Zorph Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 Here is the basic situation. I am a patient and had 12 plants that I grew until harvest. I hired a caregiver under the following terms: I had already helped him in the past with equipment and assistance growing He was to keep the medicine in a non-usable state until I needed it. If he had another patient that required medicine the donations would go to me to cover the expenses that I put out. He is not returning my calls and it has been over 2 weeks. I can not afford to just let this go. Could you please PM with suggestions on how to handle this. I would assume I could go to small claims court, but obviously that would be the last resort. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdiamond Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 First off shame on them for getting greedy if indeed thats whats happening but i do not think id want to expose my legal status over one crop its just not financially smart or a good idea legally . Is this caregiver from this forum ? If so please don't let him do this to someone else id cut my losses and walk away . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorph Posted July 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I am not able to afford to just let this go. The amount is to much for me to afford. He is not on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdiamond Posted July 24, 2012 Report Share Posted July 24, 2012 I am not able to afford to just let this go. The amount is to much for me to afford. He is not on this forum. No amount of money is worth exposing yourself to law enforcement if you attempt to file a case in court word will spread and if you drive you may be targeted by local law enforcement trying to catch you with THC in your bloodstream id think long and hard about what your thinking of doing karmas a real thing they will get theirs in the end cut your losses and live and learn . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorph Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I understand your point. I already had the police inspect my location so I am not worried about them finding out new information. Normally I would give the same advise that you gave. I am concerned about someone stealing from me. This is a large amount of money for me, I am not wealthy and can't afford this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdiamond Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Understood if you know of anyone connected to this guy inform them that hes screwing you and if you do choose to take civil legal action against him hopefully the courts will not disallow your case to be heard . Good luck . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pergamum362 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 ? I don't understand what happen?u grew your plants then gave all the meds to a Cg u signed up?or he grew your plants and just isn't calling you back now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pergamum362 Posted July 25, 2012 Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 Something seems funny here?lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorph Posted July 25, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2012 I grew the plants and at harvest I had to move. The landlord new that I was growing, but notice the smell. It was getting hot out. So I signed him up as a caregiver and he took the plants at harvest. He gave me some of the meds, but hasn't called me for over 2 weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilo810 Posted July 28, 2012 Report Share Posted July 28, 2012 So you helped him get the equipment to grow your stuff and you want the donations he makes from other patients to go to you because you want your money back on the grow equipment you bought for him to grow for you??? Sound like your being a bit greedy too my friend. But this is a very limited description of your arrangement. remember its his time and expertise too. not just your equipment growing the stuff. maybe hes feeling a bit cheated here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
t-pain Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 go knock on his door without calling. maybe hes on vacation? maybe he already left the state? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pergamum362 Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 lol...i just dont understand why someone would give away plants that are to be harvested.go track him down..but if you signed up someone you barely knew and handed him plants to be harvested..i would not expect to talk to him again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorph Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 (edited) So you helped him get the equipment to grow your stuff and you want the donations he makes from other patients to go to you because you want your money back on the grow equipment you bought for him to grow for you??? Sound like your being a bit greedy too my friend. But this is a very limited description of your arrangement. remember its his time and expertise too. not just your equipment growing the stuff. maybe hes feeling a bit cheated here. He tracked me down a year or so ago to help him with growing. I helped buy some equipment for him in return he would pay me back after he had money. I also gave him my expertise on growing. He never did this. But I thought of him as a friend and knew him 20 years ago pretty well. So after hanging with him for a year I had a bad situation with a landlord. So I had to move quickly. It was harvest time. He claimed his patients would want the medication, plus he was willing to hold the plants in a non usable state for me. This would allow me to use the medication as needed. He could make $50 per ounce for processing to cover his cost and time. I talked to his fiance several times so he knows the situation. Plus after I told them I am talking to a lawyer and checking my legal recourse they unfriended me on facebook. I just asked to please work this out and do not want them in trouble in any way. I just can't afford for them to steal from me. Thanks for the advise everyone has given, including the PM's. I am dealing with a lawyer now. Edited July 29, 2012 by Zorph Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CleanD Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 Just an fyi... any agreement (hopefully by notarized contract) needs to be fully compliant with State law. Otherwise it isn't enforceable in a court of law. The problem you will have is monetizing a product that cannot be sold. The only thing that one can potentially lay claim to is the costs associated with growing... as the mmj laws allow. In actuality, the claim you have to product cannot be directly assigned a value... that would be illegal. He never bore any of the actual costs... he is just holding your end product. It can even be argued that what ur arrangement outlines is an attempt to subvert the law... and that would come to a defining of usable meds... which has no precedent as of yet... some might argue his actions to be illegal esp when actually considering the weight. I'm not a lawyer, but have some insight in dealing with civil litigation in these matters. Only thing a lawyer can do here is take more of your money. This is on you my friend. Sorry to be the one pointing this out. Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingdiamond Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 This is a bad situation how can you prove you gave him anything? No doubt the guy sold or smoked your medicine only chance you have is if he gets scared and agrees to pay but hes probably thinking what i said above prove it . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrd Posted July 29, 2012 Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 He did not pay you back for the equipment and you trusted him further. Whats wrong with this picture? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zorph Posted July 29, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2012 This is a bad situation how can you prove you gave him anything? No doubt the guy sold or smoked your medicine only chance you have is if he gets scared and agrees to pay but hes probably thinking what i said above prove it . I have pictures of the harvest. We were pulled over an inspected by the police when transferring this to him. Also we told the police the arrangement. I have receipts for the equipment. Mr D he had some issues with spider mites and I was being compassionate. It was not smart on my hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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