Iran Not Developing Nukes

[Budz-4-U]

Fine, we will all vote for Ron Paul. Maybe Ron Paul is right. What we have been doing doesn't seem to work.

[Budz-4-U]

I'm not on either side of that divide. I have no religious affiliations. What do I suggest? Not imposing puppet dictators like the Shah for a start. Not giving aid to the treacherous Israel. Not trumping up charges of "Weapons of Mass Destruction" as seen in Iraq. Need more or is that enough to chew on?

 

 

Not being on either side of the divide doesn't make the divide go away. It has always been there. It is real. And because it is real, and has existed for thousands of years, makes it all that more complicated. Much more complicated then making it sound like the whole thing is about what was done in our lifetimes. That is just part of the ongoing battle, a very small part, at best.

[Budz-4-U]

I'm for a cease fire. Better tell the car bombers to cease operations.

[Northern Lab]

Not being on either side of the divide doesn't make the divide go away. It has always been there. It is real. And because it is real, and has existed for thousands of years, makes it all that more complicated. Much more complicated then making it sound like the whole thing is about what was done in our lifetimes. That is just part of the ongoing battle, a very small part, at best.

 

So, are you saying that Iran would use a nuke on if they got one? What about the Vatican?

[Northern Lab]

I'm for a cease fire. Better tell the car bombers to cease operations.

 

What about motorcycle bombers?

 

TEHRAN, Iran – Two assailants on a motorcycle attached magnetic bombs to the car of an Iranian university professor working at a key nuclear facility, killing him and another person Wednesday, state TV reported. The slayings suggest a widening covert effort to set back Iran's atomic program.

 

The attack in Tehran bore a strong resemblance to earlier killings of scientists working on the Iranian nuclear program. It is certain to amplify authorities' claims of clandestine operations by Western powers and their allies to halt Iran's nuclear advances.

 

The bomb killed Mostafa Ahmadi Roshan, a chemistry expert and a director of the Natanz uranium enrichment facility in central Iran, state TV reported. Natanz is Iran's main enrichment site, but officials claimed earlier this week that they are expanding some operations to an underground site south of Tehran with more advanced equipment.

 

The U.S. and its allies are pressuring Iran to halt uranium enrichment, a key element of the nuclear program that the West suspects is aimed at producing atomic weapons. Uranium enriched to low levels can be used as nuclear fuel but at higher levels, it can be used as material for a nuclear warhead.

 

Iran denies it is trying to make nuclear weapons, saying its program is for peaceful purposes only and is geared toward generating electricity and producing medical radioisotopes to treat cancer patients.

 

Iran has claimed that Israel's Mossad, the CIA and Britain's spy agency are engaged in an underground "terrorism" campaign against nuclear-related targets, including at least three slayings since early 2010 and the release of a malicious computer virus known at Stuxnet in 2010 that Iran says disrupted controls of some centrifuges -- a key component in nuclear fuel production. Both countries have denied the Iranian accusations.

 

Israeli officials have hinted about covert campaigns against Iran without directly admitting involvement.

 

On Tuesday, Israeli military chief Lt. Gen. Benny Gantz was quoted as telling a parliamentary panel that 2012 would be a "critical year" for Iran -- in part because of "things that happen to it unnaturally."

 

"Many bad things have been happening to Iran in the recent period," added Mickey Segal, a former director of the Israeli military's Iranian intelligence department. "Iran is in a situation where pressure on it is mounting, and the latest assassination joins the pressure that the Iranian regime is facing."

 

Safar Ali Baratloo, a senior security official, was quoted by Fars as saying the attack was the work of Israelis.

 

"The magnetic bomb is of the same types already used to assassinate our scientists," he said.

 

Roshan, 32, was inside the Iranian-assembled Peugeot 405 car together with two others when the bomb exploded near Gol Nabi Street in north Tehran, Fars reported. It said the person accompanying Roshan died later of injuries at a hospital.

 

The state news agency IRNA said an 85-year old passer-by was injured in the blast.

 

Fars described the explosion as a "terrorist attack" targeting Roshan, a graduate of the prestigious Sharif University of Technology in Tehran.

 

Roshan was a chemistry expert who was involved in building polymeric layers for gas separation, which is the use of various membranes to isolate gases. He was also deputy director of Natanz uranium enrichment plant, in central Iran, for commercial affairs. According to conservative news website mashreghnews.ir, Roshan was in charge of purchasing and supplying equipment for the facility.

 

Natanz is the centerpiece of Iran's efforts to make its own nuclear fuel. But Iran said earlier this week it was expanding some operations to a bunker-like site south of Tehran protected under 300 feet of rock. The existence of the Fordo facility has been known for more than two years, but some Western officials fear the opening of the labs could be another step toward developing nuclear arms.

 

Iran also had held or announced a series of war games since December that included threats to close the Gulf's vital Strait of Hormuz -- the passageway for about one-sixth of the world's oil -- in retaliation for stronger U.S.-led sanctions.

 

"Assassinations, military threats and political pressures ... The enemy insists on the tactic of creating fear to stop Iran's peaceful nuclear activities," Fars quoted lawmaker Javad Jahangirzadeh as saying in reaction to the blast.

 

A similar bomb explosion exactly two years ago -- Jan. 12, 2010 -- killed Tehran University professor Masoud Ali Mohammadi, a senior physics professor. He was killed when a bomb-rigged motorcycle exploded near his car as he was about to leave for work.

 

The semiofficial Mehr news agency said that Roshan had planned to attend a memorial ceremony later Wednesday for the slain professor.

 

In November 2010, a pair of back-to-back bomb attacks in different parts of the capital killed another nuclear scientist and wounded one more.

 

The slain scientist, Majid Shahriari, was a member of the nuclear engineering faculty at Shahid Beheshti University in Tehran and cooperated with the Atomic Energy Organization of Iran. The wounded scientist, Fereidoun Abbasi, was almost immediately appointed head of Iran's atomic agency.

 

And in July 2011, motorcycle-riding gunmen killed Darioush Rezaeinejad, an electronics student. Other reports identified him as a scientist involved in suspected Iranian attempts to make nuclear weapons.

 

Rezaeinejad allegedly participated in developing high-voltage switches, a key component in setting off the explosions needed to trigger a nuclear warhead.

 

The United States and some allies say Iran is trying to develop nuclear weapons technology. Iran denies the allegations, saying that its program is intended for energy and medical research.

 

The latest blast is certain to bring fresh charges by Iran that the U.S. and allies are waging a clandestine campaign of bloodshed and sabotage in attempts to set back Iran's nuclear efforts.

 

"Instead of actually fighting a conventional war, Western powers and their allies appear to be relying on covert war tactics to try to delay and degrade Iran's nuclear advancement," said Theodore Karasik, a security expert at the Dubai-based Institute for Near East and Gulf Military Analysis.

 

He said the use of magnetic bombs bears the hallmarks of covert operations.

 

"It's a very common way to eliminate someone," he added. "It's clean, easy and efficient."

 

Meir Javedanfar, an Iranian-born analyst based in Israel, said Iran's leadership is being pushed toward a decision on whether to "retaliate or compromise" as sanctions squeeze the economy and undercut the value of the Iranian rial.

 

"From the international consensus that we can see against Iran, even if (Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei) does retaliate, it's not very likely that the pressure -- sanctions and isolation -- would ease," he said. "He's in a tight spot."

 

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/11/report-bomb-kills-iran-university-professor/

[MightyMightyMezz]

Not being on either side of the divide doesn't make the divide go away. It has always been there. It is real. And because it is real, and has existed for thousands of years, makes it all that more complicated. Much more complicated then making it sound like the whole thing is about what was done in our lifetimes. That is just part of the ongoing battle, a very small part, at best.

 

To me it is the human beings everywhere who want peace versus the ones who make war. That is the true challenge of our time and it's a lot bigger than the history of one area of the globe.

[man of steel]

What about motorcycle bombers?

 

 

 

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/01/11/report-bomb-kills-iran-university-professor/

Said Newt Gingrich in a debate,Thats what we need to do.

[Budz-4-U]

I think the whole world needs to eat a brownie !!

[TheBeagle]

and ride on ponies!

[GanjaWarrior]

And, I noticed you avoided the truth:

 

"Islam extremists have had Jews and Christians as their sworn enemies for THOUSANDS of years.

 

We didn't start this in 1953, as thousands of years ago was prior to 1953.

 

The United States didn't start this, as 1776 was much later than thousands of years ago.

 

This is an epic battle, of Biblical proportions. Jews/Christians versus non-Christians, in this case, Islam.

 

Short of all of us converting to Islam, they would like us, the Infidels, slaughtered. We, the Christians/Jews, are the evil ones. We are not Islam, that makes us evil, and we must die."

 

I see you fabricate the truth.... No we havent been sworn enemies for thousands of years. jews and christians have been enemies for just as long. remember they killed ur leader....u may not think so but it was cause to slaughter jews all over the world in the name of that jewish guy u Christians worship. This is not an epic battle, it is just like the bull bunny muffin crusades, some dumb christains will be talked into it by their greedy church. No they dont want to kill us all, nor do we need to convert.....its called fear mongering and you sound like a faux news reporter.

 

I would like to take this time to remind you in america we have religious freedom, this isnt the freedom to be some variation of christian. Theres no cause to have our nation caught up in this bigoted fear mongering.....If you fear them so much, or if you really think ur some holy warrior from god go back ur bags n move to the sand box and see how they feel about it.

I fear no man nor any god, happy to have some evil Muslim live next door to me....probably safer around my kid than alternative.

[mrd]

Ask the people who were hanged in Iran for being Bahai just how tolerant Iran is. Also lets not forget that SEVEN Million people died in warfare between Iraq and Iran. You would have thought that talking to each other might have been a better approach to ironing out differences. The west had no problem in letting those two slaughter each other.

 

Also there no one is really mentioning that Iran is the one that does not want full inspections as far as their atomic installations go. Since countries can have atomic research that does not include making weapons grade uranium it just smells wrong. (please no comments on the USA's hypocrisy I know about that too.

[MightyMightyMezz]

Ask the people who were hanged in Iran for being Bahai just how tolerant Iran is. Also lets not forget that SEVEN Million people died in warfare between Iraq and Iran. You would have thought that talking to each other might have been a better approach to ironing out differences. The west had no problem in letting those two slaughter each other.

 

Also there no one is really mentioning that Iran is the one that does not want full inspections as far as their atomic installations go. Since countries can have atomic research that does not include making weapons grade uranium it just smells wrong. (please no comments on the USA's hypocrisy I know about that too.

 

Iran denies hanging the Baha'i man so I don't know if they did or didn't. The Baha'i faith is based in Israel and no doubt is infiltrated by the Mossad so some of the reported persecution may be for legitimate reasons i.e. some of them could be spies. Regarding tolerance Khomeini instituted protections for Christians, Jews and Zoroastrians.

 

From what I read Iran has allowed all but the strictest inspections. It might not smell good but I don't think you take a swing at your neighbor because he is a little odorific. Israel is a much bigger danger to our country than Iran has ever been (again see the USS Liberty.) I say withdraw support from Israel. Maybe they will learn how to behave. They way Israel treats the Palestinian people is beyond vile. It must be one of the worst areas of ongoing human abuse in the world. All this but we give them everything including a nuclear arsenal. How does this happen?

 

Again the entire course of political history of Iran was permanently altered in the '53 coup which was at least partly carried out by the US. All bets are off after something like that, you know what I mean? Personally I can't hear anything about this kind of stuff without wondering how many layers does this onion have?

[TheBeagle]

Ask the people who were hanged in Iran for being Bahai just how tolerant Iran is. Also lets not forget that SEVEN Million people died in warfare between Iraq and Iran. You would have thought that talking to each other might have been a better approach to ironing out differences. The west had no problem in letting those two slaughter each other.

 

Also there no one is really mentioning that Iran is the one that does not want full inspections as far as their atomic installations go. Since countries can have atomic research that does not include making weapons grade uranium it just smells wrong. (please no comments on the USA's hypocrisy I know about that too.

 

 

 

this is the way i see it If they dont want full inspections..then i don't blame them (the US has no right to inspect ANYTHING that is not ours) now...if some one said here ol grand USA we need to inspect your nukes........yea that's not gonna happen...same principle the USA needs to keep their asses out of other countries and stop tryin to police the world IT's not gonna happen, and if it does it will be WW3 simple as that ,Im not afraid of Iran Iraq Afgan I careless what they do what they have it's not my biz so w/e im not gonna give to defecates about it , and thats what the govrnt needs to do step the hell off and help this dam country

[TheBeagle]

just like Osama bim laden,,,,,1st osama is a USA CIA ...then omg terrorist...dead lmfao give me a dam break

[solabeirtan]

The problem comes when you can't afford to live next door to a muslim, you got to stay back in the getto. For all your prowess in understanding the meaning of religion, the only Religion in america that matters is capitalism. We worship at the doors of the Fed Reserve and Wall Street.

 

It may help to understand the relationships if you put them in some form of perspective.

 

Religion [at least].......50,000 years.

 

Oil..............................4,000 years, Gas 150 years

 

Colonial Religion..........400 years

.. [not Catholicism]

 

Capitalism.....................390 years

 

Israel...............................90 years