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Tea Partiers are at the opposite end of the “Human Nature” axis from anarchists, who want to construct an (impossible) law-free utopia based on the assumption that people can change and control themselves in the absence of any authority whatsoever.

 

I think we are demi-gods with virtually unlimited abilities and with the power of imagination we can become wiser and more powerful than ever imagined. I don't need some party telling me human beings must be controlled. I guess that makes me a "Utopian Anarchist." For shame!

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I'm not buying it. The Tea Party strikes me as authoritarian, as much as they like to claim libertarian roots.

 

Hippies are and were anti-authoritarian. The Tea Party is not.

 

It's not as if Pajamas Media is an unbiased source of agenda-free info either. GMAB.

Anti-authoritarianism is opposition to authoritarianism, which is defined as a "political doctrine advocating the principle of absolute rule: absolutism, autocracy, despotism, dictatorship, totalitarianism."[1] Anti-authoritarians usually believe in full equality before the law and strong civil liberties.

 

Sometimes the term is used interchangeably with anarchism, an ideology which rejects the state. Although at other times it refers to other anti-statist philosophies or organisations, from right wing to left wing, including certain elements who repudiate the party form. Sometimes these groups, could be very close philosophically to anarchism, but at other times, they can harbor opposing values.

 

 

Libertarianism is the advocacy of individual liberty, especially freedom of thought and action.[1] Roderick T. Long defines libertarianism as "any political position that advocates a radical redistribution of power [either "total or merely substantial"] from the coercive state to voluntary associations of free individuals", whether "voluntary association" takes the form of the free market or of communal co-operatives.[2] David Boaz writes that, "Libertarianism is the view that each person has the right to live his life in any way he chooses so long as he respects the equal rights of others" and that, "Libertarians defend each person's right to life, liberty, and property--rights that people have naturally, before governments are created."[3]

 

Karl Widerquist writes of left-libertarianism and libertarian socialism as being distinct ideologies also claiming the label "libertarianism".[4] However, many works broadly distinguish right-libertarianism and left-libertarianism as related forms of libertarian philosophy.[5] Also identified is a large faction advocating minarchism, though libertarianism has also long been associated with anarchism (and sometimes is used as a synonym for such), especially outside of the United States.[6] Anarchism remains one of the significant branches of libertarianism.[7]

 

 

Hippies, the hippie subculture was originally a youth movement that arose in the United States during the mid-1960s, swiftly spreading to other countries around the world. The etymology of the term 'hippie' is from hipster, and was initially used to describe beatniks who had moved into New York City's Greenwich Village and San Francisco's Haight-Ashbury district. The early hippie ideology included the countercultural values of the Beat Generation. Some created their own social groups and communities, listened to psychedelic rock, embraced the sexual revolution, and used drugs such as marijuana and LSD to explore alternative states of consciousness.

 

In January 1967, the Human Be-In in Golden Gate Park in San Francisco popularized hippie culture, leading to the legendary Summer of Love on the West Coast of the United States, and the 1969 Woodstock Festival on the East Coast. Hippies in Mexico, known as jipitecas, formed La Onda Chicana and gathered at Avándaro, while in New Zealand, nomadic housetruckers practiced alternative lifestyles and promoted sustainable energy at Nambassa. In the United Kingdom, mobile "peace convoys" of New age travellers made summer pilgrimages to free music festivals at Stonehenge. In Australia hippies gathered at Nimbin for the 1973 Aquarius Festival and the annual Cannabis Law Reform Rally or MardiGrass. In Chile, "Piedra Roja Festival" was held in 1970, and was the major hippie event in that country.

 

Hippie fashions and values had a major effect on culture, influencing popular music, television, film, literature, and the arts. Since the widespread movement in the 1960s, many aspects of hippie culture have been assimilated by mainstream society. The religious and cultural diversity espoused by the hippies has gained widespread acceptance, and Eastern philosophy and spiritual concepts have reached a wide audience. The hippie legacy can be observed in contemporary culture in myriad forms — from health food, to music festivals, to contemporary sexual mores, and even to the cyberspace revolution.[1]

 

 

Origins

The foundation of the hippie movement finds historical precedent as far back as the counterculture of the Ancient Greeks, espoused by philosophers like Diogenes of Sinope and the Cynics also as early forms of hippie culture.[4] Hippie philosophy also credits the religious and spiritual teachings of Jesus Christ, Hillel the Elder, Buddha, Mazdak, St. Francis of Assisi, Henry David Thoreau, and Gandhi.[4]

 

The first signs of what we would call modern "proto-hippies" emerged in fin de siècle Europe. Between 1896 and 1908, a German youth movement arose as a countercultural reaction to the organized social and cultural clubs that centered around German folk music. Known as Der Wandervogel ("migratory bird"), the movement opposed the formality of traditional German clubs, instead emphasizing amateur music and singing, creative dress, and communal outings involving hiking and camping.[5] Inspired by the works of Friedrich Nietzsche, Goethe, Hermann Hesse, and Eduard Baltzer, Wandervogel attracted thousands of young Germans who rejected the rapid trend toward urbanization and yearned for the pagan, back-to-nature spiritual life of their ancestors.[6] During the first several decades of the twentieth century, Germans settled around the United States, bringing the values of the Wandervogel with them. Some opened the first health food stores, and many moved to Southern California where they could practice an alternative lifestyle in a warm climate. Over time, young Americans adopted the beliefs and practices of the new immigrants. One group, called the "Nature Boys", took to the California desert and raised organic food, espousing a back-to-nature lifestyle like the Wandervogel.[7] Songwriter Eden Ahbez wrote a hit song called Nature Boy inspired by Robert Bootzin (Gypsy Boots), who helped popularize health-consciousness, yoga, and organic food in the United States.

 

Like Wandervogel, the hippie movement in the United States began as a youth movement. Composed mostly of white teenagers and young adults between the ages of 15 and 25 years old,[8][9] hippies inherited a tradition of cultural dissent from bohemians and beatniks of the Beat Generation in the late 1950s.[9] Beats like Allen Ginsberg crossed-over from the beat movement and became fixtures of the burgeoning hippie and anti-war movements. By 1965, hippies had become an established social group in the U.S., and the movement eventually expanded to other countries,[10][11] extending as far as the United Kingdom and Europe, Australia, Canada, New Zealand, Japan, Mexico, and Brazil.[12] The hippie ethos influenced The Beatles and others in the United Kingdom and other parts of Europe, and they in turn influenced their American counterparts.[13] Hippie culture spread worldwide through a fusion of rock music, folk, blues, and psychedelic rock; it also found expression in literature, the dramatic arts, fashion, and the visual arts, including film, posters advertising rock concerts, and album covers.[14] Self-described hippies had become a significant minority by 1968, representing just under 0.2% of the U.S. population[15] before declining in the mid-1970s.[10]

 

Along with the New Left and the American Civil Rights Movement, the hippie movement was one of three dissenting groups of the 1960s counterculture.[11] Hippies rejected established institutions, criticized middle class values, opposed nuclear weapons and the Vietnam War, embraced aspects of Eastern philosophy,[16] championed sexual liberation, were often vegetarian and eco-friendly, promoted the use of psychedelic drugs which they felt expanded one's consciousness, and created intentional communities or communes. They used alternative arts, street theatre, folk music, and psychedelic rock as a part of their lifestyle and as a way of expressing their feelings, their protests and their vision of the world and life. Hippies opposed political and social orthodoxy, choosing a gentle and nondoctrinaire ideology that favored peace, love and personal freedom,[17][18] expressed for example in The Beatles' song "All You Need is Love".[19] Hippies perceived the dominant culture as a corrupt, monolithic entity that exercised undue power over their lives, calling this culture "The Establishment", "Big Brother", or "The Man".[20][21][22] Noting that they were "seekers of meaning and value", scholars like Timothy Miller have described hippies as a new religious movement.[23]

 

 

From Wikipedia.

 

Disclaimer, I am not trying to convince anyone to change their views, just wanted to present a different opinion. Yes I know Pajama media may be opinionated.

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I'm not buying it. The Tea Party strikes me as authoritarian, as much as they like to claim libertarian roots.

 

Hippies are and were anti-authoritarian. The Tea Party is not.

 

It's not as if Pajamas Media is an unbiased source of agenda-free info either. GMAB.

 

you may or may not understand depending on your age and/or upbringing, but in all honesty, there are some serious truths in that article.

 

not saying its all good and grand........... just saying there are some serious and factual statements in there.

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Hippies rejected established institutions, criticized middle class values, opposed nuclear weapons and the Vietnam War, embraced aspects of Eastern philosophy,[16] championed sexual liberation, were often vegetarian and eco-friendly, promoted the use of psychedelic drugs which they felt expanded one's consciousness, and created intentional communities or communes. They used alternative arts, street theatre, folk music, and psychedelic rock as a part of their lifestyle and as a way of expressing their feelings, their protests and their vision of the world and life. Hippies opposed political and social orthodoxy, choosing a gentle and nondoctrinaire ideology that favored peace, love and personal freedom,[17][18] expressed for example in The Beatles' song "All You Need is Love".[19] Hippies perceived the dominant culture as a corrupt, monolithic entity that exercised undue power over their lives, calling this culture "The Establishment", "Big Brother", or "The Man"

 

 

Yeah, sounds just like tea partiers.

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The tea baggers I spoke with on Monday in Macomb County said the MMMA would be repealed or amended to look like the NJ law.

 

They believe that marijuana is as bad as heroin and cocaine and they don't believe any of the science that backs cannabis as medicine because they don't believe in science to begin with.

 

As bad as things are with Pres.Obama and it is because of non-partisan co-operation from the GOP who wants to fight every piece of legislation he or the DEMs want to back.

 

The GOP or teabaggers get in control things will get so much worse that they are now for us medical marijuana advocates you'll be wishing for the good ol' days of now.

 

Mr.Leyton needs to address the you-tube video put out today by the MIGOP claiming he made a back room deal that murders go. That is the type of thing that if it goes unanswered or addressed will come back to bite him.

 

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United States citizen's are capable of moral righteousness without silly things like the 14th amendment or the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Don't believe me? Just ask gay people. They understand the son's and daughter's of slaves would have reached equality without government intervention, just as they will, or not, as any non-discriminatory society should self determine. Ron Paul understands this better than anyone.

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I don't know why he didn't go with "Rich"?

 

IDK, it's like some of these characters stepped right out of central casting.

 

Palin, Angle, O'Donnell, Armey, etc. It's very strange.

 

Paul ran as a Libertarian in '88, then returned to the Republican party. No hippie values from Paul.

 

As a libertarian leftist, I agree with a few things Ron Paul says, but I don't think he represents the views of the TP.

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X 1000000

 

 

 

 

 

I'm not buying it. The Tea Party strikes me as authoritarian, as much as they like to claim libertarian roots.

 

Hippies are and were anti-authoritarian. The Tea Party is not.

 

It's not as if Pajamas Media is an unbiased source of agenda-free info either. GMAB.

 

 

i dont trust that party at all-they are the ones that want to force religion on the world by sanction, boot heels or bullet!

they have a religious agenda-to turn the world into a Theocracy ...no man can can handle that burden or run that sort of system without civil liberty and human rights violations-think Spanish Inquisition or Holy Crusades!!!!!!!!!

they want us to side with them-vote for them but we are canon fodder for their party-the prison camps for undesirables would be just a few years away if we elected them to office-no way i am not buying it!

i will be no one's tool!

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United States citizen's are capable of moral righteousness without silly things like the 14th amendment or the 1964 Civil Rights Act. Don't believe me? Just ask gay people. They understand the son's and daughter's of slaves would have reached equality without government intervention, just as they will, or not, as any non-discriminatory society should self determine. Ron Paul understands this better than anyone.

 

Yeah, those silly government interventionists. How dare they promote equality?

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