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LANSING, Mich. - Michigan would tax and regulate medical marijuana in a tiered licensing system under legislation that has cleared a big hurdle in the Legislature.


The Republican-controlled Senate voted 25-12 for a bill Thursday to require a state operating license to grow, process, sell, transport or test marijuana used for medical purposes. Another bill clarifies that allowable marijuana includes non-smokable forms such as oils, food items and pills.



"Provisioning centers" that sell marijuana to patients or their caregivers would pay a 3 percent tax on their gross retail income.


Advocates say the measures are necessary due to confusion over Michigan's 2008 voter-approved initiative that legalized medical marijuana.


The Senate voted nearly a year after the legislation won House approval. The House could take final votes as early as next week.


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Hey Wet, It's cool, I reread my post and it was a little on the harsh side, overworked I think...   I don't have any money, I am taking out loans and mortgaging my house to make this happen, becaus

This is not just about your caregiver business  some people need oils as medicine , Thank you 

The good news is that oils and eatables will finally be legal.

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Did they pass the edibles also? 

I checked the Mileg website literally seconds ago. For Hb4209 (dispensary) and 4827 (seed to sale), it shows the document as passed by the senate. But for Hb4210 (edibles) the senate document is greyed out. Hopefully just a timing thing that will resolve in a day. 

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Caregivers are not threatened just yet, but make no mistake they are eventually going to try. I am wishing I could see a couple years into the future, I have a feeling this is not going to work out at all like they planned. Also do even of you believe for a second all of the dispensaries in Genessee County, Ypsi, Lansing or Detroit are going to just close up and fall in under this format?  They have a dedicated grower, a designated tester, a designated transporter and finally the dedicated provisioning center. All of these entities are trying to make a profit. Lets see how well they can compete against the already established caregivers, patients and dispensaries already doing their thing.

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Caregivers are not threatened just yet, but make no mistake they are eventually going to try. I am wishing I could see a couple years into the future, I have a feeling this is not going to work out at all like they planned. Also do even of you believe for a second all of the dispensaries in Genessee County, Ypsi, Lansing or Detroit are going to just close up and fall in under this format? They have a dedicated grower, a designated tester, a designated transporter and finally the dedicated provisioning center. All of these entities are trying to make a profit. Lets see how well they can compete against the already established caregivers, patients and dispensaries already doing their thing.

I think in the end this is part of the plan, make a system that will fail so they can blame the caregivers. That way they can justify cutting us out to have the large grow be successful. And they got 4 years to screw us...

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I think in the end this is part of the plan, make a system that will fail so they can blame the caregivers. That way they can justify cutting us out to have the large grow be successful. And they got 4 years to screw us...

That's the way I see this too. They are setting up an impossibly complex, convoluted (and totally unneeded) system that will make it extremely difficult for participants to be in compliance with.

 

They are doing the same thing with abortions. They can't outright ban abortions so they impose hurdles that make it virtually impossible to obtain an abortion.

 

This seems to be the Republicans modus operandi. They try to make it appear that they are doing something helpful when a little deeper reading shows that are actually helping to bury (in regulation) the subject of their disdain.

 

If you don't like it, kill it with regulation. Thank you small government Republicans.

To be fair, I think Democrats do the same thing.

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Caregivers are not threatened just yet, but make no mistake they are eventually going to try. I am wishing I could see a couple years into the future, I have a feeling this is not going to work out at all like they planned. Also do even of you believe for a second all of the dispensaries in Genessee County, Ypsi, Lansing or Detroit are going to just close up and fall in under this format?  They have a dedicated grower, a designated tester, a designated transporter and finally the dedicated provisioning center. All of these entities are trying to make a profit. Lets see how well they can compete against the already established caregivers, patients and dispensaries already doing their thing.

In the last 2-3 years I've seen prices for quality meds drop to around $160/oz in Genesee County. What's kinda funny is that the regulators don't seem to understand the situation of old growers providing meds and they don't understand old school networks. Old growers are gonna do what old growers do. It's kinda like moon shining. When I visit my friends in West Virginia I can buy quarts of moonshine for about $8 each. Once Michigan decides to ad costs for testing, transport, etc and a complex regulatory framework, the costs for meds will be sky-high. And then old time growers will decide not to participate in the program.

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No way that these provisioning centers are a viable business model with just medical patients. The costs are just too high and they will be competing for a small pool of customers. Crap how many of us know patients that can afford to even buy half ounce at $150 an ounce. The profit margins got really slim with that bill, and their will be too many competing for too few patients.

 

As that bill sits now anyone crazy enough to open a dispensary, become a commercial grower, or make oil or eatables is going to wind up with no more profit margin than any other business. Who wants the hassle of dealing with all the bullcrap for that kind of money. The transporters might have a shot at being profitable as well as the labs doing the testing. But that's it. To make the growers and centers profitable they will either have to eliminate caregivers [and that might not do it] or lessen the regulations.

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So, for anyone else that read 4209, am i right in thinking that it goes into effect 90 days after it becomes law? Its says 360, but in the amendments says 90.

 

Also seems state police and sherrifs get a pretty good piece of the pie...a small amount for substance abuse programs, but where does the rest of that money go?ffs

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