Prospecting Mmma Patient In The Lake Orion Area Seeking Advice

[tricharious]

Hi,

 

I'm a new member here, I've ran across it on the internet before but never registered. As of late my need for non-addictive pain management treatment options has become a necessity. I suffer from undiagnosed back pain (my mother had degenerative disc disease, bulging discs and osteoarthritis, it runs in the family) and recurring intermittent chronic pain in my left knee from extensive surgery when I was 14 years old (10 years ago). I contracted necrotizing faciitis in Florida and had to have emergency excavation done on the infected tissues or else I would have lost my leg (or died they said). As an adolescent I never let the surgery hinder my aggressive sports (skateboarding) or my abilities to run, jump, and play. However, as a young adult the trauma is catching up to me and I often times find my knee very stiff, sore and in pain. Furthermore, my other knee has it's bad days as well.

 

I live in Lake Orion, Mi and am seriously considering applying for my MMMA card. The biggest obstacle that I face is not being insured. Since I'm uninsured I've never been too quick to go to the doctors office just to establish my medical records. I'm not interested in treating my pain with opiates, period. They are addictive physically and have a high incidence of abuse, also expensive to boot.

 

My primary question is in regards to how I should go about getting certified? Are there ways I can get my case validated without going to the doctors several times beforehand and paying a bunch of money for visits on top of the certification fee? Does anyone have suggestions as to where in Oakland county (or surrounding area) I can go to get my case reviewed and approved in one visit? Providing the proof of my surgery will not be an issue as it should be contained in my medical records. Will the extensive knee surgery I had when I was 14 be enough to validate my claim of chronic pain and in turn qualify me for eligibility? I'm surprised that I didn't come home with a cane for life and everytime I tell a health professional about my story (contracting necrotizing fasciitis) they are beweildered since the incidence of that infection is very rare (but very deadly). To me, it seems obvious that there could be chronic pain issues 10 years later. Espcially since I lead an active lifestyle and have never let the surgery hinder my abilities.

 

As a secondary question I was curious if, once approved, it would be acceptable to use marijuana to treat my depression and anxiety issues? Thank you so much.

 

Sincere thanks,

 

Brandon

[David1946]

b_lucky "Since I'm uninsured I've never been too quick to go to the doctors office just to establish my medical records"

 

If you have had all those hospitalizations and surgeries you have medical records showing medical history.

[tricharious]

i just thought that i had to have at least three recent visits or something in the last three years. and I have no visits pertaining to my condition outside of the immediate treatment needed for recovery. are you implying that i could possibly get approved solely on the basis of a surgery i had 10 years ago even though i have no further medical documents? its not like i've been in and out of the hospitals. 10 years ago I had surgery, my knee has been acting up ever since but i never went to a doctor and addressed it. just wrote it off as typical residual pain from deep tissue excavation and perhaps muscular scarification. thank you for your insight. I have one surgery and no return visits pertaining to recurring pain at the site of said surgery.

[Wild Bill]

My primary question is in regards to how I should go about getting certified? Are there ways I can get my case validated without going to the doctors several times beforehand and paying a bunch of money for visits on top of the certification fee? Does anyone have suggestions as to where in Oakland county (or surrounding area) I can go to get my case reviewed and approved in one visit? Providing the proof of my surgery will not be an issue as it should be contained in my medical records.

 

If you have supporting medical records for your surgery it would be in your best interest to go to a doctor to show that you still have pain from the injury. It might cost you a few bucks but there are plenty of walk-in clinics that have reasonable rates.

 

Most cannabis friendly doctors will certify you in one visit if you have medical records. Do some research and find someone reputable, stay away from shady doctors.

 

Any money you pay will be insignificant compared to your legal fees if Bill Shuette and Sheriff Bouchard decide that you don't have a "bona fide" relationship with a doctor.

 

As a secondary question I was curious if, once approved, it would be acceptable to use marijuana to treat my depression and anxiety issues? Thank you so much.

 

Once you approved you can use Cannabis to treat any ailment that you find it will provide relief for. You might need to try different strains and modes of ingestion to find what works for your particular problem.

 

It is important that patients follow the letter of the law because our "law enforcement community" does not. CYA!

 

There is plenty of information available on this site, just browse around and you will probably find what you need to know.

 

(I would suggest paying particular attention to those who have had legal problems so you know how the government is trying to circumvent the will of the majority. It could happen to you!)

 

Good luck!

[tricharious]

But bill I'm kind of scared. I don't feel like being persecuted for something im trying to do legitimately. How do i keep Mr. Bouchard satisfied that I have a so-called "bona fide" relationship with a doctor. I'm poor and can barely afford the certification let alone to make multiple visits to a doctor for the sole purpose of strengthening my case. Is this something I'm just going to have to get over? My hope was to pay the certification fee and be on my way, not to pay extra hundreds of dollars in doctors visits just so the local enforcement doesn't come barking up my tree for the wrong reasons. Is it legal to grow your own plants in Oakland county?

[tricharious]

And could you usher me in the right direction to find legitimate medical professionals in my area who are not "shady" I have no clue where to start or how to go about this process. normally im good using at internet resources but this is a world still foreign to me and I dont even know how i could start finding "legitimate" docs.

[The Digital Nomad]

The bonafide relationship thing BS is opinioned on - is not law. The MMMact says any qualified doctor can make the recommendation. The reason this is so stupid - is what about all those doctors in emergency rooms and urgent care - that are prescribing drugs to patients they just met too?

 

Oakland county is restrictive, but it depends on your local city ordinance or memoriams. Many of these ordinance or memoriams do not effect patients or CG rights in the home. They restrict business use of buildings or land to cultivate and dispense marijuana on a large scale. Many of these ordinances have the statement - "this ordinance does not restrict or remove any rights to the patient or CG under the MMMAct..."

 

When you see your primary health provider - you simply ask "I need a copy of my "diagnosis and Plan of Care." if you saw a specialist or surgeon - you would ask for a copy of that doctor's "Diagnosis and Plan of care". Never ask "I want a complete copy of all my medical records" - it implies ignorance. If they pressure you why - tell them its for your Social Security. you do not have to explain more.

 

Many patients get the MM card for a certain illness or disability - and find it helped with other illness and disability - not cover under the MMMAct. I use my MM for vertigo more than I do for Chronic pain.

 

You need to find a smart club - where you can see demos, teaching, and talk to people face to face.

 

MOCC meets once a month www.thc4u.com

(list of doctors here)

DN

[tricharious]

thats the thing i dont even have a primary health provider. and it wont let me view the list of doctors, telling me its forbidden.

[Medcnman]

My last 3 visits to a doctor was my MM certification doctor. Im un insured and cnat afford to go see the doc for just a common cold. My MM cert doc also gives me a complete check up at my visits. Physicals are recommended once a year. This all happens when i get my recerts. The doc is very thourough when I go in. I recommended a friend to this cert center. The doc found he was probably within days of having a stroke. Not only did she recommend MM for him, but she also prescribed him blood pressure medication. His blood pressure was thru the roof!!! So for the most part, she has become my regular doctor. My old PCP (primary care physician) wasnt near as thourough and i saw her maybe once a year. Sometimes once every two years. And that was only to get refills on my acid reflux meds. I use prilosec now so the need to see my PCP is no longer necessary. The Digital Nomad is very keen on our current laws as well as what IS law and what is OPINION from BS. Being that your in Oakland County, I would recommend any suggestions that he may have to offer. That is his area of expertise and he is very knowledgable on the law. Good luck to you B! Medcnman.

[tricharious]

how many times did it take for you to get certified medcnman, just the one? and the other two visits were recerts?

[tricharious]

took the first step, having the authorization of release form for the medical records pertaining to my surgery sent to me. Will be specifying that im looking for diagnosis and plan of care (the whole record is 164 pages long!!!). Is there anything else I should request? (the clerk wasn't so sure that the plan of care would be included in the records but she could just be wrong).

[jhaz]

u seem to be fishing for docs that will just give you a referral for money with no records..if u really have the problems you have had just show the papers..if ya dont have them call the hospital and get copies

[HarveyWallbanger]

Comprehensive Famil Healthcare 5710 Bella Rosa Boulevard Suite 200 Clarkston, MI 48348

Phone:

(248) 620-0377

call dr. englemann in clarkston he will work with you and he supports marijuana and gives cards for patients he is the real deal.

 

[tricharious]

u seem to be fishing for docs that will just give you a referral for money with no records..if u really have the problems you have had just show the papers..if ya dont have them call the hospital and get copies

 

 

I don't really appreciate this statement whatsoever. If I was "fishing" for docs I wouldn't be doing it on this website. That's foolhardy. I'm seeking guidance on a tenuous path and trying to network so I can find a legitimate doctor nearby rather than driving hours away to a shady cert clinic. I blatantly stated that I'm getting my medical records released so that I can go through the proper channels. Not sure how you formed this opinion but it's quite wrong.

[The Green Movement]

Hi b lucky, I used to live in lake Orion and I can help. I was blessed to meet a dr who is very compassionate. We just filed our corp with the state. I can get u the help u need. Pm me for further details. Thank god we have this law for all of us who need it.

[tricharious]

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[tricharious]

Hi b lucky, I used to live in lake Orion and I can help. I was blessed to meet a dr who is very compassionate. We just filed our corp with the state. I can get u the help u need. Pm me for further details. Thank god we have this law for all of us who need it.

 

 

I appreciate your enthusiasm to offer help. However, if you are interested in offering information to me that may assist me I encourage you go ahead and send it. It is not my intention to fish out information from people or engage in private the request for information pertaining to local compassionate-care advocators and certificates.

 

Yes, I am seeking any advice that may offer me the luxury of finding a local, appropriate, mindful and legitimate means of acquiring my certification without having to pay ridiculous amounts of money.

 

I have access to all the resources I need in validating my case, medical records are ready for release as soon as I find the office I'm going to be certified through. Once I am 100% certain that I've found the nearest, cheapest, most legal and legitimate D.O. that supports compassionate-care I plan to have my medical records released to them and begin the approval process, then send in my paper work to the state.

 

The only thing I'm lacking is a viable doctor, I'm uninsured and doctors want to get paid for their services. Anyone who has helpful and relevant information pertaining to the cheapest route of certification (strictly relative to my location) please simply pass it along. If you're willing to share then don't be shy.

 

Thank you.

[The Green Movement]

The Green Movement, our office is 586 604 2828. Our doctor does require medical records. If your condition is as you say, he will certify you. I'm offing a hand for help. You asked for a doctor to help your condition. All I'm telling u is we can help. God bless. I hope this helps.

[tricharious]

The Green Movement, our office is 586 604 2828. Our doctor does require medical records. If your condition is as you say, he will certify you. I'm offing a hand for help. You asked for a doctor to help your condition. All I'm telling u is we can help. God bless. I hope this helps.

 

I have records and would most prefer that it be documented with my certification that I have legal medical evidence a pre-existing condition that required intensive intrusive surgery. My knee boasts a scar eight inches in length in varying widths from 1/2" -1/4". There is clearly physical evidence on my body of a surgery but without verification on the specifics of that operation a doctor couldn't be expected to blindly offer marijuana certification as an alternative pain solution. The specifics surrounding my particular surgery and the intensity and extent of the infection - at the time - was great enough to require immediate invasive surgery to clean out and "scrape" the infection from my tissues. This all happened in my knee cap. Ten years ago. I've been blessed with amazing mobility and as an adolescent I never let the darn thing slow me down. As I've gotten older and regained feeling back in some of the tissues, my joint gets sore. I have chronic joint pain throughout my body but that is something I have no diagnosis for, not insured. Though...the particular pain I'm seeking treatment for is localized to my doctored knee, it is joint pain - exacerbated by the normal malaise/aggrivation of an invasive surgery which was performed on a crucial joint system - on the knee.

 

Funding is the issue at hand. I'm currently not enrolled in or receiving any Michigan relief or Michigan aid, however I might be forced to apply for assistance due to financial hardship. In this case, I've heard that there is a voucher of price discount for initial certifications as well as renewal. Anyone interested - who is unaware of this program - can seek further information elsewhere.

 

Any help that I seek is proposed as legitimate and intended fully to be so. In that right, I do not intend on slinking around or cutting corners - speaking towards my distaste in the idea of needing to censor anything I have to say about my quest to exercise my now-"legal" right of applying for a State-of-Michigan-regulated medical marijuana license.

[tricharious]

Currently seeking advice from caring and like-minded people. Live in the Lake Orion area, have all the necessarry paper work to get certified, aware of how much it will cost me from the State, anyone with information on reasonably priced doctors please pass it along.

 

I am only able to afford $50 or so for an office call maybe less. On top of the states cost of certification I am nearly unable to afford this endeavor. Thank you for any advice.

[purklize]

I doubt you need recent records. If it's a permanent condition, then there's no reason for them to be needed. I was diagnosed a long time ago with migraines and fibromyalgia, two things no one ever really gets over, and my doc overlooked my records being a good 5 or 6 years old.

[jhaz]

Currently seeking advice from caring and like-minded people. Live in the Lake Orion area, have all the necessarry paper work to get certified, aware of how much it will cost me from the State, anyone with information on reasonably priced doctors please pass it along.

 

I am only able to afford $50 or so for an office call maybe less. On top of the states cost of certification I am nearly unable to afford this endeavor. Thank you for any advice.

i looked for months for a low cost alternative to renew and i found it for 75 and that was in clio...i dont think ur going to find what your looking for local. any legitamite dr to issue you a card is not going to charge that low of a price..typically there 100-150

[tricharious]

The bonafide relationship thing BS is opinioned on - is not law. The MMMact says any qualified doctor can make the recommendation. The reason this is so stupid - is what about all those doctors in emergency rooms and urgent care - that are prescribing drugs to patients they just met too?

 

Oakland county is restrictive, but it depends on your local city ordinance or memoriams. Many of these ordinance or memoriams do not effect patients or CG rights in the home. They restrict business use of buildings or land to cultivate and dispense marijuana on a large scale. Many of these ordinances have the statement - "this ordinance does not restrict or remove any rights to the patient or CG under the MMMAct..."

 

When you see your primary health provider - you simply ask "I need a copy of my "diagnosis and Plan of Care." if you saw a specialist or surgeon - you would ask for a copy of that doctor's "Diagnosis and Plan of care". Never ask "I want a complete copy of all my medical records" - it implies ignorance. If they pressure you why - tell them its for your Social Security. you do not have to explain more.

 

Many patients get the MM card for a certain illness or disability - and find it helped with other illness and disability - not cover under the MMMAct. I use my MM for vertigo more than I do for Chronic pain.

 

You need to find a smart club - where you can see demos, teaching, and talk to people face to face.

 

MOCC meets once a month www.thc4u.com

(list of doctors here)

DN

 

I think you were referring to local "moratoriums" I've been looking at this statement since you posted it and wondering about that and I don't believe, "memoriam," applies here. Regardless, your input is taken with grave appreciation. Also, I attempted to view this "list of doctors" via the link that you provided to me and was unable to successfully do so.

 

I'm just looking for a suitable doctor to have my records sent to now. Suitable in terms of price. My case is legit and I'm looking for legitimate doctors who aren't money-mongers.