bunnies for the free organic fertilizer instead. They like waxy sugary leafy stuff lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorium2 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 you may be targeting a different set of ingredients than me, via solvent choice/polarity? I don't winterize often, because the amount of wax in a cold extraction is minimal. warming my solvent and my bud easily doubles the yield. Since yields are not important to me I keep the process cold, the way I learned to do it while working at a compounding pharmacy, albeit, not with cannabis. I don't eat oil, but I do know exactly what you speak of. Occasionally I puff some dry sift and the waxy trichomes are actually tasty. I just don't think they belong in my concretes though. I don't use "leafy stuff" to extract from. Leafy stuff has less active ingredients, and has left me with much work for little return comparatively, so I feed the bunnies for the free organic fertilizer instead. They like waxy sugary leafy stuff lol Yields are not important to me either because I usually gift it. What's important to me is to capture everything medicinal. Then I decide how to 'finish' it depending on the 'use'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restorium2 Posted March 13, 2015 Report Share Posted March 13, 2015 the way I learned to do it while working at a compounding pharmacy, albeit, not with cannabis. The way I learned it was from a guy who has been making cannabis oil since the 70's. A lot of trial and error in those years. Hydraulic Jack 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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