Adrian Under Attack - We Need Help!

[thanks2]

 

To thanks2 . I don't think your hypothetical input is relevant to this at all. Sorry, but If your going to go and buy your patients medicine at a dispensary (or on the street) and deliver it to them, then you, your wife, nor your home would be considered a "Facility" your (hypothetical situation)is not going to be affected by this law. If you have no place to buy it you would have to grow it, or find them a caregiver that can meet there needs. I still see no reason for a husband and wife to both be caregivers living in the same home when there are only two patients. I doubt the state would either, nor a judge. If this was the deal in your situation it would not be a problem unless you had two separate grows going and had max number of plants in each. Again this is about dispensaries not home growers, patients or caregivers.

 

Fair enough. I get it. Since you believe no patient or caregiver needs a large grow and you believe that large grows are a cover up for criminal activity and since you can not foresee a reason why any two care givers should live in the same location, bring on the government regulation.

 

We just differ in opinion.

 

I believe that I do not have the time or God like intelligence to foresee every circumstance that may arise where two caregivers may be living together. Combined with the belief that we should not prohibit the law abiding because some hypothetical or occasional person may abuse a law.

 

I also believe, you can not "cover" criminal activity. If they are selling on the streets, that is the crime and our law addresses this situation by removing all protection of the law and adding more penalties.

 

Arrest those who beat their wife and kids, do not ban marriage and procreation.

 

But hey, that is my opinion and it is no more valid than yours.

Edited January 21, 2011 by thanks2

[Focus007]

I am not sure if this will help but here it is....

 

ARTICLE III

ZONING DISTRICTS AND MAP

3.0 DISTRICTS ESTABLISHED: For the purpose of this Ordinance, the City

of Adrian is hereby divided into the following districts:

 

Residential Districts

R-1 One-Family Residential District

R-2 One-Family Residential District

R-3 One-Family Residential District

R-4 One-Family Residential District

RT Two-Family Residential District

RM-1 Multiple-Family Residential District (Low Rise)

RM-2 Multiple-Family Residential District (High Rise)

RM-H Residential Mobile Home Park

AHD Adrian Historic District

Non-Residential Districts

PUD Planned Unit Development District

OS-1 Office Service District

R-O Residential Office District

 

B-1 Local Business District

B-2 Community Business District

B-3 Central Business District

B-4 Shopping Center District

WH Warehouse and Wholesale District

ERO Education, Research and Office District

E1 Exclusive Industrial District

I-1 Light Industrial District

I-2 General Industrial District

P-1 Vehicular Parking District

OZD Overlay Zoning Districts

FHA Flood Hazard Area Zone

3.1 DISTRICT BOUNDARIES AND INCLUSION OF THE ZONING MAP BY

REFERENCE

The boundaries of these districts are hereby established as shown on the

Zoning Map, City of Adrian Zoning Ordinance, which accompanies this

ordinance, and which map with all notations, references, and other

information shown thereon shall be as much a part of this ordinance as if

fully described herein.

III-1

3.2 DISTRICT BOUNDARIES INTERPRETED

Where uncertainty exists with respect to the boundaries of the various

districts as shown on the Zoning Map, the following rules shall apply:

1. Boundaries indicated as approximately following center lines of

streets, highways, or alleys, shall be construed to follow such

center lines.

2. Boundaries indicated as approximately following platted lot lines

shall be construed as following such lot lines.

3. Boundaries indicated as approximately following city limits shall be

construed as following city limits.

4. Boundaries indicated as following railroad lines shall be construed

to be the midway between the main tracks.

5. Boundaries indicated as following shore lines shall be construed to

follow such shore lines, and in the event of change in the shore line

shall be construed as moving with the actual shore line; boundaries

indicated as approximately following the center line of streams,

rivers, canals, lakes, or other bodies of water shall be construed to

following such center lines.

6. Boundaries indicated as parallel to or extensions of features

indicated in subsections 1 through 5 above shall be so construed.

Distances not specifically indicated on the official Zoning Map shall

be determined by the scale of the map.

7. Where physical or natural features existing on the ground are at

variance with those shown on the official Zoning Map, or in other

circumstances not covered by subsections 1 through 6 above, the

Board of Appeals shall interpret the district boundaries.

3.3 ZONING OF ANNEXED AREAS

Whenever any area is annexed to the City of Adrian, it shall immediately

upon such annexation, be automatically classified as an R-1 District until a

Zoning Map for said area has been adopted by the City Commission. The

Planning Commission shall recommend the appropriate zoning districts for

such area within one year after the area is annexed.

III-2

Section 3.3 amended per Ordinance No. 03-12, effective date 6/17/03

3.4 ZONING OF VACATED AREAS

Whenever any street, alley or other public way, within the City of Adrian

shall be vacated, such street, alley or other public way or portion thereof,

shall automatically be classified in the same Zone District as the property

to which it attaches.

3.5 DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS

All buildings and uses in any district shall conform to the requirements of

the Schedule of Regulations.

III-

Edited January 21, 2011 by Focus007

[Clear and Unambiguous]

I am not sure if this will help but here it is....

 

ARTICLE III

ZONING DISTRICTS AND MAP

3.0 DISTRICTS ESTABLISHED: For the purpose of this Ordinance, the City

of Adrian is hereby divided into the following districts:

 

Residential Districts

R-1 One-Family Residential District

R-2 One-Family Residential District

R-3 One-Family Residential District

R-4 One-Family Residential District

RT Two-Family Residential District

RM-1 Multiple-Family Residential District (Low Rise)

RM-2 Multiple-Family Residential District (High Rise)

RM-H Residential Mobile Home Park

AHD Adrian Historic District

Non-Residential Districts

PUD Planned Unit Development District

OS-1 Office Service District

R-O Residential Office District

 

B-1 Local Business District

B-2 Community Business District

B-3 Central Business District

B-4 Shopping Center District

WH Warehouse and Wholesale District

ERO Education, Research and Office District

E1 Exclusive Industrial District

I-1 Light Industrial District

I-2 General Industrial District

P-1 Vehicular Parking District

OZD Overlay Zoning Districts

FHA Flood Hazard Area Zone

3.1 DISTRICT BOUNDARIES AND INCLUSION OF THE ZONING MAP BY

REFERENCE

The boundaries of these districts are hereby established as shown on the

Zoning Map, City of Adrian Zoning Ordinance, which accompanies this

ordinance, and which map with all notations, references, and other

information shown thereon shall be as much a part of this ordinance as if

fully described herein.

III-1

3.2 DISTRICT BOUNDARIES INTERPRETED

Where uncertainty exists with respect to the boundaries of the various

districts as shown on the Zoning Map, the following rules shall apply:

1. Boundaries indicated as approximately following center lines of

streets, highways, or alleys, shall be construed to follow such

center lines.

2. Boundaries indicated as approximately following platted lot lines

shall be construed as following such lot lines.

3. Boundaries indicated as approximately following city limits shall be

construed as following city limits.

4. Boundaries indicated as following railroad lines shall be construed

to be the midway between the main tracks.

5. Boundaries indicated as following shore lines shall be construed to

follow such shore lines, and in the event of change in the shore line

shall be construed as moving with the actual shore line; boundaries

indicated as approximately following the center line of streams,

rivers, canals, lakes, or other bodies of water shall be construed to

following such center lines.

6. Boundaries indicated as parallel to or extensions of features

indicated in subsections 1 through 5 above shall be so construed.

Distances not specifically indicated on the official Zoning Map shall

be determined by the scale of the map.

7. Where physical or natural features existing on the ground are at

variance with those shown on the official Zoning Map, or in other

circumstances not covered by subsections 1 through 6 above, the

Board of Appeals shall interpret the district boundaries.

3.3 ZONING OF ANNEXED AREAS

Whenever any area is annexed to the City of Adrian, it shall immediately

upon such annexation, be automatically classified as an R-1 District until a

Zoning Map for said area has been adopted by the City Commission. The

Planning Commission shall recommend the appropriate zoning districts for

such area within one year after the area is annexed.

III-2

Section 3.3 amended per Ordinance No. 03-12, effective date 6/17/03

3.4 ZONING OF VACATED AREAS

Whenever any street, alley or other public way, within the City of Adrian

shall be vacated, such street, alley or other public way or portion thereof,

shall automatically be classified in the same Zone District as the property

to which it attaches.

3.5 DISTRICT REQUIREMENTS

All buildings and uses in any district shall conform to the requirements of

the Schedule of Regulations.

III-

 

No, that does not help.

 

We need to see the PROPOSED MMJ ORDINANCE. I would advise that you get that, readi it, and perhaps even post it here for feedback.

 

Never walk into a meeting to complian unless you know EXACTLTY what they are proposing. You may not want to complain once you understand it. You might even want to walk in there and thank them for doing thier jobs, rather than hiding from medical marijuana.

 

Being prepared for a fight is good, but don't ever assume there is going to be a fight. Maybe they want your advice.

[Captain Obvious]

if you and your wife are patients than that still only adds up to 4 why would two people living in the same home need to be 2 separate care givers ? this doesn't add up or make any logical sense. I think there trying to stop people from having 72+72 plants in the same home. if you were to do this the feds would have a field day with you anyway.

 

 

Read the MM act and you may understand.

 

2 patients and One person is a caregiver = 24 plants and 7.5 oz's of usable product.

 

2 patients and Two caregivers = 24 plants and 10 oz's of usable product.

 

Is it starting to make a little more Logical Sense ?

[Glacier Hills]

Captain obvious LOL. Do you really think I would be saying anything at all here if I hadn't read the act? (I know it word for word.) You must have missed, or misread a few posts in this discussion. Your math although correct has nothing to do with any of my posts. Do you not see the period between the word sense and I? the 72+72 is in a separate sentence and had nothing to do with 2+2 or 1+1. I was and am trying to say that this proposal is aimed at stopping dispensaries and people from growing 144 plants and/or co-op grows. I'm not trying to attack any one, only to shine some light on it for people that may not be interpreting it correctly.

I have scoured the Adrian city government website and cannot find any mention of the proposal, all the news stories say the same thing; "facility," not more than one care givers, not more than 5 patients.

Edited January 21, 2011 by Glacier Hills

[Focus007]

The commission will have a public hearing on the proposed ordinance Feb. 1, then could vote to recommend it to the city commission. The city commission would have to approve the ordinance for it to become law.

 

As you can see that is the reason for the meeting. I do not believe they have released a copy as of yet. I am not sure. However if you have a better way of getting the information then feel free to put your self out. I am sure that on Tuesdays meeting there will plenty of copy's to go around. If anything they will extend the moratorium for an additional 6 months just like other community in the state.

[michigankris]

Hey everyone - Sorry about posting this and not coming back - no internet at home and little to no extra money for gas to get to the library to update......

 

Adrian is attacking their clubs that dispense meds. I think this is wrong - and even if you don't agree with this type of club/dispensary set up - we all need a safe, reliable place to get our meds between our grows or our caregiver's grows. Most people can keep a continuous supply but even in start up - their are times of need.

 

I don't want people having to find their meds in an unsafe place that doesn't maintain any means for quality or cost control.

 

I think Adrian is close to stepping on our rights where medical marijuana is concerned. Just imagine if they could somehow monitor all the "pills" out there - - who's working on them - driving on them - watching children on them - it would make the world's head spin......

 

I farm within my legal rights as a medical patient - I value my family and my freedom. I don't like how just a select few decides for all of us. Doesn't seem fair - - I know that the planning commission is hand picked by the mayor - when is that guy up for re-election?? Might make a difference for him.

 

So...please....take a minute and send an email - fax - make a phone call or write a letter letting Adrian know that we need more education regarding medical marijuana and safe, reliable, quality places to obtain our medicine between our legal grows.

 

Hope to see you all in Adrian on February 1st!

[lawyercaregiver]

I think this is a reasonable use of the local police power.

 

I don't support the ordinance but believe the city is well within their rights to enact it. Just IMHO.

[bswizzle85]

People! Dispensaries are not the problem...all of these ordinances and restrictions are forcing us to operate on the black market when the law was passed by 63%!!! These ordinances are putting money back into hands of ORGANIZED CRIME!!! Cry out to these zoning commissions they THEY are supporting organized crime by slapping illegal (municipal regulation is always preempted by state law if you are operating with the scope, so no fear. See M.C.L. 117.36 of the Home Rules Act and Art. VII sec. 22 of the Michigan Constitution of 1963) ordinances on us instead of legalizing and regulating so that very sick people can aquire their medicine in a safe way. They are making this exactly like prohibition and prohibition did absolutely nothing except make a black market for crime TO BE COMMITTED. It also corrupted the police force by them taking bribes to allow certain manufacturers and speakeasies to remain open! There will always be people who want to turn a buck...that's free market, that's capitalism...there are always going to be people who feel they can benefit from breaking the law...

This is a very good angle to go by because putting money back into the hands of organized crime is a violation of their oath of office and not in the best interest of the city whatsoever...

[abe supercro]

What happened in Tecumseh?

[Celliach]

People! Dispensaries are not the problem...all of these ordinances and restrictions are forcing us to operate on the black market when the law was passed by 63%!!! These ordinances are putting money back into hands of ORGANIZED CRIME!!! Cry out to these zoning commissions they THEY are supporting organized crime by slapping illegal (municipal regulation is always preempted by state law if you are operating with the scope, so no fear. See M.C.L. 117.36 of the Home Rules Act and Art. VII sec. 22 of the Michigan Constitution of 1963) ordinances on us instead of legalizing and regulating so that very sick people can aquire their medicine in a safe way. They are making this exactly like prohibition and prohibition did absolutely nothing except make a black market for crime TO BE COMMITTED. It also corrupted the police force by them taking bribes to allow certain manufacturers and speakeasies to remain open! There will always be people who want to turn a buck...that's free market, that's capitalism...there are always going to be people who feel they can benefit from breaking the law...

This is a very good angle to go by because putting money back into the hands of organized crime is a violation of their oath of office and not in the best interest of the city whatsoever...

 

Why are you forced to operate in the black market instead of acquiring a reputable caregiver?

[phaquetoo]

disspensarrys and farm markets or co-ops are not written in the law! period,

 

I truly dont see what is so hard to beleive, Adrian may not want the so called clubs on their main street, at least they are trying to find a place for them their,(even though they are not legal) becareful what you wish for! You may wind up with bloomfeild hills ordinances!

 

Loose Lips Sink Ships!

 

Peace

Jim