Albertus Magnus Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 I have been running what I think is Cannatonic 4 for around 8 years. It came from the Lansing area. I don't think it is the Perkins cut and I think it has more THC. The one I am growing has a real fruity cherry smell when grown and smoked. Live resin tastes like cherries and like nothing else I have ever tried. Dabbing it for a few days can make me feel depressed. I have seen it work wonders with Parkinson's patients and I also make it into an ISO and mix it with high THC ISO for a cancer patient. Does anyone else have any experience with this cut? Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zeebudz Posted October 17, 2018 Report Share Posted October 17, 2018 (edited) I wouldn't bill it as Cannatonic if you only "think" it is, and most certainly you shouldn't distribute it to folks who want a high CBD product (for Parkinson's, epilepsy, Crohn's, etc) unless you have it tested. To do otherwise would be irresponsible. Edited October 17, 2018 by zeebudz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackhorse Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 (edited) I've ran Cannatonic for years and it has a grape smell to me. Mixed the cannatonic with high thc also. Patient usually likes to mix with the high thc as it works better for them. Each patient is different. One patient started getting head aches after smoking too much of the cannatonic, reduced the percentage of cannatonic and head aches went away. Also make butter with 4:1 ratio of high thc to cannatonic. Most plants stay small (3' heights) but this year plants are 5' high. Clones from last year so know they are same cut. Get no high from these plants though. Edited October 18, 2018 by blackhorse Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Restorium2 Posted October 18, 2018 Report Share Posted October 18, 2018 1 hour ago, blackhorse said: I've ran Cannatonic for years and it has a grape smell to me. Mixed the cannatonic with high thc also. Patient usually likes to mix with the high thc as it works better for them. Each patient is different. One patient started getting head aches after smoking too much of the cannatonic, reduced the percentage of cannatonic and head aches went away. Also make butter with 4:1 ratio of high thc to cannatonic. Most plants stay small (3' heights) but this year plants are 5' high. Clones from last year so know they are same cut. Get no high from these plants though. What is the reason for growing a low thc strain then mixing it with more thc? How is it different than just growing a well balanced strain and not mixing? Ever since the 70's everyone I know who smoked low thc cannabis got a headache. That's nothing new to the old school real folks. Been watching newbies catch on to the fact that high cbd doesn't do much but give headaches. They hardly ever listen to the experienced and need a headache to understand. Can't argue with a headache can they? Wild Bill 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackhorse Posted October 19, 2018 Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 The cbd does help with seizures. One patient uses a mixture of cbd and thc to help control the seizures. Another patient uses cannatonic in making butter, no high thc. So each person has their own requirements. I have grown Star Tonic which is a mixture of both, hard to find now. Some people want nothing to do with cbd, that is fine with me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Albertus Magnus Posted October 19, 2018 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2018 (edited) I don't understand being called irresponsible right out of the gate, could make a person not want to come back and post. I asked if anyone had any knowledge about this strain of Cann 4 because, I think the one I have has higher THC in it than the Perkins cut. Not a lot more but some more. The plant grows super slow and smells like skittles on steroids. These are the test results of the ISO my Stage 4, Non- Hodgkin's Lymphoma cancer patients gets. It has saved/prolonged his life and the Cancer Institute of America has it documented. This same dose helps 2 patients with Parkinsons who like the THC. This is a combination of two refined grain alcohol extractions (filtered to 1 Micron) mixed together and tested. The alcohol is reclaimed using thermal dynamics under full vacuum at low temperature so the cannabinoids are not activated. Dabs of this tastes like cherries and will mess you up. Good for pain also. I will get a picture of the plant later tonight when my lights come on. Maybe that can help ID it. Test Compounds CBDV THCV CBC CBD Δ8 THC Δ9 THC CBG CBN TOTAL Amount N/D 0.3 1.7 27.0 0.2 36.0 2.3 N/D 67.5% Edited October 19, 2018 by Albertus Magnus blackhorse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
zeebudz Posted October 20, 2018 Report Share Posted October 20, 2018 (edited) Read what I said again. I didn't call you irresponsible. I said it would be irresponsible to distribute a strain to folks who want high CBD unless it tested as such. Edited October 20, 2018 by zeebudz Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kevinjoseph Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Cannatonic is a unique hybrid strain bred by Spanish seed bank Resin Seeds specifically for its low THC content (rarely above 6%) and high CBD content. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackhorse Posted July 4, 2019 Report Share Posted July 4, 2019 Resin Seeds states that 50% of seeds will be 1:1 ratio, 25% at high cbd, 25% at high thc. So would need to test each plant to get the high cbd plant, which could be cloned over and over. Also this is cannatonic 1 instead of cannatonic 4. Cannatonic 4 is still out there, just hard to locate. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
garyfisher Posted July 5, 2019 Report Share Posted July 5, 2019 I have a true and tested Star Tonic available. I had it tested at Iron Labs 5 years ago and it came out as 22% total cannabinoids. 7.5% thc. 11.5% cbd, 0.5% CBG I have one cutting available besides the one i have saved for black horse. blackhorse and wjkingsnorth 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wjkingsnorth Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 Cannatonic #4 mixed in a grind with any sativa is what I use year round. I have seeds I am picking up today that I got from Holland. I have not found any at dispensaries in the last couple months. blackhorse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wjkingsnorth Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 On 10/18/2018 at 9:57 AM, Restorium2 said: What is the reason for growing a low thc strain then mixing it with more thc? How is it different than just growing a well balanced strain and not mixing? I can tell you why I do. I want to be able to control the amount of THC in what I smoke. I do a grind of 2 parts cannatonic and 1 part sativa. I grind it all together and then adjust it if I need to. I don't like getting high. I am after the CBD and add the thc to make the pain relief last longer. I can't speak for anyone else, but this works for me. blackhorse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Restorium2 Posted September 4, 2019 Report Share Posted September 4, 2019 1 hour ago, wjkingsnorth said: I can tell you why I do. I want to be able to control the amount of THC in what I smoke. I do a grind of 2 parts cannatonic and 1 part sativa. I grind it all together and then adjust it if I need to. I don't like getting high. I am after the CBD and add the thc to make the pain relief last longer. I can't speak for anyone else, but this works for me. Very good. Check out that the boiling points of THC and CBD are different. Might help with 'adjusting'. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackhorse Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 I have a new strain called cookies and cheese that is 20% thc and 18% cbd. This strain is good for person who needs the high thc and also the high cbd. The high cbd helps with seizures. Very happy with this plant. Just started a high cbd with under .5 thc. Similar to Cannatonic #4. Would love to get Cannatonic again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slappy Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 I was talking to someone about it a few days ago. However I am not too sure if they were referring to the local clone, or something they popped from a seed. I can find out though. blackhorse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wjkingsnorth Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 Got my Cannatonic seeds yesterday. Now I have to wait until may to start growing it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackhorse Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 5 hours ago, wjkingsnorth said: Got my Cannatonic seeds yesterday. Now I have to wait until may to start growing it. What seed company and ratio of thc/cbd? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slappy Posted September 5, 2019 Report Share Posted September 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Slappy said: I was talking to someone about it a few days ago. However I am not too sure if they were referring to the local clone, or something they popped from a seed. I can find out though. So dude has the local cut among 25 other strains. He said Cannatonic#4 will be available in about a month or so. Supposed to get a list of other strains as they become available. blackhorse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackhorse Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 16 hours ago, Slappy said: So dude has the local cut among 25 other strains. He said Cannatonic#4 will be available in about a month or so. Supposed to get a list of other strains as they become available. I would be interested in getting a cut of the Cannatonic #4. Slappy 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wjkingsnorth Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 16 hours ago, blackhorse said: What seed company and ratio of thc/cbd? MSNL blackhorse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wjkingsnorth Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 Well, I just bought a 4'x4'x80" tent for the basement. My wife will have to deal with the smell. Nobody seems to be growing CBD strains for the dispensaries as I have not been able to find Cannatonic anywhere. Going to start some seeds tonight. They will be ready for the new tent by the time it arrives. I may try to put a dryer vent in the glass block window downstairs where the tent will be. I have a good filter system, but it is too big for my small 2'x4'x72" tent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blackhorse Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, wjkingsnorth said: Well, I just bought a 4'x4'x80" tent for the basement. My wife will have to deal with the smell. Nobody seems to be growing CBD strains for the dispensaries as I have not been able to find Cannatonic anywhere. Going to start some seeds tonight. They will be ready for the new tent by the time it arrives. I may try to put a dryer vent in the glass block window downstairs where the tent will be. I have a good filter system, but it is too big for my small 2'x4'x72" tent. Same here in Standish area. No cannatonic bud for sale or any clones on the market. Popping a high cbd at this time, ordered from seedsman. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slappy Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 8 hours ago, blackhorse said: I would be interested in getting a cut of the Cannatonic #4. For sure. I've always passed her up in the past, but after seeing this topic here on the forum...I just might have to hold on to one myself as well. Didn't realize how popular she was. blackhorse 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slappy Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 4 hours ago, wjkingsnorth said: Well, I just bought a 4'x4'x80" tent for the basement. My wife will have to deal with the smell. Nobody seems to be growing CBD strains for the dispensaries as I have not been able to find Cannatonic anywhere. Going to start some seeds tonight. They will be ready for the new tent by the time it arrives. I may try to put a dryer vent in the glass block window downstairs where the tent will be. I have a good filter system, but it is too big for my small 2'x4'x72" tent. You shouldn't have much smell if you are using the right carbon-filter fan combo. You'll likely have to upgrade that as well to keep your wife happy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
wjkingsnorth Posted September 7, 2019 Report Share Posted September 7, 2019 11 hours ago, Slappy said: You shouldn't have much smell if you are using the right carbon-filter fan combo. You'll likely have to upgrade that as well to keep your wife happy. Have you ever smelled Cannatonic #4, it is musty smelling. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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