Proven Nutrient Regiment?

[AbsoluteRoyal]

I have been considering using the 3 pack from Fox Farm with my Budcandy and calmag as supplements. Also does anyone know of a good priced root inoculant?

[naturescaregivers]

You can't go wrong with the fox farm line, especially if you throw in budcandy. I've used budcandy and it seems to work well. A good priced inoculant that I use is Earth Ambrosia/Earth Nectar. It costs around 30 dollars and is a 2 part innoculant. I've been using that and it seems to be working well.

 

Just for clarification... Are you using just the fox farm trio pack (open sesame, beastie, cha ching)? If so... you need to add in the FF base nutrients.

[noctuanlreef]

crap on fox farms... what strain are you growing? if you require a high EC on your strains you will have chem. Defic. from fox farms... it's a OK strater line.. basically almost all chemical lines do the exact same thing. I have grown with EVERYTHING except the new advanced nutrient line cause it's too exspensive to properly test and be pissed i spent the money for nothing.. but basically the humboldt line produces a massive amount of trichromes more than any line IMOP ... and i grow 100% organic up to hydro... humboldts lines also tend to give a shorter space between nodes which gives a bit more production depending on how you grow.... and as long as you know what you are doing and EASE into the full strength regimine you will be golden with humboldt.... i would start out with the oneness progran it's the cheapest and easiest and you can apply your leftovers to a more advanced regimine later..

[noctuanlreef]

oh and if you have defic. with fox farms you can't buy a say fox farms Calcium or magnesium suppliment.... you have to go with another company and impliment it.... it's all on how serious you are about growing and what strains... you can grow a kush strain with fox farms cause they are simple and require less nutrients but you not going to grow a super lemon haze 100% successfully and proper with a fox farms line because of the nutrients it requires to FULLY flourish..... and all you people out there say i grow SLH with fox farms .. yeah i'm not saying you can't grow it with that line... im saying to make the plant robust and amazing productive you can't with faox farms.. bottom line...

 

but that's what i learned on it's simple and as long as you don't OD your plants on chemicals it's a good learning chemical line.

[noctuanlreef]

and the beastie addatives and such in MOST cases break down to different sugars.. obviously theres more to it than that but it's really different sugars for your plant to eat up and increase their trichromes and bud density... unsulferd molasses will do the same, you can do an organic grow cheap if u want go guano stages and in the last few months with guano add some molasses for sugars to boost your bloom.. it's a really basic and cheap way to grow and grow organic.

[Grow Thread]

ive used this

 

ive used this

THE LUCAS METHOD

 

the "Lucas Method" is very simple, cheap, and it obviously works as is evident in the pics in this thread. we only need 2 kinds of nutes. General Hydroponic Flora Micro and General Hydroponic Flora Bloom.

 

 

here is the formula:

 

VEG: 5ml of Micro and 10ml of Bloom per gallon of water. (5-10) IF VEGGING UNDER CFL LIGHTS

VEG: 8ml of Micro and 16ml of Bloom per gallon of water. (8-16) IF VEGGING UNDER HID LAMPS

FLOWER: 8ml Micro and 16ml of bloom per gallon of water. (8-16)

 

 

there are a couple different methods on backfilling whatever the plants drink/what evaporates. i recommend backfilling with full strength nutes/water as needed to maintain the proper water level in the bucket/tote, and then doing two rez changes throughout the cycle. once at the switch to flower, and once after about 3-4 weeks of flower.

 

 

---and here is a "normal" schedule for a plant:

 

seedling/clone/veg 2-4 weeks. 8-16 nutes. 1/2 strength for first few days for seedlings. 5-10 nutes under flourescent lights

rez change

flip the lights to 12/12

flush (just plain ph'd water for 24-48 hours)

rez change and continue with 8-16 nutes

after a month i try to flush once again

then back to 8-16 nutes

 

 

after 6 weeks of flower, depending on the strain and how much longer it will need to finish, i have to make a decision. i "final flush" for a week minimum so if i am growing a 7-8 week strain i will go into final flush now. if it is a 8-12 week strain i will go back to 8-16 nutes for as long as needed and then into final flush for the last week or so.

 

 

also, another couple freebie tips. when adding the nutes, add the micro to the water first, and then the bloom. NEVER mix the 2 nutes together and then add the combination to water. this WILL promote lock-out.

 

after adding both nutes (separately of course) STIR/SHAKE WELL!! can't say it enough. make sure you have it all mixed up real good. don't rely on your bubbles to do the mixing for you.

 

the flora micro will stain carpet/clothes if not tended to right away

 

assuming you are starting with r.o. water (ph7) the nutes will drop the ph to a perfect 5.5-6.0. i RARELY have to add ph down to maintain proper levels. at any rate, do whatever needs to be done to maintain a 5.5-6.0ph level. and i keep my water temps at 68-70 degrees.

 

also, for 99 cents ANYWHERE in the kitchen department. (target-walmart) this is my best friend. the turkey baster. perfect for measuring nutes out.

 

 

 

here are another couple ways to work with this formula:

 

1. Top off the reservoir daily using a pH corrected water solution as required to maintain full reservoir level. After adding back an amount of water equal to the amount of your reservoir capacity you should change the reservoir and put in fresh solution.

 

2. Top off the reservoir daily using a pH corrected 100% strength nutrient solution as required to maintain full reservoir level. Continue to use this nutrient solution without dumping the tank unless the PPM rises above acceptable levels.

 

Between vegetative and flowering cycles you should dump your nutrients, then flush (possibly with Clearex) to remove salt buildups, then change to the other feeding program. Always shake your GH nutrient bottles before using them!

 

For young plants, just transplanted into the hydro setup, give them 50% strength nutrient mix to prevent overfeeding them while their young. Gradually bring up the mix to full strength as they grow over the next few weeks or so.

 

The lucas formula is normally intended for use with RO or near 0 PPM water.

 

NOTE: The Lucas formula eliminates the need for Epsom salts to correct (Magnesium) Mg deficiencies in most normal feeding programs recommended by manufacturers. Cannabis needs a lot of Magnesium to thrive.

 

The Flora Micro is providing the Nitrogen and the Magnesium in the proper balance, thus there is no need for the Grow formula and little or no room under the maximum acceptable ppm limit of 1600 @ 0.7 conversion.

 

Calculated EC/TDS levels:

 

EC microsiemen:

0-4-8: 946 µS

0-5-10: 1184 µS

0-8-16: 1894 µS

 

TDS @ 0.5 conversion:

0-4-8 = 473 ppm

0-5-10 = 592 ppm

0-8-16 = 947 ppm

 

TDS @ 0.7 conversion:

0-4-8 = 663 ppm

0-5-10 = 829 ppm

0-8-16 = 1326 ppm

 

Addback Calculator - (For Advanced Users)

 

Say you were running the 0-8-16 formula, at 0.7 conversion with a 22 gallon res. When you first fill it up, your ppm will be around 1330.

 

Now you have been growing for a week, and some of the water has been taken up by the plants, some has evaporated, and now your res is at 947 ppm. You need to get your ppm from 947 to 1330. Here is the equation:

 

((target - current) / target) * 8 ml per gallon * res gallons = Flora Micro (ml) double this figure to get Flora Bloom (ml)

 

Example:

 

((1330 - 947) / 1330) * 8 * 22

(383 / 1330) * 8 * 22

0.3 * 8 * 22 = 53 ml Flora Micro

 

53 ml Flora Micro, double that and you get 106 ml Flora Bloom. So 53 ml Flora Micro and 106 ml Flora Bloom to add back to your 22 gallon res to get you from 947 to 1330.

 

 

One tip - do not pH down this stuff, the hard water micro will drop pH gradually over the next 24 hours, for example I mix up a batch, it is at like 6.2, the next day, its at 5.6-5.8 after running in the system for a while. If I pH downed that to 5.7 before putting it in the system, it ended up as low as 4.8-5.2 by the next day.

 

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** major props and many thanks to Lucas. i have spent countless hours reading his charts and study logs. the man is brilliant.

 

and many others............

 

you have specific questions on anything??

[AbsoluteRoyal]

You can't go wrong with the fox farm line, especially if you throw in budcandy. I've used budcandy and it seems to work well. A good priced inoculant that I use is Earth Ambrosia/Earth Nectar. It costs around 30 dollars and is a 2 part innoculant. I've been using that and it seems to be working well.

 

Just for clarification... Are you using just the fox farm trio pack (open sesame, beastie, cha ching)? If so... you need to add in the FF base nutrients.

Grow Big, Big Bloom, Tiger Bloom. I have used all but the Tiger Bloom before. Also because I run a little rich soil I never plan to go above half strength, execpt the Big Bloom.

 

I used Dr. hornby's Big Bud powder from advanced nutrients last and had smaller yields then with my very cheap organic BMO flower power.

[AbsoluteRoyal]

Does the flush before flowering apply to soil growing as well?

[K B]

spend the money on Advanced Nutrients entire line you wont be disappointed..you can omit things from it that you really dont need..at the moment this is what I use, Heavy Harvest (spring, summer, fall), piranha, tarantula, voodoo juice, carboload, and big bud..I'll also be buyng bud igniter, and final phase soon...but this works like none other..at least for me it does...

 

pictues from last week

 

bet yea cant find a single burnt tip, no nute def., not one leaf sagging ..these plants are 100% perfect

[G3LLO]

Just go ORGANIC =)