K2?

[first mate]

Went to a "head shop" today to check out some scales....got into a conversation with the owner about this substance called K2...completely legal and will not show up in urine ...I asked him what it's chemical make up was and ...he didn't know some type of ferts that were applied to a plant that produced the high...well I informed him that I'm not really into smoking fertilizers (flush my plants at least 2 weeks prior to harvest)...what's the scoop on this stuff has anybody out there tried it?...He swears "it's every bit as good as most marijauna out there"

[porcupine]

Went to a "head shop" today to check out some scales....got into a conversation with the owner about this substance called K2...completely legal and will not show up in urine ...I asked him what it's chemical make up was and ...he didn't know some type of ferts that were applied to a plant that produced the high...well I informed him that I'm not really into smoking fertilizers (flush my plants at least 2 weeks prior to harvest)...what's the scoop on this stuff has anybody out there tried it?...He swears "it's every bit as good as most marijauna out there"

It is a substance with synthetic cannabinoids sprayed on. Total B.S.

It pales in comparison with cannabis.

[imiubu]

I tried to post an article that I had read on the 24th. but,

due to the fact it had a pic, I was told that I wasn't authorized

to post that type of pic... or something of the sort. Thing

that caught my eye is.. the photo was taken at the front of

the same shop I had been in on the day they snapped the

shot and of course I was curious. The sign said "K2 sold

here". I asked the clerk what the h it was too. Later reading

the article, I was more informed. The purpose for the

story was that some elected official (can't recall name)

is trying to put K2 and another substance called BZT

in a schedule 1 classification. This is said to be a

way to protect children as the K2 looks too much like

potpourri and the BZT looks like a piece of candy.

The article is in a local Lansing news medium but...

I'm sorry not to have the link. I know it was on 6/23/10

if anyone would like to check it out.

Oh, I didn't try the K2.

peace

[Snakeman_55]

It may be JWH-018 or JWH-073 both synthetic canniboids, alot of info out there both of them. I first looked them up when my stepson,26, showed up with King Krypto. Here's a link for one site but me personally I don't want my wife/patient using this stuff as there's to much unknown about it.

[porcupine]

Here is a cut and paste from a search (not my words):

 

 

 

Smokable herbal blends marketed as "legal highs" have become increasingly popular and as easy to buy as cigarettes.

The blends of exotic herbs and other plants have been sprayed or coated with one or more chemicals that, when smoked, produce euphoria. They are commonly labeled as herbal incense to mask their intended purpose. These contain drugs that are dangerous and should be illegal.

"K2" is a brand name for a dried herbal blend that can be smoked. It produces a high similar to that of marijuana but doesn't contain tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the psychoactive chemical in marijuana. Instead, K2 contains synthetic chemicals, known as JWH-018 and JWH-073, that mimic THC by acting on the cannabinoid receptors in the brain.

JWH-018 and JWH-073 are produced in China and unregulated in the United States. Similar products have been produced and marketed under names such as Spice, Genie, Blaze, Red X Dawn and Zohai. Since 2009, the Drug Enforcement Administration has been receiving reports of the abuse of these herbal products.

K2's key ingredients were invented by Dr. John Huffman at Clemson University in 1995 during medical research on the effects of cannabinoids on the brain. He found no medical benefits -- only negative side effects. Unfortunately, marijuana users reproduced the recipe, creating a legal alternative to marijuana.

Although the company manufacturing K2 is unknown, it is legally available for purchase in the U.S. by anyone, including minors.

In late 2008, herbal incense-type products that were being shipped from Europe to the U.S. were found to contain traces of another potent psychoactive chemical known as HU-210. It is classified as a Schedule I controlled substance because it is a derivative of THC with a similar chemical structure and pharmacological activity. HU-210 was also developed for experimental purposes and can be from 100 to 800 times as potent as THC.

In 2009, Germany banned the sale of Spice because tests revealed that it contained JWH-018 and yet another potent chemical, CP-47 497, developed by a drug company in the 1980s for research purposes. It produces effects similar to THC.

K2 can cause increased heart rate, loss of consciousness, paranoia, hallucinations and psychotic episodes.

Let's face it: Anytime you consume an uncontrolled or unregulated drug or a drug with unknown effects, you are taking a risk. Products like K2 are not made in a controlled environment, and those who use it are playing Russian roulette.

[first mate]

thanks for all the info ...I think I'll just pass on the K2,I was also informed it was on the senate floor to make the stuff illegal.

[drtarzanmd]

UPDATE:

 

Health Dept. says marijuana substitute is dangerous

 

TRAVERSE CITY -- UPDATE: June 22 -

The marijuana substitute called K2 or Spice is

dangerous according to the Grand Traverse

County Health Department.

The department is now issuing a warning about it.

According to a release sent out Tuesday from the

health department, 6 individuals have gone to the

Munson emergency room because of severe reactions

in less than 2 weeks. They are now calling K2 a

"real public health concern."

 

ORIGINAL STORY: June 18 - A Northern Michigan mother

has a warning for other parents. There is a new way

to get high growing in popularity among teens and

young adults.

 

15-year old John Bosch found his friend unconscious,

on the ground at Hannah Park in Traverse City.

 

Bosch says, "I was pretty freaked out.

It's not everyday you see your friend passed

out in the woods."

 

Bosch called 911, and when his friend woke up

several hours later at Munson Medical Center he

told doctors he had smoked a substance called Spice.

 

Spice or K2 looks like cooking herbs or potpourri.

It’s supposed to be used as incense but when

smoked gives off similar effects that marijuana does.

Since Spice doesn’t show up on drug tests and is

legal to buy, authorities say young people are

eager to try it.

 

Detective Kipp Belcher with the Traverse Narcotics Teams says,

"It's an unstable type of substance to consume so

I highly recommend that people don't dabble with it at all."

 

The Traverse Narcotics Team knows who’s selling it

around town. In fact 7&4 News was able to buy Spice

at a downtown Traverse City store less than a mile

away from where the teen passed out. The substance is

mostly sold in specialty stores, hookah lounges,

and online. Recently the authorities sent a large

amount to the Grayling Crime lab to learn more about it.

 

Detective Belcher says, “We have to take a look,

the Feds have to look, it takes time to assess

whether it’s dangerous enough to meet the criteria

to be a considered a controlled substance."

 

While John Bosch’s mother is proud of the way her

son got his friend to the hospital, now she is worried

that this drug is out there for young people to consume.

 

Erin Bosch says, "The effects spice can have, to me

that is not something that should be able to buy in stores."

 

But for now it is legal for those over 18 years old

leaving authorities with their hands tied.

 

Detective Belcher says, "Not much we can do except

pay attention and let people know it’s not safe to consume."

 

Ms. Bosch says, "It’s out there and if your teen

has a friend over 18 they can go into a store and

buy it and provide it for your children."

 

While scientists haven’t determined long term

effects of K2, or Spice, the short term side

effects include hallucinations, vomiting, and

headaches. The synthetic marijuana is banned in

some states and cities.

 

copy and paste ; http://www.upnorthlive.com/news/story.aspx?id=472478

[Chico Dog Farms]

I have tried this, it does the job if your just looking to feal stoned, however from a medicine stand pointe should never be substituted