xskywlkr Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 hello, i suffer from a severe and chronic pain in my left knee. my symptoms are that of fibromyalgia. but don't have insurance so i never saw a doctor about my condition. though, i do have a history with insomnia, i was last prescribed ambien before my insurance was cut. since than i've became VERY turned off by pills, and man made medications, and am very interested in trying a natural cure to my pain/conditions. can anyone refer me to a compassionate doctor, who wouldn't NEED to see a history of pain in my knee? if so, please leave me with information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ionic7 Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 hello, i suffer from a severe and chronic pain in my left knee. my symptoms are that of fibromyalgia. but don't have insurance so i never saw a doctor about my condition. though, i do have a history with insomnia, i was last prescribed ambien before my insurance was cut. since than i've became VERY turned off by pills, and man made medications, and am very interested in trying a natural cure to my pain/conditions. can anyone refer me to a compassionate doctor, who wouldn't NEED to see a history of pain in my knee? if so, please leave me with information. Most doctors will want a history before you do any sort of pain regiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtarzanmd Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 hello, can anyone refer me to a compassionate doctor, who wouldn't NEED to see a history of pain in my knee? if so, please leave me with information. First of all , Welcome " xskywlkr " to MMMMA 2.0 As far as finding a compassion doctor that will certify you w/out a pror history will be tough ... There is'nt a Community Medical Center in your Area that base their visits off your income ? I use to go to a community clinic that charged like $7.00 per visit ... Just an ideal ? Hopefully you 'll find something ? Maybe try going to your local Compassion Club and someone will be able to help you more there ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xskywlkr Posted June 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 First of all , Welcome " xskywlkr " to MMMMA 2.0 As far as finding a compassion doctor that will certify you w/out a pror history will be tough ... There is'nt a Community Medical Center in your Area that base their visits off your income ? I use to go to a community clinic that charged like $7.00 per visit ... Just an ideal ? Hopefully you 'll find something ? Maybe try going to your local Compassion Club and someone will be able to help you more there ? are you saying i could walk into a walk-in clinic; tell them about my pain. than see an mmmj doctor and everything should be cool ? please some elaborate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Marywanna Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 You must have your condition diagnosed,and meet the criteria set by the State. No,you can't just walk into a free clinic and hope they will document it for you. You need 3 years of medical records,thats what the law says. Hope this helps. MW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xskywlkr Posted June 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 You must have your condition diagnosed,and meet the criteria set by the State. No,you can't just walk into a free clinic and hope they will document it for you. You need 3 years of medical records,thats what the law says. Hope this helps. MW it doesn't help at all. didn't you read my first post? lol. i read on here about people obtaining medical cards w/o prior documentation from a dr. crocker, and a dr. ruth buck. how come none of this is being said. there is doctors out there doing this; i beleive. if i am wrong let me know. this is what i'm trying to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 You must have your condition diagnosed,and meet the criteria set by the State. No,you can't just walk into a free clinic and hope they will document it for you. You need 3 years of medical records,thats what the law says. Hope this helps. MW nowhere in the law does it mention 3 yrs worth of medical records...........some mmj clinics require THAT(like THC-F clinic) in order to see you. they dont have to be 3 yrs total....just not OLDER than 3 yrs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 nowhere in the law does it mention 3 yrs worth of medical records...........some mmj clinics require THAT(like THC-F clinic) in order to see you. they dont have to be 3 yrs total....just not OLDER than 3 yrs you will need to goto a clinic for a few months documenting your pain, then see one of the mmj clinics with YOUR med record. all you need to do is prove your CHRONIC pain.........peace wolf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jon165 Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 Some doctors will take a pain journal for a month instead of/in addition to medical records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ms Chocolate Posted June 15, 2010 Report Share Posted June 15, 2010 This is not California, there are no short-cuts. To be certified in Michigan you must have a severe and chronic condition; that condition must have been diagnosed by a physician. Your recommendation must be obtained from a qualified MD or OD. You must have an established relationship with this physician can then provide written certifications, in the course of a bona fide physician-patient relationship and after the physician has completed a full assessment of the qualifying patient's medical history. http://www.michigan.gov/mdch/0,1607,7-132-2943_52115---,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Medicinal Patient Posted June 16, 2010 Report Share Posted June 16, 2010 it doesn't help at all. didn't you read my first post? lol. i read on here about people obtaining medical cards w/o prior documentation from a dr. crocker, and a dr. ruth buck. how come none of this is being said. there is doctors out there doing this; i beleive. if i am wrong let me know. this is what i'm trying to find out. Maybe call and find out Dr Crockers policy? Not sure if Dr Ruth is allowed to practice right now? Or maybe you can go into one of these walk in clinics and they can order you some xrays for your knee. If you go have this done and then go back to the clinic for a follow up with the same chief complaints that should be sufficient enough I would think. I have found Primarys here in Grand Rapids who will see patients without insurance while medicaid is pending. 2 visits and your golden. My Primary dragged her feet the entire 30day limit to hand over my medical records tho. Its going to take you a couple months to get 2 visits in. Maybe documentation from a med center or ER would be quicker seeings how you can go in whenever you want. Good Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+420Atheist Posted June 17, 2010 Report Share Posted June 17, 2010 Dr Crocker requires a copy of the chart notes from 3 recent visits for the qualifying condition. You mentioned fibromyalgia so you must have a diagnosis from sometime? Because that condition is not curable some doctors might take older records. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marijane115 Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 Please give us a call at Mid-Michigan's medical marijuana- 989-332-4881. Dr. Ruth Ann Buck is able to see patients, write certifications and we are seeing patients on a regular basis. We do things a bit differently. You will complete a full medical assessment and spend a good amount of time with Dr. Ruth. She is good and thorough. Many out there do not have insurance and don't have the records that some clinics are requiring. Because you will spend time with the doctor, the requirements for 3 years/multiple visits etc. are not necessarily required. We take patients on an individual basis. There is help for you. She is currently fighting a battle with the DEA and that issue does not impact her medical license. Hope to hear from you... Joey Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drtarzanmd Posted June 18, 2010 Report Share Posted June 18, 2010 are you saying i could walk into a walk-in clinic; tell them about my pain. than see an mmmj doctor and everything should be cool ? please some elaborate. That was kinda my point... Going to the clinic and getting your condition on record , 3 or 4 visits . Then go see a Compassion doctor ... You do NOT need 3 years of records ... Yes it surely looks better if you had 3 years ... i had over 8 years , w/ proff of the past 4 years taking 180 lortabs every 27 days ... It looks like your getting alot of good suggestions ... Please do yourself a favor and start attenting some local Compassion Meetings and get yourself a Support Team... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawyercaregiver Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 Please give us a call at Mid-Michigan's medical marijuana- 989-332-4881. Dr. Ruth Ann Buck is able to see patients, write certifications and we are seeing patients on a regular basis. We do things a bit differently. You will complete a full medical assessment and spend a good amount of time with Dr. Ruth. She is good and thorough. Many out there do not have insurance and don't have the records that some clinics are requiring. Because you will spend time with the doctor, the requirements for 3 years/multiple visits etc. are not necessarily required. We take patients on an individual basis. There is help for you. She is currently fighting a battle with the DEA and that issue does not impact her medical license. Hope to hear from you... Joey If Dr. Buck is an MD or DO this is by far the best advice you are going to get! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKenewell Posted July 17, 2010 Report Share Posted July 17, 2010 This is not California, there is no short-cuts. To be certified in Michigan you must have a severe and chronic condition; that condition must have been diagnosed by a physician. Your recommendation must be obtained from a qualified MD or OD. You must have an established relationship with this physician can provide written certifications, in the course of a bona fide physician-patient relationship and after the physician has completed a full assessment of the qualifying patient's medical history. http://www.michigan.gov/mdch/0,1607,7-132-2943_52115---,00.html MS Chocolate.....Well, Well Said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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